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Thank you for your reply.

$250k funding still is a lot of investor risk for 25% equity in a non-operational business.

Domain businesses can be scaled up quickly.

Build the core business, then ask for seed funding would be my opinion when you have actual data and figures to back up your projections.

IF you were asking a reasonable amount of money to apply to become an official registrar and wanted to be the first crypto registrar then I'd be interested since I believe that is something lacking at the minute, however, your advantage in the market cannot only be based on being involved in the crypto community and being first-movers. That's not good enough in my opinion.

Thanks, I forgot to mention one more crucial point:
These shares will be 100% tradable on the NXT DEX, so if any investor for some reason wants out, he can trade them there. So a significant portion of the risk is lowered by having that option too.

We are working hard on building the core business and have come a long way and decided to seek funding now to complete and make this a reality as soon as possible. But I respect your personal opinion.

We are going to apply to become a official registrar as soon as we start turning a nice profit. If this includes selling more shares, then so be it. We mention this in our business plan too. So we *do* plan on going all the way, but we have to take it in incremental steps. Gaping over too much at once is even more risk! Smiley

Hopefully you'll be a customer of ours in the future and the domain and crypto world keeps growing, which will be in both our interests Smiley
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...One of us even went so far as to become the first person in the world to change their last name to .Com back in 2001!
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Welp, not going to be needing DSM-5 for this one. 

Back in the days the guy was pretty crazy...about domains. Smiley
Wouldn’t call a guy with this background a mental disordered ? !

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Thank you for your reply.

$250k funding still is a lot of investor risk for 25% equity in a non-operational business.

Domain businesses can be scaled up quickly.

Build the core business, then ask for seed funding would be my opinion when you have actual data and figures to back up your projections.

IF you were asking a reasonable amount of money to apply to become an official registrar and wanted to be the first crypto registrar then I'd be interested since I believe that is something lacking at the minute, however, your advantage in the market cannot only be based on being involved in the crypto community and being first-movers. That's not good enough in my opinion.
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...One of us even went so far as to become the first person in the world to change their last name to .Com back in 2001!
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Welp, not going to be needing DSM-5 for this one. 
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You say your business plan notes in painstaking detail but your business plan is shockingly incomplete.

Could you please elaborate on what you mean by incomplete?
You mention some valid concerns in your post, but not really asking for much more details, so it's hard to know how to "complete it" to your satisfaction without further details.


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I would be interested to know the background of the people founding the company. Also 25% equity is not going to cut the mustard for $250k... Valuing the company at $1m is just absurd as at the minute you have absolutely nothing... according to the report you haven't even developed any software etc...

Linkedin and NXT community involvement since it's inception should cover the first in terms of our crypto-involvement. We are all crypto-enthusiasts and all have been in the domain game for years, 2 professionally.

The valuation is based on several different factors, but I can understand your skepticism, so I'll do my best to shed some additional light on it:

Firstly we are getting funded entirely by cryptocurrencies, so as you probably know even if we raise the total amount it will still carry a big risk until we sell it through the exchanges. By then the value of either of these cryptos can have sunk significantly, so this risk is calculated into the sum we hope to raise. Pretty much every other IPO ever conducted has not had to worry about this, so it's a completely new element. But that comes with the territory of being innovative in a new and emergent market. A challenge which we accept.

Secondly, we are not just going to sell some domains. We are aiming to be a serious contender on the domain marketplace, parking and appraisal scene. Since you are already very familiar with the selling part I am a bit puzzled as to why you find it hard to believe that such a business will be worth 1 million dollars? Add parking and the appraisal business and the 1 million dollar evaluation suddenly don't seem to be a lot at all.

Thirdly, we are the absolute first serious company in this market that will accept all the major cryptocurrencies. This market alone is huge and continues to grow weekly. Having first mover advantage and branding/marketing here is a big deal.
This is also why it is so important to us to have a good and genuine relationship to the cryptocurrency scene. We donated NXT.org (bought for 15 000 dollars) and had it developed, just to help out the community. This sort of relationship is not something one can easily purchase. We have put months upon months into crypto activism.

