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Topic: 🔥dota2expert.com accept\withdraw USDT TRC-20 no KYC check on ✅random.org - page 4. (Read 1267 times)

copper member
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฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
If you pay with bank cards. In this case, we may request to be verified.
If you are using cryptocurrency, no verification is required.
Okay.

Another Issue i discovered when I was reading the terms and conditions was i think they were not well edited or translated. Some part of the English version of ToS was in Russian. Is it a mistake or it was deliberate?

newbie
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The issue of No KYC is quite not clear to me. Please help me explain.

While you say that your platform does not require KYC. Your AML policy says otherwise. Now, I don't know which is which?

Quote from https://dota2expert.com/amlkys
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MINIMUM STANDARDS
dota2expert has set the standard for Know Your Customer (KYC). These standards require due diligence in relation to each client at risk before providing the opportunity to receive the goods offered on dota2expert by identifying and verifying his identity, as well as his representatives and beneficial owners based on documents, data or information obtained from a reliable and an independent source complying with national and European AML laws and regulations.
Interpreting the KYC principle starts with identifying a customer using the required identification documents.
All geographic and user data we receive allows us to apply the Customer Acceptance Policy. In addition to these objective criteria, there are subjective elements that can raise suspicion about the customer and which should be paid special attention to.
Finally, since KYC does not include static data, but dynamic data through the relationship with the customer, it also requires a follow-up and permanent customer monitoring.

CUSTOMER IDENTIFICATION AND VERIFICATION (KYC)
Official customer identification when entering into a business relationship is a vital element for both money laundering regulations and KYC policies.
This identification is based on the following fundamental principles:
A copy of your passport, ID or driver's license, each displayed along with a handwritten note that mentions dota2expert. Please note that all four corners of the ID must be visible in one image and all data must be legible.

ADDRESS VERIFICATION:
A recent utility bill sent to your registered address issued within the last 3 months.
To expedite the approval process, make sure the document is submitted with a clear authorization that all four corners of the document are visible and all text is readable.
Electricity bill, water bill, bank statement or any government letter addressed to you is a good example.


If you pay with bank cards. In this case, we may request to be verified.
If you are using cryptocurrency, no verification is required.
legendary
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Yep that seems confusing. Maybe they can clear what that means? or if they really don't ask for KYC probably they could just removed it from their website but still it's important that they will make this clear first.

I'm actually not familiar with the random.org but based from the link you have sent https://dota2expert.com/license it looks like they can be an alternative from provably fair games.
copper member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1814
฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
The issue of No KYC is quite not clear to me. Please help me explain.

While you say that your platform does not require KYC. Your AML policy says otherwise. Now, I don't know which is which?

Quote from https://dota2expert.com/amlkys
Quote
MINIMUM STANDARDS
dota2expert has set the standard for Know Your Customer (KYC). These standards require due diligence in relation to each client at risk before providing the opportunity to receive the goods offered on dota2expert by identifying and verifying his identity, as well as his representatives and beneficial owners based on documents, data or information obtained from a reliable and an independent source complying with national and European AML laws and regulations.
Interpreting the KYC principle starts with identifying a customer using the required identification documents.
All geographic and user data we receive allows us to apply the Customer Acceptance Policy. In addition to these objective criteria, there are subjective elements that can raise suspicion about the customer and which should be paid special attention to.
Finally, since KYC does not include static data, but dynamic data through the relationship with the customer, it also requires a follow-up and permanent customer monitoring.

CUSTOMER IDENTIFICATION AND VERIFICATION (KYC)
Official customer identification when entering into a business relationship is a vital element for both money laundering regulations and KYC policies.
This identification is based on the following fundamental principles:
A copy of your passport, ID or driver's license, each displayed along with a handwritten note that mentions dota2expert. Please note that all four corners of the ID must be visible in one image and all data must be legible.

