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legendary
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Making money since I was in the womb! @emc2whale
March 10, 2014, 12:30:54 AM
#33
I've been saying Dorian is Satoshi the whole time.

Great write up.

I'm about 50/50 on it now, I just don't really have enough facts.

If you had facts then there would be no decision to be made.

Its either him or not. This post is in the wrong section. It should be posted in speculation.  LOL  Grin

Or off-topic until there's any actual proof.

How about both! Smiley

Its him though. He's a genius and it was all an act.
hero member
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Ching-Chang;Ding-Dong
March 10, 2014, 12:29:11 AM
#32
I've been saying Dorian is Satoshi the whole time.

Great write up.

I'm about 50/50 on it now, I just don't really have enough facts.

If you had facts then there would be no decision to be made.

Its either him or not. This post is in the wrong section. It should be posted in speculation.  LOL  Grin

Or off-topic until there's any actual proof.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Making money since I was in the womb! @emc2whale
March 10, 2014, 12:25:31 AM
#31
I've been saying Dorian is Satoshi the whole time.

Great write up.

I'm about 50/50 on it now, I just don't really have enough facts.

If you had facts then there would be no decision to be made.

Its either him or not. This post is in the wrong section. It should be posted in speculation.  LOL  Grin
hero member
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Ching-Chang;Ding-Dong
March 10, 2014, 12:10:25 AM
#30
I've been saying Dorian is Satoshi the whole time.

Great write up.

I'm about 50/50 on it now, I just don't really have enough facts.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Making money since I was in the womb! @emc2whale
March 10, 2014, 12:09:20 AM
#29
I've been saying Dorian is Satoshi the whole time.

Great write up.
legendary
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Reverse engineer from time to time
March 09, 2014, 11:47:34 PM
#28
I've read the blog where a crepe shop claims that Dorian is someone who used Bitcoin in 2011 at their shop.  I was suspicious at first, but it looks as though they at least have a confirmed Bitcoin transaction from around the time for approximately the amount stated.  It's just one piece, but it is interesting.  I know that the Bitcoins in the transaction might not trace to a known Satoshi address, but is it at all possible that he mined some along the way in various addresses?  I'm seriously asking.  Couldn't he have mined some before 2011 without it being clear to everyone it was him?  I can tell by how smart the people are on this forum that someone will surely be able to tell me.

Pancakes for Satoshi?
It's also possible he purchased the coins at an exchange. This might mean he revealed his identity through his bank(no no, satoshi is too smart for that), or perhaps he used a different method to obtain coins from an exchange/person.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
March 09, 2014, 11:30:14 PM
#27
I've read the blog where a crepe shop claims that Dorian is someone who used Bitcoin in 2011 at their shop.  I was suspicious at first, but it looks as though they at least have a confirmed Bitcoin transaction from around the time for approximately the amount stated.  It's just one piece, but it is interesting.  I know that the Bitcoins in the transaction might not trace to a known Satoshi address, but is it at all possible that he mined some along the way in various addresses?  I'm seriously asking.  Couldn't he have mined some before 2011 without it being clear to everyone it was him?  I can tell by how smart the people are on this forum that someone will surely be able to tell me.

Pancakes for Satoshi?
sr. member
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Decentralized Ascending Auctions on Blockchain
March 09, 2014, 10:27:46 PM
#26
Snowden stands with the great scion of democracy and civil rights known as russia! Surely you cannot doubt or cease to praise the man who had the balls to run to such an enlightened society and government who has nothing but respect for transparency and openness!

Such justice and righteousness in standing behind russia who is interfering to annex a part of a country currently undergoing a political change to free itself from russia's BENEVOLENT yoke of natural gas and.....


......dumb motherfuckers.

You don't travel much do you?
hero member
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March 09, 2014, 08:51:37 PM
#25
Interesting theory...

However,  Conventional wisdom would certainly say that the
Last thing on earth the global elite would ever want
to do, is start the cryptocurrency revolution and
challenge their own control over the issuance of money.
This would be death to the banksters that rule the US
Government.  But,it could have been something that slipped
Away from them.

However, if it turns out the NSA is behind Bitcoin,
I think it is better to have a public blockchain
if it means a return to honest money and the end
of federal reserve , fractional reserve, inflation and other
shenanigans.

And I think we don't even have to worry about that
because smart people are already working on
Anonymity features.

Btw the only way people would believe it, is
If the nsa signed a satoshi msg



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"However,  Conventional wisdom would certainly say that the
Last thing on earth the global elite would ever want
to do, is start the cryptocurrency revolution and
challenge their own control over the issuance of money."


