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Topic: Don't you think that merit system is like avoiding new comer in Bitcointalk? - page 2. (Read 458 times)

newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
Maybe not like that my opinion

The presence of Merit may want to show the quality of Bitcointalk forums, so not much spam etc ,,
In this forum can share knowledge and even share solutions.
staff
Activity: 3304
Merit: 4115
I'm curious, how bad was this "account farming"? Like what was it actually? I keep seeing it mentioned.

Staff members in the past of busting hundreds of accounts that were connected. For the amount of money that one can earn on a signature campaign and how easily it was to abuse the system and rank up it was likely thousands of accounts that were soley created for that reason a day.

Hopefully with the new restrictions it will calm down and we can reflect on the number of new registrations compared to what it was before.
jr. member
Activity: 238
Merit: 9
I am very worry about new merit system. This is like killer rules for newbies like us. As i know that if somebody gives merit rating only then our rank will grow. Without getting merit from someone we can't rank up from jr member. So, who will give us those merit rating? Is this rules for avoiding new comers in bitcointalk? I am truly feeling too bad.  Cry Cry

In answer to your question and looking at your own post, looks like it does not stop newcomers  Tongue

There is no reason to feel bad, you can become junior without merit, and it only takes 5 to 10 decent posts to rank member, which anyway would take a couple of month to achieve I think. Frankly, if you have not made 5 or 10 decent posts in a month you should feel bad about it.

I think that merit now is a bit "expensive" but in the future it may be granted for posts that are just a bit useful and targeted to the issue.
hero member
Activity: 1106
Merit: 638
I'm curious, how bad was this "account farming"? Like what was it actually? I keep seeing it mentioned.

Out of control, for (dare I say) years!

But mostly we've seen a crazy influx of newbies joining in 2017 as the Bitcoin price as soared and people started to give a shit. All these Newbies lead to a lot of poor quality posting. And the motivation for the new entrants and the shitty posting was participation in bounty and signature campaigns, i.e., getting tokens or bitcoin "for free". For people to participate they need to reach the Member rank or higher (generally), this system requires Newbies to prove they've made 10 posts that others believe are worthy of merit before reaching that rank and participating in the other privileges this forum offers.
member
Activity: 266
Merit: 27
I'm curious, how bad was this "account farming"? Like what was it actually? I keep seeing it mentioned.
full member
Activity: 392
Merit: 100
Its a good development to tackles the offtopic members and those only trying to increase their rank without having any knowledge about cryptocurrency which is most likely the purpose of this forum
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legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1375
Slava Ukraini!
No, newbies are still welcome here. Merit system was introduced mainly to stop Newbies from posting garbage to rank up and then participate in signature campaigns. Still, you can reach Jr. Member rank without any Merit points and you only need to get 10 Merit to reach Member rank. It'snot difficult if you will post good content.
Who gives these Merit's? By default, users starting from Member rank have some sMerit, higher ranks have more which they can send to other users. And for example, if you will get 2 Merit from someone, you will be able to send 1 sMerit. And there are 57 users called Merit sources who have huge number of sMerit to send. For better education, please read this topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350
hero member
Activity: 1106
Merit: 638
I am very worry about new merit system. This is like killer rules for newbies like us. As i know that if somebody gives merit rating only then our rank will grow. Without getting merit from someone we can't rank up from jr member. So, who will give us those merit rating? Is this rules for avoiding new comers in bitcointalk? I am truly feeling too bad.  Cry Cry

You only need 10 merit to reach Member. The Merit system has been around for just over a week, I've earned 20 merit in that time. You can surely earn 10 over a similar time period.

You need to make high quality posts. You need to introduce new information to the community. You need to join discussions in boards where higher ranking people (who have merit to spend) hang out. When you have good, new information to share with the community consider starting a thread so that more people will read and react to your post.

The merit system was not established to keep newcomers away (obviously, no one requires merit to join and stay here). The system was established to ensure that opportunities to rank up align with the contribution one has made to the community.
sr. member
Activity: 1221
Merit: 250
I am very worry about new merit system. This is like killer rules for newbies like us. As i know that if somebody gives merit rating only then our rank will grow. Without getting merit from someone we can't rank up from jr member. So, who will give us those merit rating? Is this rules for avoiding new comers in bitcointalk? I am truly feeling too bad.  Cry Cry

In my opinion it is mostly against spam and account farming. Merit system helps to grow the users who are helpful to the whole community and blocking shitposters. Community gives merit points to each other, we give merit points to each other, so there is no manipulation in the forum administration activities and in this idea.
hero member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 534
First of all, welcome on board. The first thing you should do is to acquire knowledge and understand how the things work. Forum administration want to boost quality content and hence merit system is introduced.

By the time you will learn and explore the crypto industry, you will share your knowledge/opinion/suggestion with other members. You will get merits according to your contribution so I appreciate the merit system but I am expecting much awareness about the same.

P.S - You don't need any merit points to jump at Jr Member rank so don't worry it.
mk4
legendary
Activity: 2870
Merit: 3873
Paldo.io 🤖
How is the merit system for avoiding new comers? More like for avoiding spammers, shitposters, and account farmers. People used to rank up really quickly even with little to no knowledge. Now you actually have to post useful and good stuff to be awarded with merits; and I really don't see the problem with that. To be honest earning merits isn't even as hard as I thought it would be. You'd only need to be worried if none of your replies are given merits by people(because obviously, your posts might not be good). It's only survival of the fittest. If you have this problem, STUDY.

Also, you don't need to have merits for Jr member. You only need merits to get Member and above.
jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 1
I am very worry about new merit system. This is like killer rules for newbies like us. As i know that if somebody gives merit rating only then our rank will grow. Without getting merit from someone we can't rank up from jr member. So, who will give us those merit rating? Is this rules for avoiding new comers in bitcointalk? I am truly feeling too bad.  Cry Cry
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