Topic: Doubts if I have been scammed or not. (Read 456 times)

Hello, not news at the moment. I thought about creating a new email contact so we can all talk by message using another way, because I cannot send private messages.  What do you all think?

Regards,

Hello All, Any updates from anyone? Please let me know if you guys find any leads. I lost huge money. Any help would be much appreciated.

Hello, any news?

The url which Cricragu sent , localvbitcoinco , is not working anymore. They are moving that "webpage" a lot.

Cricragu we can work together

Hello,

Cricragu,thank you very much, I would like to get the culprits, but I don't know how to do it. As mocaccino said, it can be really complicated. I don't have the tools to do this. I tell you what I did:
 - I sent an email to the police in Signapore but they haven't contacted me yet. I guess my european email has reached their mailbox as a possible Scam. Otherwise, they are so busy that they cannot take care of this because it takes a lot of time for them.
 - I have found a telephone number  of the Monetary Authority of Singapore but I have to be sure that they could take care of this business . I would not like to disturb them.
 - I have been using the BTC sniffer found in the website posted by JelenaFDB to find my wallet address. I can't , but I can see the transactions in Blockchain . com

By now, I am waiting for  SF213 to see if we can share the email and verify the "agent" who contacted us. In addition, I would like to contact Star ter but I cannot send private messages through this forum


Suggestions? Take into account that we don't want to call the attention from this organisation or whatever they are. If anybody can give advices, they are much more than welcome. In my opinion, in my point of view, I don't know what to do.


Regards,

Rickypren, I guess they have multiple domains. They shared this link to transfer the bitcoins. I have no clue how to track them. Let’s work together and get those culprits.

Thanks  lot Cricragu. How did you know it? Is it possible to track them?

Regards,

Hi,Don’t know how to begin with, even I fell in this trap, I lost a huge money. Please let me know if you guys gets any leads to get this culprits. Now they change the domain to www.localbitcoinco.com

Sorry , I have been busy and couldn't read propely your posts.
mocaccino, great information, thank you very much. Thank you for your advises too. I am not going to be scammed again.  About what you have explained, yes, I guess there are so many transactions that it is almost impossible to track them.  

JelenaFDB, if you have some information or advertisements, please send it by private message. Looks like we should not post any names or something  in these messages.

Star Ter, I thought I sent you a message last week. Appareantly , it wasn't sent. I will try to , otherwise, please send one to me.
SF213, looks like we have the same scammer.. we cannot share photos but send me a message describing the situation please.

In addition: I have a question. If somebody finds the scammer/scammers or the organisation where they work for, would it be possible to have the bitcoins back?  Will the police or whoever catches the scammers  be able to return the bitcoins to us?

Good luck to Star Ter and SF213. If your situation is similar to mine, again, don't hesitate to message me (I am trying to do it)


Thank you.

Regards,

Usually scammers steal images to be used on their webpages and profiles... Use google image search.... If it's a stolen photo, it has 0 value. If it's a real photo it might have 0.0000000001 value: in other words, it only has a value IF somebody recognizes the photo AND if you find somebody in the same country as the person in the photo that is willing to start legal proceedings against this person.

Hey

If I have few photos of "an agent" who kinda represented me on localbtccontract...

Would it help me some how?

Rickyy I was also deceived by the site localbtcontract only I have more than yours, if we unite efforts we can achieve a better result, your business is to ignore me or not

you can send trusted crypto firms that deal with stolen bitcoins?

Well,

If i'm able to follow your story, you moved your funds from localbitcoins (which is a real site, it is known for locking accounts, but they are real) to a scam site. This means that the scammer has the private key for the address that's currently funded with your money. He (or she) is the only one who can spend it.

I think there is some miscommunications: nobody can hack bitcoins, with some exceptions due to flaws in wallets. In this case, they don't hack bitcoin, they exploit a flaw in a wallet to steal from somebody else, but they're not actually "hacking" bitcoin.