ADDRESS VERIFICATION:
A recent utility bill sent to your registered address issued within the last 3 months.
To expedite the approval process, make sure the document is submitted with a clear authorization that all four corners of the document are visible and all text is readable.
Electricity bill, water bill, bank statement or any government letter addressed to you is a good example.
newbie
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We show how to check the service for honesty, which uses random.org

Go to the history of games and look at the NUMBER of two neighboring games, it always differs by +1 (for example, there was a game number 100, the next game is 101)

Click CHECK on each of the games. In the TWO pages that open on random.org, you will see the sequence number of the ticket request for each game. (IT MUST ALSO BE STRICTLY +1 DIFFERENT)

This suggests that in order to determine the winner, the request for tickets to random.org for each game was made only once. (i.e. no selection of tickets took place).

If you see that the request to random.org in neighboring games differs to EXAMPLE by +2 or +3.
This suggests that the service is picking tickets for the current game by making several requests in the current game at random.org.


https://dota2expert.com/license
newbie
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✅CSGO DOTA2 skins withdrawal in one place! dota2expert.com/store
newbie
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Big bets are already underway, as before.
Games between real people!
newbie
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Yes, if you top up with usdt trc20. You get + 5%
When withdrawing via usdt trc20, the commission is 5%
You can withdraw money immediately without even playing, it is not prohibited.

So it means you will get 5% if we withdraw? what if the 5% additional was lost and we want to withdraw the first deposit we deposit are you going to charge 5%? or was that the minimum commission even without the promo? honestly that was really a high commission.

So that people do not abuse the method.
Commission for withdrawal of 5% This is a very low commission compared to all similar sites.
When replenishing usdt trc20, you always get a 5% bonus to your deposit.

If you want to deposit and withdraw without commissions, then you will succeed.
legendary
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Yes, if you top up with usdt trc20. You get + 5%
When withdrawing via usdt trc20, the commission is 5%
You can withdraw money immediately without even playing, it is not prohibited.

So it means you will get 5% if we withdraw? what if the 5% additional was lost and we want to withdraw the first deposit we deposit are you going to charge 5%? or was that the minimum commission even without the promo? honestly that was really a high commission.
newbie
Activity: 91
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Gentlemen! Those who replenish through USDT trc20 + 5% to the deposit.

Just to make it clear if we deposit TRC20 USDT we will receive 5%+ in our deposit? Do you have any terms and condition for that? Some users here might abuse your promotion they might create multiple accounts deposit USDT and withdraw it with their free 5%. Do we need to wager it? Is there a rule that we cannot withdraw our base deposit if we don't wager the 5%?

Yes, if you top up with usdt trc20. You get + 5%
When withdrawing via usdt trc20, the commission is 5%
You can withdraw money immediately without even playing, it is not prohibited.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1026
Gentlemen! Those who replenish through USDT trc20 + 5% to the deposit.

Just to make it clear if we deposit TRC20 USDT we will receive 5%+ in our deposit? Do you have any terms and condition for that? Some users here might abuse your promotion they might create multiple accounts deposit USDT and withdraw it with their free 5%. Do we need to wager it? Is there a rule that we cannot withdraw our base deposit if we don't wager the 5%?
newbie
Activity: 91
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There is only a commission for the games. And then it is not always taken. You can withdraw from $ 2.

the value of the item is the value of the dollar.
If the item is worth $ 5, then when you sell it, you will receive $ 5.
hero member
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Dimon69
We are already working hard! Fast payments, fast replenishment in just 1 minute! You have never met this one!

Honesty with random.org!

Hello, I recently visit your website and don't the mechanics of the game. I know that it's pure roulette game using random.org api but I want to know if some game is player vs player like fast game. I honestly don't understand what's going on and how can I play without any steam account . I understand that your site requires dota2 items for betting how can we deposit our TRC20 USDT? Is your casino accepts both dota2 items and USDT as bet on the game? I'm also confused on your replenishment word. What was that supposed to mean?

