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Quote from: livingfree on March 20, 2024, 04:37:36 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on March 20, 2024, 04:09:45 PM

There is a difference though. Drake can afford the addiction, what hurts is for people who can't. Drake can lose a million and walk away. He still has a productive life and it's obviously not effecting his lifestyle. So what is the difference between addiction and enjoying something as a hobby so much that you continue to do it. If someone golf's everyday do people look down on it? Same thing here.

I agree.

Drake is on another level and I think that this is the first time that the majority of us have heard Bruno Mars gambles like this and look on how far he went.

While Drake has a lot of associated business that can sustain his gambling needs. We don't know a lot if we're talking about Bruno Mars, maybe he's got a lot of ventures too but he's way uncontrollable if he gets to those situations that he's on a rage to gamble.

We dont actually be able to know someones condition or situation not until that those unfortunate situations or conditions been popping out into the public. Actually it doesnt matter if you are an average joe
or a famous person on which anyone could deal up with gambling and chances of winning and losing would really be just that the same or simply there would really be no comparison when it comes to this.
It is really just that this is our first time hearing out a celebrity that do get involved with gambling and ended up on having that huge debt on which this would really be the main topic on here.

There would be no exemptions and there would be no exclusions about on someone on getting addicted. The main difference on here in compared with those average gamblers is that these people are
that celebrities on which they do earn millions and they can simply be able to patch it up for some time if ever they would be having a debt in compared into those people who are playing extreme
but there's no finances that could really be able to back up with. Grin

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on March 20, 2024, 04:09:45 PM

There is a difference though. Drake can afford the addiction, what hurts is for people who can't. Drake can lose a million and walk away. He still has a productive life and it's obviously not effecting his lifestyle. So what is the difference between addiction and enjoying something as a hobby so much that you continue to do it. If someone golf's everyday do people look down on it? Same thing here.

I agree.

Drake is on another level and I think that this is the first time that the majority of us have heard Bruno Mars gambles like this and look on how far he went.

While Drake has a lot of associated business that can sustain his gambling needs. We don't know a lot if we're talking about Bruno Mars, maybe he's got a lot of ventures too but he's way uncontrollable if he gets to those situations that he's on a rage to gamble.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on March 20, 2024, 04:09:45 PM

There is a difference though. Drake can afford the addiction, what hurts is for people who can't. Drake can lose a million and walk away. He still has a productive life and it's obviously not effecting his lifestyle. So what is the difference between addiction and enjoying something as a hobby so much that you continue to do it. If someone golf's everyday do people look down on it? Same thing here.

And what about Bruno Mars? It's true that when it comes to music and world popularity, Drake is the favorite, but don't you think that Bruno is also doing well for himself as well? I know as stated by the op that Bruno Mars is in the news for oweing $50 million dollars in gambling loan, but how legitimate is this news? Like I said before in my previous comment, there are a lot of fake and over exergerated news flying around each and everyday, bloggers and news channels will do or say anything, post anything against anyone just to drive internet traffic to their blog or site, so, things like that are better confirmed before believing them.

And concerning what you said about addiction and hobby, this are actually two complete different things, doing something you love and taking it as a hobby is completely different from doing something one is addicted in, for how a person participates in an activity he or she is addicted in or to, is quit and significantly different from how the same person participates in an activity he or she takes simply as a hobby.
Think about it.

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There is a difference though. Drake can afford the addiction, what hurts is for people who can't. Drake can lose a million and walk away. He still has a productive life and it's obviously not effecting his lifestyle. So what is the difference between addiction and enjoying something as a hobby so much that you continue to do it. If someone golf's everyday do people look down on it? Same thing here.

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Quote from: piebeyb on March 20, 2024, 08:34:47 AM

Quote from: boyptc on March 19, 2024, 06:54:02 PM

There's a statement that's been released by the MGM that he's not in debt of $50M. Well, I guess that should end all of our speculations about him being addicted and let that just end the thing from the issue.

