Topic: Dr.Craig Wright talking about the end of bitcoin next year. [No FUD here] (Read 842 times)

Roger Ver has become a full blown Shill for ABC and their WHC/Plasma scheme, financial incentives i guess. CSW knows more about bitcoin than most, he understands that bitcoin is an economic system and for it to work for the world it has to scale on chain.

The Bitcoin network does not care about your unique interpretation of stats from August 2017.  The BTC chain has reached consensus on each and every day since that "event".  Your opinions on the matter are irrelevant.  You don't seem to comprehend the fact that softforks are permitted.  Softforks do not bypass consensus.  If you think they do, it might be wise for you to find another network where softforks aren't permitted and use that instead, rather than just whining about it all the time.  None of your FUD and attempts to re-write history changes what actually happened.  SegWit was activated because consensus was reached.  If that's not how you see it, you clearly don't share the same definition of the word "consensus" as the network does.  That's your problem, not ours.



Yes, Franky1, we've all noticed your immense talent for taking topics that aren't directly discussing SegWit and LN and twisting them to suit your propaganda and FUD.  All it took was someone to mention that CSW has been taking shots at LN, for you to treat that as an invitation for you to join CSW in doing exactly the same (talking a load of easily debunked crap, that is).  Why are you meandering?  Here it is, just in case you need some help in understanding the plain and simple fact that YOU are the one who, as always, takes the thread off-topic:


This is what you do.  You derailed the topic from people talking about CSW and changed it to taking pot shots at LN/SegWit/softforks/devs/etc just like you do in most of the topics you post in.  You're not even subtle about it anymore.  Given even the slightest opportunity, even when it's nothing to do with the topic, you'll start blathering on about "social drama", "consensus bypass", "mandatory upgrade", "tyranny", "developer control" and all your other tedious bullshit catchphrases.  You don't get to talk about "meandering" (your latest catchphrase) when that's all you ever do.  I'm not putting you on ignore, because trolls need shooting down.  However, I strongly encourage everyone else reading this to put you on ignore.  You're the same breed of vile toxic waste as Craig "Scammer" Wright.  Anyone reading this thread can see that.

LN clearly won't end Bitcoin.  It's actually a bigger threat to the altcoins that split away and refuse to support it (which leads me to believe that's why you're so strongly opposed to it, just like CSW).  Bitcoin is going to be fine.  All the people who want to use altcoins because it's faster and cheaper are already doing so, because they've had that option ever since altcoins appeared on exchanges.  All LN and atomic swaps will do, in regard to the altcoins that support it, is provide a safer option for those who wish to do that.  It will be better for the entire crypto-community once centralised exchanges aren't so heavily relied upon.  I'm sorry if you don't approve, because it's happening anyway.  No one is forcing you to use it, so I suggest you respect the fact that some people want to.  There's nothing you can do to stop them.

If you think BTC's speed and fees are so horrific and are genuinely convinced that Bitcoin is going to end because of Lightning, then clearly it's only prudent for you to sell every single satoshi you own and go find a new community to troll.  But we all know you won't, because you're just talking shit, like always.

He's also filing patents for his version of the block chain and lawyering up to sue anyone he can. He is trying to take over and control BCH by force and call himself the creator of the true bitcoin. If you take a look at his twitter posts you can clearly see this person is an angry hate filled psychopath. After watching his BBC interview I don't understand how anyone can get behind this guy. He is clearly a lier, angry, and evil. He is one of the most unlikeable people I have ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DCAC1j2HTY


Psychopathy: Symptoms, Signs and Causes

1. Superficial charm and glibness
2. Inflated sense of self-worth
3. Constant need for stimulation
4. Lying pathologically
5. Conning others; being manipulative
6. Lack of remorse or guilt
7. Shallow emotions
8. Callousness; lack of empathy
9. Using others (a parasitic lifestyle)
10. Poor control over behavior
11. Promiscuous sexual behavior
12. Behavioral problems early in life
13. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
14. Being impulsive
15. Being irresponsible
16. Blaming others and refusing to accept responsibility
17. Having several marital relationships
18. Delinquency when young
19. Revocation of conditional release
20. Criminal acts in several realms (criminal versatility)


He checks off just about every thing on this list.

That loser claimed to be Satoshi (but of course never bothered to sign a message from the genesis address..); he has no credibility and can't even write properly.