1. USDT TRC20 top-up from $ 2.
2. Withdrawal from $ 2 USDT TRC20.
3. Skins are simply bought into your internal inventory.
4. When you withdraw money, you simply convert them into dollars.
5. You have never seen such low commissions.
6. All games take place only between living people.
7. Yes, we use a license key random.org

So if I will bet my in-game items, What will the conversion rate that will use to determine it's equivalent value on fiat? I'm an old player of Dota2 and I have some items there and some arcana left on my stash, I already stop playing almost 2 years ago and this is my first time to see (In my knowledge) that I can bet my items and convert it into straight cash. So just to be clear, If my bet won, I will take back my item and get the reward in USDT then I can safely withdraw it by giving you a small fee right? I'm gonna some of my items in there to try it out.

FYI, I saw your license and I thought it was for your online casino license,  Grin It's much better if you will put under the "probably fair" category since it's just a proof that you are using a legit randomizer api for a fair result. Good luck to your future ventures here!
newbie
Activity: 91
Merit: 0
We are already working hard! Fast payments, fast replenishment in just 1 minute! You have never met this one!

Honesty with random.org!

Hello, I recently visit your website and don't the mechanics of the game. I know that it's pure roulette game using random.org api but I want to know if some game is player vs player like fast game. I honestly don't understand what's going on and how can I play without any steam account . I understand that your site requires dota2 items for betting how can we deposit our TRC20 USDT? Is your casino accepts both dota2 items and USDT as bet on the game? I'm also confused on your replenishment word. What was that supposed to mean?

1. USDT TRC20 top-up from $ 2.
2. Withdrawal from $ 2 USDT TRC20.
3. Skins are simply bought into your internal inventory.
4. When you withdraw money, you simply convert them into dollars.
5. You have never seen such low commissions.
6. All games take place only between living people.
7. Yes, we use a license key random.org
hero member
Activity: 2716
Merit: 698
Dimon69
We are already working hard! Fast payments, fast replenishment in just 1 minute! You have never met this one!

Honesty with random.org!

Hello, I recently visit your website and don't the mechanics of the game. I know that it's pure roulette game using random.org api but I want to know if some game is player vs player like fast game. I honestly don't understand what's going on and how can I play without any steam account . I understand that your site requires dota2 items for betting how can we deposit our TRC20 USDT? Is your casino accepts both dota2 items and USDT as bet on the game? I'm also confused on your replenishment word. What was that supposed to mean?
newbie
Activity: 91
Merit: 0
We are already working hard! Fast payments, fast replenishment in just 1 minute! You have never met this one!

Honesty with random.org!
newbie
Activity: 91
Merit: 0
Replenishment + 5% USDTtrc20. Withdrawals are available on Binance, exchangers.
newbie
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Does it mean that I could even use a small capital for it? It sounds interesting but I hope that you have included the site so we would have an idea about it. I'm also wishing that you would add more exciting games on it like Dota 2 or League of legends. I'd love to try it soon.
You definetely can start with a small capital, just do not expect that you can easily double it.
What do you mean on adding games like Dota 2...? This site is mainly about dota 2 where you use your item in the game (Dota 2) as your bet. If they expand their business and add other games like LOL, I think they will need to change their business name.

We have crypto dota2  Grin You can play for real money here.
sr. member
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Binance #SWGT and CERTIK Audited
Does it mean that I could even use a small capital for it? It sounds interesting but I hope that you have included the site so we would have an idea about it. I'm also wishing that you would add more exciting games on it like Dota 2 or League of legends. I'd love to try it soon.
You definetely can start with a small capital, just do not expect that you can easily double it.
What do you mean on adding games like Dota 2...? This site is mainly about dota 2 where you use your item in the game (Dota 2) as your bet. If they expand their business and add other games like LOL, I think they will need to change their business name.
newbie
Activity: 91
Merit: 0
Does it mean that I could even use a small capital for it? It sounds interesting but I hope that you have included the site so we would have an idea about it. I'm also wishing that you would add more exciting games on it like Dota 2 or League of legends. I'd love to try it soon.

Deposit and withdrawal from $ 2.
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