--> https://ew.com/bruno-mars-doesnt-owe-50-million-gambling-debts-mgm-says-8611395

Since the news about his debts is everywhere, it makes a lot of people speculate, so it's natural for the media to fry up information to get traffic on their sites or their social media, after all, even though he's addicted to gambling and in debt, I'm sure he'll be able to pay it off as long as his career hasn't dimmed enough. If he just holds concerts in several countries, maybe he can pay off his debts quickly, unless his career as an artist fades, it's impossible for this news to spread everywhere.

I also understand that news like this must have clarification from one of the parties as to whether the media is deliberately spreading untrue news or something else for their own benefit by creating fake news, but I would also be happier if one of them explained the news. Actually, even though Bruno Mars is not in debt, I think this news should end because this news could damage his reputation as an artist, especially not everyone who gambles is good in the eyes of all his fans and this will definitely create a bad image and tarnish Bruno Mars' name too. this is interesting news to see too, lol Grin

Well, the party involve doesn't have to clarify anything and can remain silent. But if it's an issue that's really degrading the person involve like for Bruno's case, then he has to do some cleaning up and has to release a statement.

And on his case, it wasn't him that did it but the management where it was said he's got debts.

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There's a statement that's been released by the MGM that he's not in debt of $50M. Well, I guess that should end all of our speculations about him being addicted and let that just end the thing from the issue.

--> https://ew.com/bruno-mars-doesnt-owe-50-million-gambling-debts-mgm-says-8611395

Now it make a lot of sense that people will easily believe on some article released without verifying anything and good thing they MGM management release this statement since it can clear up the doubts of people or worried that their favorite artist is experiencing a bad implications due to his gambling addiction. Now maybe we can say that Bruno Mars is fine and its just some media or people just stir up and put a malice on minds of people so that they can get a lot of attention from people. And they succeed but immediately some big entities shutdown these negative news and clear out his name. For sure no people will not speculate how bad the situation of Bruno Mars since by reading the updated news we can say that he is fine and no big debts just like what other people spread.

This is the internet era, where people are free to spread facts, lies, editorials and more.

It's certainly terrible to see him have that debt if it's for real because $50M is a lot and even if he's a performer and gets paid highly, you'll never know if he's capable of doing that.

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This latest news with Bruno Mars is pretty crazy. I wouldn't put him in the same category as Drake because Drake can afford to lose millions and it isn't a big deal. Casino's letting Bruno Mars get himself into the hole $50,000,000 shouldn't be allowed though. He's going to end up performing in Vegas for the rest of his life to try and work off that debt. If I were his accountant, I'd have him looking into ways to move assets around and file for bankruptcy. A $50,000,000 gambling debt is insane. I really hope he finds some help or has an amazing comeback run. This is a bad situation.

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That's just how much power money has. Let's say these ceebrities has huge money from endorsements and shows and to their fields of populaarity however, no money is infinite especially if your expenses succeeds the amount that goes on your bank account. I hope this is just a humor 'coz I'm one of his fans. I also heard of how huge Drake gambles especially with big matches that he often loses. I really believed that those numbers are just amounts under their risk tolerance given how huge his networth is. But if it is true that these big names of music industry are really becoming financially problematic, then this should be a warning to those who are also planning to continue their high rolling betting habits. Such stories are cliché; rich individuals losing everything because of gambling. I get the point that not all people will take such instances, seriously, not unless it already happen on your end. Thing is simple; never wait for such thing to bury you down at your lowest. Make a change already.

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Quote from: boyptc on March 19, 2024, 06:54:02 PM

There's a statement that's been released by the MGM that he's not in debt of $50M. Well, I guess that should end all of our speculations about him being addicted and let that just end the thing from the issue.