True, unless they knew they already had complete, unshakeable control
over the situation.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
March 09, 2014, 05:53:37 PM
#24
The title of this thread reminds me of The KGB, the Computer, and Me.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
March 09, 2014, 03:07:22 PM
#23
Snowden stands with the great scion of democracy and civil rights known as russia! Surely you cannot doubt or cease to praise the man who had the balls to run to such an enlightened society and government who has nothing but respect for transparency and openness!

Such justice and righteousness in standing behind russia who is interfering to annex a part of a country currently undergoing a political change to free itself from russia's BENEVOLENT yoke of natural gas and.....


......dumb motherfuckers.
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 09, 2014, 02:40:57 PM
#22
If the NSA was behind bitcoin, then Snowden could have leaked that.

Give it time.  There is much that hasn't been revealed. 
full member
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March 09, 2014, 09:48:49 AM
#21
If the NSA was behind bitcoin, then Snowden could have leaked that.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
March 09, 2014, 09:14:04 AM
#20
Alt coins are a good thing, me thinks, to help
Create a more even wealth distribution...

Like someone said, wealth is always going to get
Concentrated, might as well be an early adopter.

NSA or not, crypto revolution is here to stay and is a good thing
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 09, 2014, 01:43:11 AM
#19
Regardless of who is correct about theories. You should definitely read Spaceship Earth by Bucky Fuller. It's a mind blower, for sure.


I'll check it out.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
March 09, 2014, 01:29:18 AM
#18
Interesting theory...

However,  Conventional wisdom would certainly say that the
Last thing on earth the global elite would ever want
to do, is start the cryptocurrency revolution and
challenge their own control over the issuance of money.
This would be death to the banksters that rule the US
Government.  But,it could have been something that slipped
Away from them.

However, if it turns out the NSA is behind Bitcoin,
I think it is better to have a public blockchain
if it means a return to honest money and the end
of federal reserve , fractional reserve, inflation and other
shenanigans.

And I think we don't even have to worry about that
because smart people are already working on
Anonymity features.

Btw the only way people would believe it, is
If the nsa signed a satoshi msg


I think you broke the 7-5-3-1 free-style poem format by including that last line, otherwise nice poem.

That isn't free-style poem format, thats NSA code format. Tongue
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 251
March 09, 2014, 01:11:17 AM
#17
Regardless of who is correct about theories. You should definitely read Spaceship Earth by Bucky Fuller. It's a mind blower, for sure.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 251
March 09, 2014, 01:09:24 AM
#16
here is what I posted as a theory of conversation or thought.
BTW, I liked your post a lot. You think for yourself, at least, I can tell.



Bankers to NSA:  Okay, NSA, you can have some funding. We'll give you x number of dollars and we need to build a bulletproof cryptographic key system to keep all our military communications secret.

NSA to Bankers: Great, I believe we can work together. You'll pay us how much to do this?

Bankers to NSA: We'll pay you 500 Million dollars and each of your workers get's $250,000 per year.

NSA to Bankers: Sure, we'll agree to that.

NSA to NSA (Inside the Agency) : Can you believe this bullshit? We only get paid $250,000 per year and these guys create money out of thin air to loan back to us, AND we have to pay TAXES ON THAT!!!

NSA to NSA (Inside the Agency) : FUCK THAT!, let's build our own currency, and see how they like it!

Now, of course this conversation is hypothetical, but can anyone imagine that some computer geeks working for the NSA are going to actually believe in what the Bankers are doing to the world, knowing full well, they can build a better system, and replace them, and create their own funding mechanism at the same time?

It never had to be the NSA, all it took were a couple well intentioned geeks, with another agenda completely. A prankster or two, working inside, to topple the status quo, once and for all.
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 09, 2014, 01:02:30 AM
#15
almost correct. But slightly off mark.
My thoughts.

from - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bucky-fuller-spaceship-earth-the-nsa-and-bitcoin-240095

