don't use X11,it can be mined by Scrypt ASIC or fpga - page 5.

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Quote from: mazuma on May 13, 2014, 04:31:40 AM

This guy is tripping. Even if FPGA's are out there, ONLY VERY VERY FEW have them. I remember when maxcoin was released, holy cow, there were some MONSTER GPU Farms on that 1gh, and keccak was pretty much GPU, since asics wasnt really out in the mainstream. There are LOTS of GPU farms that can push over a million on X11, so like i said earlier, this guy must tripping.

X11 ASIC's aren't going to come out until X11 coins are profitable enough like Scrypt. An FPGA is probably doable, but haven't heard any solid and concrete evidence of one yet.

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This guy is tripping. Even if FPGA's are out there, ONLY VERY VERY FEW have them. I remember when maxcoin was released, holy cow, there were some MONSTER GPU Farms on that 1gh, and keccak was pretty much GPU, since asics wasnt really out in the mainstream. There are LOTS of GPU farms that can push over a million on X11, so like i said earlier, this guy must tripping.

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Quote from: pomelo on May 12, 2014, 06:39:21 PM

Quote from: AlexGR on May 12, 2014, 06:31:11 PM

Quote from: pomelo on May 12, 2014, 06:08:26 PM

Quote from: matauc12 on April 27, 2014, 10:04:32 PM

Lol, anyone who believes this is close to brain dead. Cost involved Into designing is too significant to even THINK about building an fpga/asic for an algo at such infancy.

Also, I find it funny how in recent months, starting any post with "I am china" seems to invoke confidence when trying to spread FUD about a subject.

I heard similar talk when the first pics from gridseeds emerged. They were supposed to be "fake" "vaporware" "scam".. you name it.

Read carefully what he writes... that scrypt ASICs can do X11... this is impossible.

FPGAs, sure... they can do any GPU coin. But they are not ASIC-level efficiency or speed.

I wasn't trying to make a 1:1 comparison. Just saying that people called Scrypt asics a scam when they were reality. Now some people say _similar_ stuff about fpga for X11.

He doesn't say that an ASIC has been built for X11... he says that the asics that have been built for scrypt can do X11, which is impossible, as asics are custom designed to perform specific functions.

This misunderstanding probably originated from the website of an asic manufacturer where he accidentally placed darkcoin on his list of scrypt coins that can be mined. I had seen that link floating around - I think it was in the darkcoin thread. Of course darkcoin is not scrypt (it's x11) so the claim is bogus.

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Quote from: AlexGR on May 12, 2014, 06:31:11 PM

Quote from: pomelo on May 12, 2014, 06:08:26 PM

Quote from: matauc12 on April 27, 2014, 10:04:32 PM

Lol, anyone who believes this is close to brain dead. Cost involved Into designing is too significant to even THINK about building an fpga/asic for an algo at such infancy.

Also, I find it funny how in recent months, starting any post with "I am china" seems to invoke confidence when trying to spread FUD about a subject.

I heard similar talk when the first pics from gridseeds emerged. They were supposed to be "fake" "vaporware" "scam".. you name it.

Read carefully what he writes... that scrypt ASICs can do X11... this is impossible.

FPGAs, sure... they can do any GPU coin. But they are not ASIC-level efficiency or speed.

I wasn't trying to make a 1:1 comparison. Just saying that people called Scrypt asics a scam when they were reality. Now some people say _similar_ stuff about fpga for X11.

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Quote from: pomelo on May 12, 2014, 06:08:26 PM

Quote from: matauc12 on April 27, 2014, 10:04:32 PM

Lol, anyone who believes this is close to brain dead. Cost involved Into designing is too significant to even THINK about building an fpga/asic for an algo at such infancy.

Also, I find it funny how in recent months, starting any post with "I am china" seems to invoke confidence when trying to spread FUD about a subject.

I heard similar talk when the first pics from gridseeds emerged. They were supposed to be "fake" "vaporware" "scam".. you name it.

Read carefully what he writes... that scrypt ASICs can do X11... this is impossible.

FPGAs, sure... they can do any GPU coin. But they are not ASIC-level efficiency or speed.

pomelo

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Quote from: matauc12 on April 27, 2014, 10:04:32 PM

Lol, anyone who believes this is close to brain dead. Cost involved Into designing is too significant to even THINK about building an fpga/asic for an algo at such infancy.

Also, I find it funny how in recent months, starting any post with "I am china" seems to invoke confidence when trying to spread FUD about a subject.

I heard similar talk when the first pics from gridseeds emerged. They were supposed to be "fake" "vaporware" "scam".. you name it.

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Quote from: JiePanXia on May 02, 2014, 01:28:04 PM

lmao.
op do u know 3MH with X11 nearly equals 1MH Scrypt?

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Quote from: cozk on April 28, 2014, 05:55:27 PM

Quote from: juve4v on April 28, 2014, 06:59:46 AM

Care to show some kind of proof supporting your statement?