--> https://ew.com/bruno-mars-doesnt-owe-50-million-gambling-debts-mgm-says-8611395

Now it make a lot of sense that people will easily believe on some article released without verifying anything and good thing they MGM management release this statement since it can clear up the doubts of people or worried that their favorite artist is experiencing a bad implications due to his gambling addiction. Now maybe we can say that Bruno Mars is fine and its just some media or people just stir up and put a malice on minds of people so that they can get a lot of attention from people. And they succeed but immediately some big entities shutdown these negative news and clear out his name. For sure no people will not speculate how bad the situation of Bruno Mars since by reading the updated news we can say that he is fine and no big debts just like what other people spread.

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Quote from: boyptc on March 19, 2024, 06:54:02 PM

There's a statement that's been released by the MGM that he's not in debt of $50M. Well, I guess that should end all of our speculations about him being addicted and let that just end the thing from the issue.

--> https://ew.com/bruno-mars-doesnt-owe-50-million-gambling-debts-mgm-says-8611395

Since the news about his debts is everywhere, it makes a lot of people speculate, so it's natural for the media to fry up information to get traffic on their sites or their social media, after all, even though he's addicted to gambling and in debt, I'm sure he'll be able to pay it off as long as his career hasn't dimmed enough. If he just holds concerts in several countries, maybe he can pay off his debts quickly, unless his career as an artist fades, it's impossible for this news to spread everywhere.

I also understand that news like this must have clarification from one of the parties as to whether the media is deliberately spreading untrue news or something else for their own benefit by creating fake news, but I would also be happier if one of them explained the news. Actually, even though Bruno Mars is not in debt, I think this news should end because this news could damage his reputation as an artist, especially not everyone who gambles is good in the eyes of all his fans and this will definitely create a bad image and tarnish Bruno Mars' name too. this is interesting news to see too, lol Grin

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not only bruno mars, there are several other hollywood artists who were caught in similar cases, where they owed millions of dollars just because of gambling. they are an example of how popular artists can be very stupid in gambling and take the gambling they do lightly because they think that their wealth is large enough that they can waste it.

they are not suitable for gamblers to emulate, because they are irresponsible and very careless. even though they can be successful in their careers, they are not good at gambling.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 20, 2024, 04:06:42 AM

Quote from: boyptc on March 19, 2024, 06:54:02 PM

There's a statement that's been released by the MGM that he's not in debt of $50M. Well, I guess that should end all of our speculations about him being addicted and let that just end the thing from the issue.

--> https://ew.com/bruno-mars-doesnt-owe-50-million-gambling-debts-mgm-says-8611395

The thing is, how this kind of news has surface by the way? Who leaked it and why? If this is true then probably it's damage control. But it seems that the negative news has been pickup already by a lot of social media outlets and not sure how Bruno Mars will respond or take this news.

Regardless though, and again, ethics says that gambling can affect everyone. People are going to be vulnerable, even if you have $5 or $50 million in your bank account. Majority of us here have been gambling addicts at one point in our life, and maybe some of us have recovered and learn our lessons already.

You know with how quick the information spreads nowadays, there's no measures or control with how these news comes out.

Whether they are real or not, the thing is most of the information that can go viral will definitely will make a news even if Bruno will claim that it's false or someone else will.

And even it is a real deal but the personality involved can easily deny it.

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Quote from: Jating on March 19, 2024, 07:52:36 AM

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Caught myself thinking, that it is better for celebrities to have a gambling addiction like that, so that money they have lost would go to country economy (instead of just being on bank accounts), then they have drug or alcohol addiction. Here is why: they earn, they lose in gambling, they do their best to perform (act or write a new song, whatever they want, as it is about creativity) and earn new money. Than earn and spend everything on drugs, alcohol and party.

But it's better not to spend it in gambling those money that they earn? Still it's hard-earn, they have to work hard for it, not like the invested money that grow overtime. And if the likes of Bruno Mars want to make changes, then he can donate some of that money to his country or to where his family is, that is in the Philippines.

Not saying that I disagree with you, but I think that kind of mindset is your. It's like just giving excuses for this celebrities to continue to gamble because they are thinking that they are helping the economy and that is very wrong argument.

