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newbie
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October 28, 2019, 10:24:16 AM
#53

Maybe someone solved a puzzle.


Yeah. The puzzle of life. I want to solve a puzzle of 3000BTC to.
sr. member
Activity: 443
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October 28, 2019, 09:59:58 AM
#52
-snip-
2**169 > 2**170 Bit are all within this range
0x2000000000000000000000000000000000000000000:0x3ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
-snip-

How do you know that all these released addresses were with the private keys in 170bit range?
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 1
October 28, 2019, 09:17:44 AM
#51
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
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17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

Maybe someone solved a puzzle.

Re: Bitcoin treasure https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-treasure-5146858
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full member
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October 27, 2019, 11:28:47 AM
#50
well well, i dunno what behind the owner minds.
he do a mass sell right now, after 8 years, but on 2017 he absolutely see the prices is 2x higher than nowadays prices, and he just hodl it.
a simple reason :
probably he think the price will go higher ,but now, he seems tired for hodl and take action to sell. although , transactions are not carried out simultaneously.
but well , its just based from my opinion.

Agreed to some extent that owner of these Bitoins may have tired of holding these BTC and sold it off but I think we all are positive about BTC price movement and we are expecting it to reach at new heights sooner of later, hodler might be in the same state, if he had hold it for 8 years then what is the problem in holding it for next 2-3 years. If he is worried about price decrease he could have sold half the amount. Yes if he has found some better investment option than BTC, it seems logical.
hero member
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October 27, 2019, 10:11:10 AM
#49
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?
Surprisingly this news can be taken as a double edged sword having both benefits and disadvantages. Maybe he was an early adopter who just doesn't trust Cryptocurrencies anymore and is ready to flush all of this in market to create a huge slump or maybe someone who just transferred some money due to security concerns with his previous address maybe he decided to transfer to Segwit or something. I think overthinking upon this issue really won't help we can't do anything other than just waiting.
sr. member
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October 27, 2019, 10:02:10 AM
#48
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

Wow it's a huge of money especially if the owner of this addresses is/are not aware of it and they just remembered it recently.

The owners of that addresses are very lucky that they bought Bitcoin last 2011 and let it sit for 8 years. But if I were them 2017 is the best time for it to cash out as it was the peak of the market.
Probably they missed selling their bitcoin in 2017 ATH and now they don't want to miss another chance at least selling at $10K is not a bad bargain considering the fact that those bitcoin were bought in 2011 at the early stages of bitcoin ie early adopter.
sr. member
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October 27, 2019, 09:23:35 AM
#47
It is possible that these wallets were once owned by investors in 2013, I think the reason for this is that the lost private key has been recovered.
Considering the opportunities they were supposed to sell in 2017. That didn't sell out because they were looking for a copy of the missing Private Key.
sr. member
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October 27, 2019, 08:02:39 AM
#46
One more version: the owner of these wallets probably was in prison since 2012-2013 till now. And that prison actually made a good thing for him - he was not able to sell his crypto assets. And now, after 5-7 years in prison, he is free and rich  Grin

Lol...this could be more of blessing in disguise. Turning the negative to positive.

Well, I strongly believe that something would have made the hodler not to have access to the passwords because he or she would have been tempted to sell off before this time.
sr. member
Activity: 443
Merit: 350
October 27, 2019, 07:39:14 AM
#45
One more version: the owner of these wallets probably was in prison since 2012-2013 till now. And that prison actually made a good thing for him - he was not able to sell his crypto assets. And now, after 5-7 years in prison, he is free and rich  Grin
jr. member
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October 27, 2019, 06:10:36 AM
#44
And if we assume that everything is much simpler?
If someone (or several people) found a way to open old addresses and now "pours" from old addresses to new ones.
In order not to cause panic and suspicion, it simply “pours” these funds to their new addresses without cashing out?
And when the "right" time comes, then will cash out OR will cash out gradually.
hero member
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October 27, 2019, 05:48:50 AM
#43
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
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1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

Wow it's a huge of money especially if the owner of this addresses is/are not aware of it and they just remembered it recently.

The owners of that addresses are very lucky that they bought Bitcoin last 2011 and let it sit for 8 years. But if I were them 2017 is the best time for it to cash out as it was the peak of the market.
sr. member
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October 27, 2019, 03:50:45 AM
#42
Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

What are your opinions?

There are so many points to actually analyse this from, the Bitcoins were moved out to another wallet probably for sales or to a more secured wallet for safer keeping. If the owners bought those Bitcoins 8years back, then they might actually trying to take some profits. If it was owned by an organisation orca group of persons, maybe their agreed holding period has reached and they are sharing it off.
sr. member
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October 27, 2019, 03:41:28 AM
#41
It's about 8 years already passed away now the owner remembered that he had some BTC around 3000. He wants to exchange them now?