Craig is sick and needs immediate care , really.  while promoting for his bitcoin cash SV (shit version) he brings up all kind of fud and bullshit about dumping BTC for hashing power , then goes about flaws in SegWit that he will reveal next year on twitter , a few days later while is he losing the hash-war he signs a valid signature for Satoshi’s key from block no 9 telling the same bullshit about SegWit, without revealing  the actual preimage for the hash of that message, thinking that everyone is so stupid to take this signature for a proof that he is Satoshi.

all he does is spread fud/rumors that suit his interest, if he suddenly changes his mind and invest deeply in BTC you will see all kind of new behavior talking about how BTC is going to 1 million in 2 weeks.

Do not panic, BTC has some of the world best programmers/coders/developers on it's side. if anything was that bad , they would have fixed it long before Craig sees it in his dreams. 

I think, his statement can make panic, especially beginners, and that affects the crypto market.
if the battle between BCHABC vs BCHVS does not stop, then the bitcoin will fall deeper.

Will Bitcoin end when the bitcoin inventory is still left?
honestly, I was surprised by this prediction, if bitcoin will end next year, I think there will be a coin that replaces the position of bitcoin? Will ETH replace bitcoin?

He basically said, if I cannot get "my" version of BCH I am willing to take everything down - SAMSON OPTION

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Pretty sure mental institutions are full of people who made similar threats and did not have nuclear submarines for self protection LOL  

And that is why I would not want to own BCHSV, even if it wins the hashwar, because I would never feel safe. If he is successful now, he can do anything to BCHSV in the future. Blacklisting, freezing, enforce KYC, haircut, risk of going to zero in a mad hashwar, ?,?,? ........ really the idea of investing into a CSW coin gives me the willies, literally 

Craig Wright is a Psychopath. He displays all the classic symptoms. He uses fear to manipulate peoples emotions to get what he wants. I wouldn't be caught supporting anything this person is associated with. 

lol your soo funny.

the event happened august 2017... so use your eyes. dont use live data for a historic event thats already passed

its like politics.  recent stats show that tories polled the population and lost.
but history shows they passed the election
(using live data to explain history, just doesnt work)

history shows that when you were 1yo you wore a nappy. yep today you could show you have accepted that wearing boxers is to be expected. but doesnt mean that you didnt wear a nappy in the past.

yea i know what ur thinking. what does ur history of being a baby have to do with it.. well thats the point, you being a baby has nothing to do with bitcoin

how about go look at the stats of 2017..

oh and um yea.. people may update their nodes now because there now nothing to lose or gain because the decision is done and over with a year ago.. but if you look at the last 12 months of UXTO movements. segwit is no where near majority. majority of people just aint using it. even after a year.. yep. same ~35-40%... not 80-100

even funnier even sipa is still displaying legacy addresses for his donations and tips

but as i said in other topics.. stop meandering to turn things into social drama..

the topics is about someone saying about possibility of the end of bitcoin.
i mentioned about bitcoin, what could end it(being number 1). and craig

if you dont like it. ignore me and move on.

Use your eyes:

https://bitnodes.earn.com/nodes/live-map/


They're choosing right now.  Apart from 0.15.1, which wasn't quite full support, all of those clients support SegWit.  The only thing that's being bypassed here is the connection between your sanity and the real world.  

'Alternative facts', that is the first thing that comes in my mind when I hear him talk.
Unfortunatelly that has become a very popular strategy these days.

you just told he is not to be trusted - and that's your answer about Draig and Bitcoin.

schnorr is not to increase throughput
its actually when people no longer just do legacy transactions due to high fee's and instead need to use multisigs for LN. schnorr is there to attempt to shrink the bloat of (in the future) more popular used multisigs, which would reduce tx/block if schnorr was not used.

EG
imagine average tx was 250byte
multisig was 500byte

when multisig becomes more popular. LESS transactions could fit.
(easy math. legacy=upto 4k.. multisig only 2k)

so schnorr reduces the tx bytes to bring it down to the utility to normal legacy levels.. not to increase scaling.. just prevent decrease.

open a spreadsheet and do some math.

community didnt choose.
remember your love for "compatible" nodes. that dont need to upgrade.
that does not mean consensus occured, that means consensus got by passed as it didnt require an opt-in to vote yes
again you love that the core didnt need permission. you said it many times.
you spend a month yammring on about it.. no point continuing your "trust a dev campaign"

anyway
long story short.
craig and ver are just social dramatists and its real funny how some people want to avert peoples gaze away from real influencers (Devs and investor ownership control)
all this social drama stuff seems to just want to distract people away from the real causes of events in the hope it sends sheep to sleep long enough to not realise the real changes being made that really affect the bitcoin network

It can scale, and it already did with Segwit. That poisonous entities in this space have different opinions and knowingly block adoption isn't the fault of the developers.