As for JenelaFDB: it seems she is promoting some new service... The domain they're using is quite old, but it seems like google cache and the wayback machine don't have any pre-existing data about them, making me think they're new...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jelenafdb-2884270
What she says makes some sense in some ways, but in my experience i've allmost never seen an unknown scammer (like yours) getting caught. Big ones, public ones, the ones that used a real company under their real name in order to scam people: sure... They end up behind bars... But small websites using fake company's under fake names, using whois protection on some bulletproof host: allmost never... Not for the lack of trying, but because it's allmost impossible to track them down.
Most scammers use a mixer, a coinjoin transaction or exchange their BTC for XMR. They also tend to keep their "earnings" for a long time, and tend to withdraw them from sketchy exchanges in different country's. It's possible they use a fake identity, but there are sooo many people exchanging BTC to FIAT on every given day, that it becomes impossible to know who is the scammer that scammed you.

I'm going to give an IRL situation: a bank robber is stealing money from a bank. The bank manager says: we always write down the serial numbers of all banknotes we have, so we will catch the robbers when they deposit our notes using a fake identity.... Sure, this is true IF and only IF the robbers don't wash their money trough a network of little stores first. If they do, sure, they'll still deposit stolen money, but it won't be the same bills they stole from the bank earlyer. Sure, if you knew exactly who to look for, you could arrest them, but you don't know who to look for: $50.000 was stolen from bank x on the 1st of januari, and some unknown dude is depositing $45.000 of laundered on the 1st of may in a bank in a different country, there is no way of connecting them.
In the crypto ecosphere it's even easyer: you don't need a lot of small stores, you just need to use a mixer. Everybody could do this, it's very easy and cheap, so there's no reason any real hacker wouldn't use them.

I'd be carefull using new services... I'm not saying they are fake, i'm just saying that i don't know them, and a lot of scammers prey on people that are new in this community. It's not unheared of that scammers target scam victims. Once again, i'm NOT saying this is the case here... I'm just telling you to look out not to get scammed a second time.

Hello everybody, sorry this post didn't send updates to my email. I am reading JelenaFDB and mocaccino. Thank you for your interesting words and feedback. I am interested in this, of course.

 I can see my wallet adress (WA) (public WA) but I haven't got my private keys. Where are they generated? In LocalBitcoins.com?  Are they in my Dashboard?

I remember that there was a first message saying "write this on a piece of paper" as I signed up to LocalBitcoins I am going to check this out. If I had the private key, would it be possible to restore my BTC?

JelenaFDB what you are telling us makes sense. BTC should be a secure blockchain and trading for simple people like me should be secure. As this discussion is not allowed to have urls and so on, can you send me a list of forensic companies so I can see by myself if this is true? 

mocaccino, what you say  is that anybody can "hack" bitcoins ... right?

Please note: I am just asking!

Thank you so much.

Ricky can you write me on personal message?

Most of the large volume scams are done by a stole document / fake identity on exchanges that support KYC or criminals are buying assets ( villas, yachts, penthouses) directly with cryptocurrency from specialised protected shell companies. However due to introduction of travel rule and mandatory KYC/AML through most of the exchanges the belt is tightening. Barrier to entry into crypto scam is increasing and its not easy to be a criminal. On top of that there are many forensic companies that hold the information about the whole chains of addresses that are involved into fraudalent activity and they are constantly monitored. It is true that no one can stop crime 100 % but the percentage of non KYC methods of transfer are in decline and criminals have less and less space to hide away. Our aim is to help as much as we can, we do not claim we can recover each case but we will do our best to put all of our staff technology and connections in order to make crypto space a bit more secure.

What do you mean? if you are a victim of crypto fraud you can file a claim on our website icifdb.org and get connected with verified crypto law firms.

The criminal uses one coinjoin, mixer or non-KYC exchange to a privacy-coin and all those firms are worthless.
Sure, if you're faced with a dumb criminal, transactions can be tracked... But this is rare, very rare.
I've been around for a long while, and the odds somebody falling for a scam like this gets his funds back are allmost nonexistant.

It's a different case if a big exchange or person that used to have an IRL presence goes scam, but in this case, i would refrain from giving the op false hope.

can you find out the companies that are looking for the lost cryptocurrency?