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August 02, 2011, 04:02:57 PM
#28
Title fix'd.
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August 02, 2011, 04:01:16 PM
#27
Some people say, "Don't even trust your own computer!"

Other people say, "Online wallets FTW!  What, me worry?"

It seems to me that keeping at least two copies of one's wallet.dat files, strongly-encrypted, on two separate USB drives or CDs/DVDs is the way to go for now,
maybe even renaming them and changing the file extension while they are stored away, only moving them to the Bitcoin datadir when one is using the client.

I love the simplicity of everything being in that one .dat file, but that also seems to be its biggest flaw\vulnerability.

Hopefully, Bitcoin will evolve and become more secure, or it will succumb to increasingly more scammin' bastards.



Are you spying on me Shocked?

Ima look for those camera's. Grin
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August 02, 2011, 03:35:46 PM
#26
I agree.
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August 02, 2011, 03:34:09 PM
#25
Some people say, "Don't even trust your own computer!"

Other people say, "Online wallets FTW!  What, me worry?"

It seems to me that keeping at least two copies of one's wallet.dat files, strongly-encrypted, on two separate USB drives or CDs/DVDs is the way to go for now,
maybe even renaming them and changing the file extension while they are stored away, only moving them to the Bitcoin datadir when one is using the client.

I love the simplicity of everything being in that one .dat file, but that also seems to be its biggest flaw\vulnerability.

Hopefully, Bitcoin will evolve and become more secure, or it will succumb to increasingly more scammin' bastards.

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July 31, 2011, 06:22:50 PM
#24
I could not imagine what is going through the persons head that might have lost all of their bitcoins, due to this problem.
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Only a curious passer-by / FirstBits: 13zsc1
July 31, 2011, 01:57:41 PM
#23
Online wallets are most likely the best way to get Bitcoins widely accepted!
I don't buy this one bit. IMHO it is foolish and dangerous to make such an assertion.
[...]
Linuxcoin works and works very well.[...]
Of course it does work well. But you are also a geek. Try to explain that to a none-geek:
"LinuxCoin? What's an .iso file? how do i burn it to cd? how do i create a bootable usb stick? WTF, i have to reboot my pc nao? Why the fuck do i have to download several hundred MB for that stupid Blockchain? What is that anyway? How do i get coins now? What's mining? What's an exchange? How do i use it? What, i need dwolla or LibertyReverse first?"
If you can quickly guide none-geek users through this, so that they actually understand it, let me know how.
Average Joe will just say "fuck this, to complicated. I'll just sign up at paypal that's what they use on ebay anyway". As long as Bitcoins aren't as easy to use like paypal, it will be stigmatized as hacker and geek currency.
Online wallets/Paypal like platforms can help to get Bitcoins widely acceptable and easily useable for average internet users and also for smartphone users.
Such a platform however, as already said, must be run by a trustworhty professional organization that is liable and has a real office and not by some random anonyous guy. Your real bank account is not much different to that.
I'm not saying that you, as a geek, should use it. I'm just saying a trustworthy online wallet service can help gaining acceptance ammong the average internet users.

Yes, LinuxCoin is too geek, but you don't need using LinuxCoin to maintain your wallet in your HD.

I believe that banks (real ones) or a big Internet company like PayPal would be interested in it if the number of people using Bitcoin grows.

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July 31, 2011, 01:39:45 PM
#22
Don't use online wallets, ever.
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July 31, 2011, 01:07:31 PM
#21
Online wallets are most likely the best way to get Bitcoins widely accepted!
I don't buy this one bit. IMHO it is foolish and dangerous to make such an assertion.
[...]
Linuxcoin works and works very well.[...]
Of course it does work well. But you are also a geek. Try to explain that to a none-geek:
"LinuxCoin? What's an .iso file? how do i burn it to cd? how do i create a bootable usb stick? WTF, i have to reboot my pc nao? Why the fuck do i have to download several hundred MB for that stupid Blockchain? What is that anyway? How do i get coins now? What's mining? What's an exchange? How do i use it? What, i need dwolla or LibertyReverse first?"
If you can quickly guide none-geek users through this, so that they actually understand it, let me know how.
Average Joe will just say "fuck this, to complicated. I'll just sign up at paypal that's what they use on ebay anyway". As long as Bitcoins aren't as easy to use like paypal, it will be stigmatized as hacker and geek currency.
Online wallets/Paypal like platforms can help to get Bitcoins widely acceptable and easily useable for average internet users and also for smartphone users.
Such a platform however, as already said, must be run by a trustworhty professional organization that is liable and has a real office and not by some random anonyous guy. Your real bank account is not much different to that.
I'm not saying that you, as a geek, should use it. I'm just saying a trustworthy online wallet service can help gaining acceptance ammong the average internet users.
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July 30, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
#20
Online wallet is a joke....lol just make a whole bunch of trahill, mtgox accounts....lol
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July 30, 2011, 07:00:09 PM
#19
Online wallets. Lol.
Online wallets are most likely the best way to get Bitcoins widely accepted!

