Topic: Dreaming about open sourcing an ASIC chip - page 2. (Read 2220 times)

If I wished to give something back to the community, it would not be 'low-nm' mining chips.

I think it would be both cool and effective to have individuals who need heat for one think or another (like a hot water pot or rice cooker) be able to mine and have this class form the backbone of distributed crypto-currency hashing (for those distributed crypto-currencies which use massive hashing as a backing.)

What I would see happening in this case is that people doing mining are not really even thinking much about power.  It is either otherwise wasted, or so small and expense in their personal economics that it is written off.  Large commercial mining operations need to compete against in an areana where they are at a dis-advantage on a major expense.

In that case, it makes more sense to focus on chip packaging designs than on the core fab technology.

Nope it was assembly price/bulk assembly.

UK VAT is 20% whether it's individual pieces or the whole product. Think about it, the materials would be cheaper than the final product so the VAT on materials is LOWER than the VAT on the finished product. Doh.

Looks legit!

I can do it for 2M $ in 4 weeks. I'll send you my Paypal address. Just be sure to include your details for the invoice

Did they even state how much they are looking for?

Well, you go ahead and start designing an ASIC chip with low-nm. Something like 28nm or even lower.

Then, with your money, you order a run of 100,000 chips.

Make a working miner with these chips, that does maybe 100 GH/s. Sell them at cost, or give them away. (If you do this, please remember me, I will be happy to receive a sample unit.) Make a small unit that does 10 GH/s, and a medium unit that does 50 GH/s, and a large unit that does 100 GH/s. Numbers are all examples, you use whatever numbers seem appropriate when the time comes.

Release the source code, the software, the schematics, everything, and how to use the chips.

Then allow people to order just the raw chips from you, you order from your foundry.

People will receive the chips, and they also order separately all the other parts from everywhere else.

You keep supplying chips as long as people keep ordering. The foundry will not care as long as they keep getting paid. You could make chips for the next 10 years, and that would be a worthwhile endeavor because it will be 10 years of bitcoin hashing that will drive difficulty to the stratosphere and secure the network and all that hashing power is distributed world-wide, in 100 countries, in all 7 continents.

Then your next project is to work on lower-nm chips, like 10nm or even lower.

Look at your typical calculator. They still make the chips, but they're not much smaller compared to 10 years ago. I mean, the calculator can be small, but it has to be large enough to hold in your hand to be practical to use.

You just need ASIC chips that do more than any GPU or FGPA can ever do, and maybe keep making the next generation as soon as you can afford to.

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Actually, find a good designer in your own country and at the same time shop around in china for a chip factory with some basic specs of manufacturing requirements from the designer, then get the final design and pump out the prototypes. the problem with ASIC is that to get the best grade of power efficient to hash cracking ratio you need to use more and more complex techniques in that process which makes it harder to just 'do it yourself'. On the other hand, if you look at things like the Raspberry Pie boards, they wanted to originally manufacture in the UK but couldn't because ultimately in VAT it cost more to import each component then have them sent to china and then imported as a whole, they some how got around this later on but I guess it was only due to price drops in demand that made it more feasible.

So ultimately, you could come up with an 'open source' design but chances are the design wouldn't matter if it was open source as it's access to manufacturing and distribution is the difficult bit.

Go China contact any Chip Designer there  that is all .I think .

Let's suppose that i get rich one day. (This is an hypothetical me, i'm nowhere near that, so don't pm me trying to scam me). Let's say that i have 2M$ (20kBTC). I have all invested into Bitcoin (because i'm crazy) and i want the Bitcoin network to be as strong as possible. I decide that i need to create and to open source to the community a low-nm ASIC chip. I'm ready to invest up to 1M$ into it.

I do that for free, because thanks to Bitcoin i'm rich and i want to give it back to the community.

Do you think that this will actually happen?
If you own that much, why don't you do it?
Is 1M$ nothing in this business?