Also regarding software, we do have software started and infact our appraisal tools are completely cutting edge and unlike anything in the domain game yet. It has been under development for years. But as you probably know, development and marketing cost money. Quite a lot of money. And as the numbers show: a significant sum of this will go directly to transfer-repository fees.

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It doesn't matter how well presented a business plan is, if the underlying figures are so negative.

You emphasise throughout the plan of your huge forecasted figures but these are not at all realistic... $300m in 2018. Come on really...

I think you should go back and re-read the plan, the $300m number is only one of the variant projections.
We have a conservative one, realistic one and optimistic one.
Conservative for 2018: 7.9 million, realistic ~100million (if everything goes smooth and the domain market keeps growing at a steady rate, as experts and all available numbers suggest) and then 250 million or the optimistic one.

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I would know this because I currently sell domains and I have a large portfolio as well as experience in this sector. Domains are very illiquid. You will not make $1m let alone $300m in my opinion.

Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions, but please read the full business plan and see the actual numbers before latching onto one tidbit and try to denounce our entire efforts based on that out of context.

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Moderate my post at your will but these are the kind of thoughts any potential investor in your business are going to be coming up with.

Would never ever moderate anyones post in any shape way or form. I am happy to answer all questions you might have and don't mind at all that you raise your valid concerns. It's good to settle them and hopefully provide you with satisfactory answers!

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The equity is not event emotively comparable to the risk.

Even with the very conservative estimate people are looking at more than 40x ROI. Of course there is going to be risk, but nothing comparative to the risk of dealing with altcoins in the first place.
We are trying to build a serious business based around this and think everyone understands that there is inherent risk in any investment, but we are also confident that our business plans and answers will make it easy for people to make up their own minds.

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How much cash have you founders put up yourselves in this project already? Financial proof of this?

Tens of thousands and hundreds upon hundreds of hours of work. Not sure what would satisfy you as financial proof.

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Best of luck with your project.

Thanks! I hope you find my answers clarify some of your concerns.
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You say your business plan notes in painstaking detail but your business plan is shockingly incomplete.

I would be interested to know the background of the people founding the company. Also 25% equity is not going to cut the mustard for $250k... Valuing the company at $1m is just absurd as at the minute you have absolutely nothing... according to the report you haven't even developed any software etc...

It doesn't matter how well presented a business plan is, if the underlying figures are so negative.

You emphasise throughout the plan of your huge forecasted figures but these are not at all realistic... $300m in 2018. Come on really...

I would know this because I currently sell domains and I have a large portfolio as well as experience in this sector. Domains are very illiquid. You will not make $1m let alone $300m in my opinion.

Moderate my post at your will but these are the kind of thoughts any potential investor in your business are going to be coming up with.

The equity is not even remotely comparable to the risk.

How much cash have you founders put up yourselves in this project already? Financial proof of this?

So many points to be raised but these are just some of the main ones.


Best of luck with your project.
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Why are you even raising money? Why do you need it?
Is it to get rich or to improve anything?

Why are we raising money? The business plan describes this in painstaking detail.
Opening up a domain market is far from free, all the math is in there for you to confirm Smiley

We are trying to improve the domainmarket trade, yes, current fees are ridiculously high and noone accept the major cryptocurrencies. With the growth of cryptos we see a huge untapped market here.

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English Motherfucker do you speak it ?
Why are you even raising money? Why do you need it?
Is it to get rich or to improve anything?
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Does your site offer brokerage services like sedo?
Yes:)
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Does your site offer brokerage services like sedo?
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The fund-raising is over.
Unfortunately the project did not got funded, all money will be returned to the people dooring the next week, so please put up sell orders at 15 NXT/share to get the money back , I will start buying them back after will receive the shares from the altcoin investors.
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The fund-raising is over.
Unfortunately the project did not got funded, all money will be returned to the people dooring the next week, so please put up sell orders at 15 NXT/share to get the money back , I will start buying them back after will receive the shares from the altcoin investors.
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