I don't buy this one bit. IMHO it is foolish and dangerous to make such an assertion.

If one is not smart enough to have their wallet securely on two usb sticks (one is backup) one should *run* away from bitcoin.

Linuxcoin works and works very well. If you really do not have the time or expertise to set one up PM me and I will either walk you through it or sell you one already set up (minus the actual wallet file which will be generated the first time you use it, or if you like with an existing wallet with mature coins that you can use right away with no fees, HINT use the first option).

I fully agree with "Online wallets. Lol." Only I would add "!!!"
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July 30, 2011, 06:57:27 PM
#18
Online wallets. Lol.
Online wallets are most likely the best way to get Bitcoins widely accepted!

However, the operator/s of an online wallet service must be trustworthy. Such a service must be transparent, it should have a real address with an office and it shouldn't be run from the basement of some anonymous guy(who spams the forum with a link to his site in nearly every post he makes) house with a Gmail account as only contact option.

"Send me your wallet.dat to [email protected] . I won't steal it, i promise!" ....sounds very trustworthy.

Sry OP, maybe you have good intentions...but your site and comments don't look like it.

If you actually look at my other posts in this forum you'll notice me participating. Also, you clearly don't understand the service we can't do anything with your wallet as then people would just produce a claim around it - it isn't just give "me " your wallet. Clearly, there has to be some trust I know that but to accuse some if scam with no evidence shows you aren't to credible with anything your saying. Sorry to say it .
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July 30, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
#17
Online wallets. Lol.
Online wallets are most likely the best way to get Bitcoins widely accepted!

However, the operator/s of an online wallet service must be trustworthy. Such a service must be transparent, it should have a real address with an office and it shouldn't be run from the basement of some anonymous guy's(who spams the forum with a link to his site in nearly every post he makes) house with a Gmail account as only contact option.

"Send me your wallet.dat to [email protected] . I won't steal it, i promise!" ....sounds very trustworthy.

Sry OP, maybe you have good intentions...but your site and comments don't look like it.
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July 30, 2011, 05:11:03 PM
#16
-Suggesting isn't spamming
-plenty of .info sites around here so there all scams? please provide evidence we've scammed anyone?

And I hope you aren't as stupid as you sound Smiley

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July 30, 2011, 04:48:14 PM
#15
anything else?
- stop spamming
- *.info domains are usually used for malware, trojans, spam and scam
- i hope you are a troll  Grin
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July 30, 2011, 04:39:47 PM
#14
Online wallets. Lol.

I don't get it. Care to explain?
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July 30, 2011, 04:18:06 PM
#13
The other option is that we provide 100% secure off-line vault for your wallet. All you need to do is send us a copy of your wallet.dat on a USB stick into the mail and we will lock it into our secure vault.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Glad to you think its funny!  ??  

Actually it's a scam.

Provide evidence please of this "scam" ....I didn't think so..
Zem
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July 30, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
#12
Online wallets. Lol.
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July 30, 2011, 04:17:12 PM
#11
The other option is that we provide 100% secure off-line vault for your wallet. All you need to do is send us a copy of your wallet.dat on a USB stick into the mail and we will lock it into our secure vault.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Glad to you think its funny!  ?? 

Actually it's a scam.
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July 30, 2011, 04:14:46 PM
#10
Why should anyone trust your site?
- Who are you? You have no name, phone number or contact address on your site
- your "Contact Us" form redirects to some third party site
- your official email address for the site is a @Gmail.com address

Reading your older postings in this forum, that you made with varying nicknames (Haydenwaves/bitprotection), i can only label you as scammer or troll.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19506.0

 "Who are you? You have no name, phone number or contact address on your site"  Ok  will do and this will change your mind how ?

 "your "Contact Us" form redirects to some third party site"  Ok? we use jotform ? and your point ?

 "your official email address for the site is a @Gmail.com address " Ok ? we'll make a [email protected] ?

anything else?

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July 30, 2011, 04:13:11 PM
#9
The other option is that we provide 100% secure off-line vault for your wallet. All you need to do is send us a copy of your wallet.dat on a USB stick into the mail and we will lock it into our secure vault.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Glad to you think its funny!  ?? 
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