Topic: "Drone Attack That Crippled Largest Saudi Oil Processing Facility" (Read 348 times)

"Iranian Oil Tanker Struck By 2 Missiles Near Saudi Port"

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/iranian-oil-tanker-struck-2-missiles-near-saudi-port

The Saudi government fingered the cause of the attack to Iran,  according to some news I read online Iran has been threatening Saudi for some while,  and with the recent attack Saudi Arabia had bought military ammunition worth billions of dollars to defend herself  from such attack in future

Houthi Rebels Take over 2,000 Saudi Prisoners" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rehaeyZRI28

Ba-hahaha.

Lol!  The Saudi's cannot even beat Yemen which is one of the poorest countries in the world, and they are fighting dirty as hell targeting civilians, civilian food supplies, using banned weapons, etc, etc.  Not only that but they have billions of dollars worth of U.S. military hardware, aerial re-fueling support, missile defense systems (which clearly don't work for shit), etc, etc.

It's not so much that the Saudi's are a joke (which they are), but rather that it is damn difficult to defeat a nation when the peeps know that your goals are genocidal and they are dead meat if they give up.

Looks also like there are some decent people in Saudi Arabia who are doing their part to thwart pure evil from prevailing.  God bless them!

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They have the 'tell a big enough lie often enough' thing going with Iran and (((they))) pretty much own the media so it is all anyone ever hears.

I've not seen anything seriously bad that Iran has done ever, and they certainly don't pose a threat or competition to me.  Or to almost any other American.  This is all about Israel once again using American blood and treasure to do their bidding.  Plain and simple.  When you 'control the money supply of a nation' as (((they))) do via the Federal Reserve and income taxes, you can do these things.

Zionist Israel own most of U.S. politicians through operations like Epstein's pedo ring so they get what they want and can do what they want which is to use America like a bitch.  It will continue on until we are used up then they'll "give us communism" and switch hosts to China.  (((They))) have been setting it up for decades.

Losing a war outright would probably trip the U.S. into the communism which has been set up, and we very well could lose a war decisively to Iran if they are playing the defensive role which obviously they would be.  Especially if they got support from China.  Israel could well use this as the juncture where they switch hosts.  They can easily make us lose almost any war.  And they use national resentment and the very real antisemitism that backstabbing provokes in order to re-populate 'the promised land' with 'the chosen people.'  That's what happened in Germany.  Even more evil, the Zionists took the Jews they wanted and let the poor and old ones die back in the homeland.

Yael Kushner (formerly Ivanka Trump) is having her kids learn Chinese not because China is an 'upcoming superpower'.  It's because her people will in the future be telling them what countries to attack just as they are telling American who to attack now.

+1 to this.

If you want to stop a rogue state before it becomes an issue, you attempt to neutralize the issue with supporting other leaders, crippling the government by attacking them in regards to sanctions and forming an international coalition to ensure that these sanctions aren't let up.

Small scale wars and assassinations could work BUT ONLY if there is another person who would be able to take their place who is popular among the people. You can't just take a leader out and then pray that someone out sprouts up out of nowhere.

I prefer not to go to war, but the same was true during the very beginning of World War Two. WW2 could have been avoided with a fairly small military action against Germany. Instead, the war escalated into something that required millions of troops and resulted in millions of deaths.

A military action against Iran would show that further escalation will not go unpunished, and that further escalation will not result in sanctions being removed. The Saudis cannot beat Iran in a war cleanly by themselves so the US will need to at least play a role in any military action against Iran.

To have an interesting discussion it's fundamental to have a common shared and agreed definition of the situation with an historic perspective.

let's start

1. who are the houthis?


Congratulations !

I guess this is one reason why Iran have strict rules about drones and imprisoned those Aussie "online influencers", coz they know drones are quite potent. 

I find the insider theory plausible though. Someone definitely would have benefited from the price increase.

It was a drone attack so basically it could have been everyone.

Besides the geo-political implications, this time we also have huge economical interest because saudia arabia is the 2nd largest oil producer with 15% of global output.

The oil price went ballistic when markets opened on monday and pumped 20% on the peak.
We had call options that were worthless on friday becoming worth hundred of millons on monday.


The attack itself should have been very cheap in comparison (drones attached with explosives - unseen by radar)

Well the Saudis have said that they're going to be able to return to normal output rather quickly, so I'm expecting Crude to go down on the news rather quickly. As people were freaking out that we were going to lose 50 percent of the largest oil producer.

I think this was Iran, I don't think anyone else have the machinery to do something like this.

I hate to selfishly say that I hope for oil jobs to surge but this would be a great time for me for oil jobs to surge..
It's about time to go on another adventure..

Made a nice profit on oil stocks.

Ready for the next news/crisis I can profit from

The only reason I think this can't be the Yemeni groups is due to the amount of precision present in these strikes. And the location of the strikes themself. Just by looking at where the strikes are on each item, it looks as if the missiles came from Iran/Iraq area.

There are some intelligence experts stating that this could still be Yemeni groups, but they would've had to increase their tech drastically since their last attack on the Saudi airport.

^^ Trump statements are volatile when it comes to International-Geo politics.


But what if possibility A is true and the situation gets worse after this.. Wild guess..

USA, Saudis puts pressure on Iran, Nato joins them. Iran gets into a corner, Russians comes into game play later joined by Chinese. Another regional power India is not powerful, so she would like to keep her Non-Alignment stance on a loop which is hard because she has one retarded cousin.

Hallelujah!!

@theymos I’ll agree we cannot reach a conclusion till there’s concrete evidence which proves that Iran is responsible for this bombing, however latest news reports have already declared Iran as guilty of bombing Saudis Oil facility. While Trump has remained calm and not declared war yet, how long do you think he’ll wait before he retaliates as Iran officials have now refused to meet with US officials further fueling tensions between the two nations.

Sources: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/17/middleeast/saudi-attack-iran-base-intl/index.html

https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/iran-s-khamenei-rules-out-us-talks-at-any-level-gulf-tensions-28056

I haven't yet decided what I think really happened. It's hard to tell. I can never help but think that these things might be false flag attacks, but in this case it really could've been Iran and/or Yemeni groups (who the Saudis have been massacring) as US intelligence claims.

So far, I was impressed by Trump's moderate response: "The Saudis want very much for us to protect them, but I say, well, [...] that was an attack on Saudi Arabia, that wasn't an attack on us," "I'm not looking to get into new conflict," & "I don't want war with anyone." Sometimes he becomes super hawkish overnight, though, so we'll see how it goes.

I'm going with a 9/11 type event, aka inside job false flag

Could be a pearl harbor/911 for them or a USS Liberty type deal..

Who is behind the attack though?

Saudi Arabia is 3rd in defense spending, only behind the US and China.  They are first per capita by far spending more than 3x the US.  With a small country and not much force projection, they have top notch defense systems including air defense.  They have the newest version of the patriot missile air defense system and current gen radar systems from the US.  Even though the country isn't that big, much of it is barren desert.  They concentrate their defenses around cities and oil industry.  Theres no way this kind of attack happened as advertised.

Two possibilities here:

A.  They let the attack happen as reasoning for an expanded operation against Iranian interests.
B. US military technology is a major ripoff and not capable of carrying out basic functions.