No, this is not an excuse. This is more like you do something, fail, but later return twice stronger and motivated. It is not like I am openly supporting gambling addiction and call people to gamble. But instead of buying another house for 50 millions, spending millions on parties, alcohol and drugs, he would better lose those money Cheesy

And casinos would use those money for promotion, development, support Cheesy

Or on donation, that is also a good idea. The idea of my post was "you cant get better without failing" and among all bad addictions, gambling is the lightest and harmless.

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Quote from: boyptc on March 19, 2024, 06:54:02 PM

There's a statement that's been released by the MGM that he's not in debt of $50M. Well, I guess that should end all of our speculations about him being addicted and let that just end the thing from the issue.

--> https://ew.com/bruno-mars-doesnt-owe-50-million-gambling-debts-mgm-says-8611395

The thing is, how this kind of news has surface by the way? Who leaked it and why? If this is true then probably it's damage control. But it seems that the negative news has been pickup already by a lot of social media outlets and not sure how Bruno Mars will respond or take this news.

Regardless though, and again, ethics says that gambling can affect everyone. People are going to be vulnerable, even if you have $5 or $50 million in your bank account. Majority of us here have been gambling addicts at one point in our life, and maybe some of us have recovered and learn our lessons already.

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As far as I'm concerned, if you gamble according to the rules bad gambling guidelines can't hurt you. Drake and Bruno Mars gambling addiction can affect anyone gambling addiction affects every gambler in a negative way. Warnings The big thing here is the risk involved in gambling so proceed with caution. The biggest thing here is not to overstep your boundaries. Addiction can be prevented with responsibility. It's sad for Drake and Bruno Mars gambling addiction

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There's a statement that's been released by the MGM that he's not in debt of $50M. Well, I guess that should end all of our speculations about him being addicted and let that just end the thing from the issue.

--> https://ew.com/bruno-mars-doesnt-owe-50-million-gambling-debts-mgm-says-8611395

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This practically reminds us that they're still the humans like us and still makes the same mistakes that we do. Whatever good or bad behavior you've as a poor man will still manifest even if you're Elon Musk, reason being that its your status that changed, and not your personality. I'm not surprised at all, but I fault their managers and personal assistants who never recommended them to therapy to help curtail their excesses or even go behind the scenes to get their accounts disabled on time before the addiction got a better of them and resulted to mindless lavishing of funds.

Gambling addiction is no respecter of man, what it does to the poor guy, is the same thing it'll likely do the rich guy, no discrimination. We all need to be careful and learn to gamble responsibly before we start living in regrets. I'm sure Bruno regrets his actions and wishes he could turn back the hand of the clock, but sadly, its too late now.

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Quote from: Marykeller on March 19, 2024, 03:25:51 PM

Quote from: Potato Chips on March 17, 2024, 05:45:48 PM

Well, thank god he's a very in demand global artist since he still takes home $1.5 million per night after paying his debts with taxes included lol -- it's probably in installment. Plus I'm pretty sure he has other sources of income as well e.g. ads, tours, album, etc.

However, if he doesn't fix his gambling addiction, I wouldn't be surprised if he'll be in a deeper debt that possibly may be more than what he could handle. I hope he gets the help he needs.

Someone who earns $1.5 million per night is still aiming for more money from gambling. Truly, what people say about money not being enough for human beings if given the whole of it, is true.

It is somehow that someone who earns $1.5 million per night show is aiming for more money. All the same, living a celebrity lifestyle is not quite easy because you will be living a life to match up with the kind of life you have placed yourself in. That's why you find most celebrities engaging in illicit dealings to make money. If it is drug dealing or gambling addicts you find them in.

I don't think he is aiming for money here, I'm not a psychologist or something, but from what I'm seeing Bruno Mars might be overwhelmed with all of his success and maybe this is just one way for him to escape. There are a lot of individuals who uses gambling to escape with or without problems. And once they are hook, they get addicted just like the rest of us. So there's no boundaries whatsoever, even famous men are prone to be gambling addicts like Bruno Mars.