There are no issues in terms of on-chain scaling, that's only how opposing parties see it. I won't say that high fees are ideal, but it's a convenient way to let the ecosystem get used to it, because who's going to pay miners when the block rewards aren't cutting it anymore? You know what makes Bitcoin mining still interesting today during this bear market? Its fees.

On top of that, with services using Schnorr, Bitcoin's throughput will increase significantly, which means that there will be more available blockspace without actually increasing the block size. This is scaling. Increasing the block size is a poor mans way of dealing with a problem.

Bitmain and Ver are balls deep into this space financially, while Craig The Scammer is in it with his mouth and ego. Paying attention to Craig is a convenient way to waste time.

Link?  Chances are, you either didn't understand my post or you're deliberately trying to twist the meaning of whatever it was I said.  There's nothing wrong with merchants diversifying, because that doesn't mean they've moved away from Bitcoin.  Show me a merchant that accepts all the major altcoins but not Bitcoin.  Assuming you can find one, I don't think they'll stay in business very long.

Other coins succeeding doesn't mean that Bitcoin is failing.  There's enough success to go around.  It's not realistic to expect one cryptocurrency to be perfect at everything.  Altcoins will naturally serve some niches in the market.  That's perfectly healthy.  Why fight it?



What's wrong with people using other coins?  Of course people use them.  I have no problem with that.  I'm looking forward to atomic swaps, as I've already explained to you on numerous occasions.  Why would I be looking forward to atomic swaps if I didn't want people using other coins?  Try to keep up.

You're the one saying that we shouldn't have LN because it would somehow promote other coins.  I'm the one saying it won't promote other coins any more than exchanges already do.  
You're the one saying Bitcoin is too slow and too expensive.  I'm the one saying it's not a problem because Bitcoin has the strongest security and network effects and it's still fast and cheap enough to be useful.
You're the one saying other coins being accepted by merchants is bad news for Bitcoin.  I'm the one saying "who cares?" because there's literally nothing wrong with that.  

Stop whining about insults and come up with better arguments.  Or better yet, click that 'ignore' button you're so fond of pointing out lately.  I'm going to keep shooting down your FUD all the while you continue to make that such an easy task by being such a lousy debater.


Speaking of lousy arguments:



It can scale, but not by merely tinkering with the blocksize and pretending that somehow fixes everything.  It doesn't.  And there are costs for doing that.



Users and miners determine consensus.  It cannot be "backtracked" (did you get bored of saying "bypassed"?) because that's something that can only happen in your fantasy la-la-land.



If the community wished for something different, they'd be running different code.  You're the one who is ignoring community wishes because you don't respect the choice the community has already made.

nope bitpay and coinbases influence was due to having owners DCG.CO

DCG want LN (an independant network) for multiple coins.
they paid blockstream to invent segwit.. community said no from november 16-summer 17
so they paid BLOQ for segwitx2. they paid samson mow, luke jr and others for UASF to push segwit through as mandatory

if you follow the money you will see it.
ver and wright are just social face drama. and not actual influencers
which again is why i find it funny that fingers get pointed as such drama queen, instead of people actually being aware of the reality.

nope. i promote bitcoin. but i will discredit developers who wish to mess negatively with the bitcoin network
you know.
the devs that say bitcoins blockchain cant scale
the devs that backtrack out of consensus
the devs that chang code for personal benefit while ignoring community wishes

if you separate certain devs from the term "bitcoin" and see the concern for the network vs devs. you will understand that i am promoting the network but discrediting certain devs.

its these devs that have caused the issues such as onchain scaling delays, fee wars and other things.

remember devs are temporary, devs are replacable. there is no point defending a dev and letting them mess with the network because you want to "trust a dev" that just shows you care more for a dev than for the network

highlighting the issues the network has is not discrediting it.
its to raise awareness and to hope people wake up and start being concerned about the network issues to hopefully try to push it to get them sorted. to improve bitcoin..

but hey. those that play the "hug and defend a dev" games will always continue to distract people from the real causes of issues and point fingers to social dramatists as the cause

Yep, I think you nailed it.

Craig Wright is Wrong!

If you are the creator of Bitcoin, how come you tell so much about it? why let the whole world know you?

As I can see, the real satoshi is so humble with a japanese culture with him, not a scumbag who tries to scam people.