Oh no, did the year died? LOL!
Anyway, OP mentioned that the funds were transferred and didn't sell.

OP just made a mistake, it's not a big deal


It's about 8 years already passed away now the owner remembered that he had some BTC around 3000. He wants to exchange them now?

Moreover, that person or group surely a long term holder, imagine that he missed or didn't sold his bitcoin when it's on ATH last 2017. That profit he could get tho. Or he really have a lot of bitcoin keeping on different wallets. Envy those guys, erffff.
For any reason, missing the highest ATH last 2017 was planned I think. A group or a certain person was really planning for maximizing his profit by waiting for the highest possible price of bitcoin.
hero member
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October 27, 2019, 03:24:29 AM
#40
~snip
One of the things I don't know is margin trading. But first we need to look at the daily margin trading volume to talk about it. I think this figure is too low even for margin trading.
The risk are higher and you need to follow the market trend closely and you need to have a bot to figure out the volumes in all the exchanges in order to understand the market situation, if you are having doubt about the daily margin trading volume then you have to look again, $4,372,987,034 being traded in one future exchange alone in the past 24 hours just combine the total volume and you will understand the huge market.
jr. member
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October 27, 2019, 03:21:46 AM
#39
-snip-

As you are not the author of this collection (did not find these addresses by yourself in blockchain), it is always good style to make the reference to the original post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52879592

However, thank you for transorming all the public keys to final addresses.

these titles were in the wrong range and moved to a safe place

2**169 > 2**170 Bit are all within this range
0x2000000000000000000000000000000000000000000:0x3ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff



Transactions from each address were made at different times, for several days but for a small period of time.
Therefore, we can assume that these addresses may have one owner or the owners of these addresses communicate with each other and do this together.
The reason (as one option) may be the desire to “update the repository” for the next few years.
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October 27, 2019, 03:02:44 AM
#38
It's about 8 years already passed away now the owner remembered that he had some BTC around 3000. He wants to exchange them now?

Oh no, did the year died? LOL!
Anyway, OP mentioned that the funds were transferred and didn't sell.

Moreover, that person or group surely a long term holder, imagine that he missed or didn't sold his bitcoin when it's on ATH last 2017. That profit he could get tho. Or he really have a lot of bitcoin keeping on different wallets. Envy those guys, erffff.
hero member
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October 27, 2019, 01:39:31 AM
#37
One question OP, how did you 'specifically' found this addresses?
I am guessing you have been monitoring it before now to know when the owner made this move.
Anyways, three particular thing is involved here;
1) Perhaps the owner suddenly remembered he had some certain amount of Bitcoin

2) The owner has been hodling since and probably finally decided to make use of the funds (Not sure why he didn't spend not even one when the price was 20k though)

3) Someone else got hold of the private key or assess to the funds. (I hope this is not the case here)

I have a list with dormant addresses around 2700 and I'm monitoring their activity for personal reasons.
Few days back I checked the balance on all of them and I saw that the funds were moved for some.

We don't know if is one person or a group. Also we don't know if is the owner..but it has the private keys.
The funds were only moved to other addresses.
That's fair mate.

I actually have a different theory, don't think they are actually dormant or that they belong to a single group/person, I think it's something thats more business-related.

It looks like the addresses are likely owned by a fairly rich company or even exchange for that matter. It could be an ICO that was keeping some of their funds in cold storage after they crowdfunded, or could be a cold wallet for an exchange. Wonder why they are suddenly active again though...
legendary
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October 27, 2019, 01:00:48 AM
#36
Nobody can answer this question with exact precision. I think making a connection is good, but when the nature of the address is unknown (no related address found), then this could turn into something unproductive.

Even if we know which addresses are related to this 'dormant' addresses, it's challenging to find out why exactly the TX happen or who did it. For an average joe at least.
legendary
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October 27, 2019, 12:10:11 AM
#35
they don't look that dormant to me. it is impossible to know for sure and walletexplorer doesn't recognize a couple of them that i searched, but they look more like funds a big service puts in its cold storage specially the way these inputs are created.
for example https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/741aa0b3ff1eb733c7b096fb18b0f4ee6891f98a7ad8900f5530b21d0b9db46d
and the change (527.6BTC) goes into what looks more like making payments to withdrawal requests, such as what exchanges do.
could this be Mt Gox?
hero member
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October 26, 2019, 10:43:57 PM
#34
Snip.
Maybe the owner of those Bitcoins wants to move them to split them into several wallets to improve their security.

Maybe that's why there was an increase in wallets with more than 1000 bitcoins.

I think that's the most likely reason, dormant addresses securing their Bitcoins.

8 years is enough time for anyone
If not, when?
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