The fact that its almost not profitable to mine coins like DRK with GPU should sound an alarm.

it's not profitable, because some miners think that when price skyrocket they should start mining a coin, but this is not bitcoin, where difficulty kicks in after hundreds of blocks, it kicks in after just a few blocks and all keep mining darkcoin at a loss!

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Quote from: simhbary on April 27, 2014, 04:35:47 AM

i am a china miner, i can tell all of you,many peopel use fgpa mining X11 coin in china.
that's why gpu miner can't get a good profitability for mining X11 coin.
the X11 COIN can't prevent fpga or asic.
X11 has been cracked by fpga at this time.
so it's not fair for gpu miner.
we must ban x11 coin

new update:
x11 coin can be mined by Scrypt ASIC at this time.that's same to maxcoin.maxcon can be mined by AntMiner

many fpge or Scrypt ASIC are mining x11,not gpu miner,for example DARKCOIN,28G NET HASH are very hard to believe

The main problem about this is that you're a dumb scammer, trying to cheat hamsters. x11 was initially made asicproof, RTFM on what x11 is and why it is called so.

>>>we must ban x11

Do it, comrade! Or better ban yourself outa here.

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Quote from: dspair on May 02, 2014, 02:44:03 PM

I believe that, seeing how bad profitability of X11 coins is.

You believe what exactly? That scrypt asics do x11 coins? This is impossible. ASICs are designed to do something specific. Scrypt asics are designed to do scrypt, not x11.

As for FPGAs, they will do most CPU and all GPU mineable coins. Is this some kind of news? No.

As for profitability, try with electricity prices of 0.3-0.4$ / kwh, check again (with wattage /2 for x11 compared to scrypt) and report back.

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Profitability of X11 coins is pretty bad, so can I believe that.

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lmao.
op do u know 3MH with X11 nearly equals 1MH Scrypt?

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Quote from: simhbary on April 27, 2014, 04:35:47 AM

new update:
x11 coin can be mined by Scrypt ASIC at this time.that's same to maxcoin.maxcon can be mined by AntMiner

An scrypt asic will do scrypt, not X11.

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Quote from: cozk on April 28, 2014, 05:55:27 PM

Quote from: juve4v on April 28, 2014, 06:59:46 AM

Quote from: simhbary on April 27, 2014, 04:35:47 AM

i am a china miner, i can tell all of you,many peopel use fgpa mining X11 coin in china.
that's why gpu miner can't get a good profitability for mining X11 coin.
the X11 COIN can't prevent fpga or asic.
X11 has been cracked by fpga at this time.
so it's not fair for gpu miner.
we must ban x11 coin

Care to show some kind of proof supporting your statement?

The fact that its almost not profitable to mine coins like DRK with GPU should sound an alarm.

It depends on the price of electricity. For many european countries DRK is the most profitable coin (or, the least loss-incuring coin) due to high electric prices.

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So which algo do you guys recommand for GPU-miners?Or gpu-miners should dump their coins before asics or fpga coming out instead of keeping the coins.

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Quote from: hero18688 on May 02, 2014, 05:59:56 AM

Quote from: SpeedDemon13 on April 28, 2014, 05:01:32 AM

CPU->GPU->FPGA->ASIC

The hardware order that a coin can be mined eventually.

A FPGA is better than an ASIC in regards that it can be reprogrammed. An ASIC is programmed to do just one thing only. ASIC's generally are quicker and I wouldn't doubt someone having a working FPGA programmed for X11.

Where can buy FPGA miner? I am interested.

You won't be able to buy even if such fpga exists until they mine the shit out of x11 .

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Quote from: SpeedDemon13 on April 28, 2014, 05:01:32 AM

CPU->GPU->FPGA->ASIC

The hardware order that a coin can be mined eventually.

A FPGA is better than an ASIC in regards that it can be reprogrammed. An ASIC is programmed to do just one thing only. ASIC's generally are quicker and I wouldn't doubt someone having a working FPGA programmed for X11.

Where can buy FPGA miner? I am interested.

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How about groestl and skein? X11 contains them.

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Quote from: juve4v on April 28, 2014, 06:59:46 AM

Quote from: simhbary on April 27, 2014, 04:35:47 AM

i am a china miner, i can tell all of you,many peopel use fgpa mining X11 coin in china.
that's why gpu miner can't get a good profitability for mining X11 coin.
the X11 COIN can't prevent fpga or asic.
X11 has been cracked by fpga at this time.
so it's not fair for gpu miner.
we must ban x11 coin

Care to show some kind of proof supporting your statement?

sometimes mine x11 coin has very low profitability by gpu miner,but it also has very high net hash

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Quote from: juve4v on April 28, 2014, 06:59:46 AM

Quote from: simhbary on April 27, 2014, 04:35:47 AM

i am a china miner, i can tell all of you,many peopel use fgpa mining X11 coin in china.
that's why gpu miner can't get a good profitability for mining X11 coin.
the X11 COIN can't prevent fpga or asic.
X11 has been cracked by fpga at this time.
so it's not fair for gpu miner.
we must ban x11 coin

Care to show some kind of proof supporting your statement?

The fact that its almost not profitable to mine coins like DRK with GPU should sound an alarm.

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