Even the GOAT himself, Michael Jordan as per report says that he has gambling problems too, but he denied that. So that is another sign as well that probably it is true as most addicts doesn't want to admit on it.

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Quote from: Marykeller on March 19, 2024, 03:25:51 PM

Quote from: Potato Chips on March 17, 2024, 05:45:48 PM

Well, thank god he's a very in demand global artist since he still takes home $1.5 million per night after paying his debts with taxes included lol -- it's probably in installment. Plus I'm pretty sure he has other sources of income as well e.g. ads, tours, album, etc.

However, if he doesn't fix his gambling addiction, I wouldn't be surprised if he'll be in a deeper debt that possibly may be more than what he could handle. I hope he gets the help he needs.

Someone who earns $1.5 million per night is still aiming for more money from gambling. Truly, what people say about money not being enough for human beings if given the whole of it, is true.

It is somehow that someone who earns $1.5 million per night show is aiming for more money. All the same, living a celebrity lifestyle is not quite easy because you will be living a life to match up with the kind of life you have placed yourself in. That's why you find most celebrities engaging in illicit dealings to make money. If it is drug dealing or gambling addicts you find them in.

There's no such thing about the word "contentment" when it comes to money on which people would really be seeking more money and there's no end to it because once greed do kicks in then it would really be that hard to control and this is where people do usually fails. They would really be only making up those kind of realizations on the time that they would really be experiencing hardship and disasters.
We dont know on whats up on the mind of Bruno Mars on why he do play gambling on which it could really be just neither of the two whether gamble for fun and didnt notice his debt rising up
or really just that aiming for the money on which everyone could really be having.

If he earns 1.5M per night show then how many shows he would really be needing to make himself that able to repay those debts? well this is the most common condition or situation
for someone to face on when they do get irresponsible with their gambling activity or dealings.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on March 17, 2024, 05:45:48 PM

Well, thank god he's a very in demand global artist since he still takes home $1.5 million per night after paying his debts with taxes included lol -- it's probably in installment. Plus I'm pretty sure he has other sources of income as well e.g. ads, tours, album, etc.

However, if he doesn't fix his gambling addiction, I wouldn't be surprised if he'll be in a deeper debt that possibly may be more than what he could handle. I hope he gets the help he needs.

Someone who earns $1.5 million per night is still aiming for more money from gambling. Truly, what people say about money not being enough for human beings if given the whole of it, is true.

It is somehow that someone who earns $1.5 million per night show is aiming for more money. All the same, living a celebrity lifestyle is not quite easy because you will be living a life to match up with the kind of life you have placed yourself in. That's why you find most celebrities engaging in illicit dealings to make money. If it is drug dealing or gambling addicts you find them in.

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Quote from: alastantiger on March 17, 2024, 05:11:45 PM

Several internet sources today has reported that Bruno Mars borrows money specifically for gambling purposes, this is one thing that goes against one of the rules of responsible gambling. Bruno currently owes 50 million dollar in gambling debts. I am not going to bore you with the detail. Therefore, I will leave a link to the full story - https://www.nme.com/news/music/bruno-mars-is-reportedly-50million-in-debt-due-to-gambling-3602329.

I never knew someone would borrow this kind of amount to gamble. It is not a good idea to do such a thing. Law of gambling permits only to gamble what you can afford to lose but not what to borrow and lose. It would have been better if the lost amount is from his pocket than amount gotten from loan.

Quote from: alastantiger on March 17, 2024, 05:11:45 PM

The lesson to learn is that gambling addiction is not respecter of Gender, economic status, race, nationality, religion. It will mess you up, bring shame and disgrace to you if you don't abide by the rules of responsible and do all you can to avoid it.

Actually gambling is a respected of no body, that is enough reason we should gamble with care and using a lesser amount to gamble.

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