In Spaceship Earth, Bucky lays out the grand scheme of change.
The Old World Order consisted of Kings and bloodlines who ruled the Earth.
These bloodlines built large ships to travel across the ocean and bring back goods and products, including foods, oils, cloth, and jewelry and gold and silver.
The Kings built their empires by taking from other lands and importing wealth via large maritime ships. These were the first Pirate Ships.
The Pirate ships had to be led by Captains versed in sailing the high seas, and thus the Captains and their crew were so depended upon by the kings and land rulers that they became subservient to them in the long run. Without the Merchant vessels being led by able Captains the Kings could not gain more ground, and build more wealth. The Captains of the ships, the Pirates became the new wealthy. They ruled the Maritime, and brought it on shore with the advent of Maritime Law, combined with Merchant Law and Equity. These were the new wealthy elite, the Pirates, otherwise known as the Freemasons.
The Freemasons built a solid, powerful empire on land, created all forms of governments, and created the most powerful, devastating force the world has ever had to reckon and deal with, the Modern Fiat Federal Reserve Central Banking System, which now loans it's imaginary credit to all nations, takes land, and wealth in the form of interest on those loans and preys on all people, behind the scenes, and in almost complete stealth. They are now the true rulers of man.
Buckminster Fuller wrote about how there is a new elite evolving on the planet since the advent of computers. Now, in this modern day and age, it's different than it was70 years ago. Today, the governments of the world rely on computers for all forms of communication, economics, banking, and most importantly, WAR!  But the elite money makers rely on one new group of people for their survival, the new technocracy, the technological crowd, the geeks, the programmers, the nerds, and the underdogs of society, to many. These "geeks and nerds" have no desire for war, they only want to hack, crack codes, and play games. But they are NEEDED by the banking elite to enforce the agenda of the New World Order.
So, while the bankers are busy funding government, funding war, funding surveillance and code breaking, the new technological crowd decided they would change the game, once and for all, COMPLETELY, and finally OVERTHROW the Old World Banking crowd, and institute their new form of democratic technology (technocracy) at it's finest,

and we now have "Bitcoin".

Goodbye Bankers, Goodbye!

 (in other words, .... They did it for their OWN ends, not to create a currency that could be tracked, but to create one they could use themselves, that COULD NOT be tracked.)




Ahhh...someone is ready for my thoughts.  I agree with you.  I don't know the end or claim to.  I can't possibly think along the lines of these people.  I can only hope to put things together afterwards through critical thinking and project forward based on my beliefs.  I have several theories on how they will/can use Bitcoin to their advantage.  We have to remember...even they must react.  They plan actions to solicit reactions.  They can't be assured of the reactions but they can react to them.  

I definitely agree that they need the tech crowd.  Why not create Bitcoin to insure those are the people that survive?  Aren't the tech people primarily getting in?  Or at least people that are smart enough to understand it?  Why not create a currency that we can fight over?  While they have commodities.  
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 251
March 09, 2014, 12:54:02 AM
#14
almost correct. But slightly off mark.
My thoughts.

from - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bucky-fuller-spaceship-earth-the-nsa-and-bitcoin-240095

In Spaceship Earth, Bucky lays out the grand scheme of change.
The Old World Order consisted of Kings and bloodlines who ruled the Earth.
These bloodlines built large ships to travel across the ocean and bring back goods and products, including foods, oils, cloth, and jewelry and gold and silver.
The Kings built their empires by taking from other lands and importing wealth via large maritime ships. These were the first Pirate Ships.
The Pirate ships had to be led by Captains versed in sailing the high seas, and thus the Captains and their crew were so depended upon by the kings and land rulers that they became subservient to them in the long run. Without the Merchant vessels being led by able Captains the Kings could not gain more ground, and build more wealth. The Captains of the ships, the Pirates became the new wealthy. They ruled the Maritime, and brought it on shore with the advent of Maritime Law, combined with Merchant Law and Equity. These were the new wealthy elite, the Pirates, otherwise known as the Freemasons.
The Freemasons built a solid, powerful empire on land, created all forms of governments, and created the most powerful, devastating force the world has ever had to reckon and deal with, the Modern Fiat Federal Reserve Central Banking System, which now loans it's imaginary credit to all nations, takes land, and wealth in the form of interest on those loans and preys on all people, behind the scenes, and in almost complete stealth. They are now the true rulers of man.
Buckminster Fuller wrote about how there is a new elite evolving on the planet since the advent of computers. Now, in this modern day and age, it's different than it was70 years ago. Today, the governments of the world rely on computers for all forms of communication, economics, banking, and most importantly, WAR!  But the elite money makers rely on one new group of people for their survival, the new technocracy, the technological crowd, the geeks, the programmers, the nerds, and the underdogs of society, to many. These "geeks and nerds" have no desire for war, they only want to hack, crack codes, and play games. But they are NEEDED by the banking elite to enforce the agenda of the New World Order.
So, while the bankers are busy funding government, funding war, funding surveillance and code breaking, the new technological crowd decided they would change the game, once and for all, COMPLETELY, and finally OVERTHROW the Old World Banking crowd, and institute their new form of democratic technology (technocracy) at it's finest,

and we now have "Bitcoin".

Goodbye Bankers, Goodbye!

 (in other words, .... They did it for their OWN ends, not to create a currency that could be tracked, but to create one they could use themselves, that COULD NOT be tracked.)


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