Topic: Drones can &#039;get you&#039; in more than one way! (Read 1533 times)

Quote from: niothor on July 17, 2014, 10:16:02 AM

If they are spying me from 1000 feets away i wouldnt think twice to shot them down from 1200 feets away with a barret m82 sniper rifle.

In 10 years there will be spying (if they want) from 10 km and see how slices of salami you have on your pizza.
Good luck targeting something at that distance.

I really don't get why people have so much against those drones...

I am not against till those drones are not shooting at me or recording my privacy for some global network (yes Aiden Pierce, some network like ctOS).

Reading through these threads I'm starting to believe the more people are concerned about their privacy the more they are likely to have something to hide from the law and doing something illegal in their basement.

Hue hue. I am not hiding anything but I don't want some drone to fly over my place and record through the window me while doing romances to my gf :-) for example.

I don't want drones to became flying cctvs which will record you while you are walking to a place of work or things like that.
It is not because I have something to hide it is because people need privacy to stay in good mental health conditions :-)

But like I told before I see many good ways of how the drones can be used.

I'm always looking at the bright side...

I had a friend who was accused by his ex girlfriend of rape and robbery.
He was saved by a camera that recorded him 100 km away in another town at the time of the supposed crime.

For a while after this I even took the habit of smiling and waving at security cameras at atm , gas station and even when entering a mall.

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Quote from: roslinpl on July 17, 2014, 10:11:36 AM

Quote from: Jason on July 16, 2014, 09:57:50 PM

If they are spying me from 1000 feets away i wouldnt think twice to shot them down from 1200 feets away with a barret m82 sniper rifle.

In 10 years there will be spying (if they want) from 10 km and see how slices of salami you have on your pizza.
Good luck targeting something at that distance.

I really don't get why people have so much against those drones...

I am not against till those drones are not shooting at me or recording my privacy for some global network (yes Aiden Pierce, some network like ctOS).

Reading through these threads I'm starting to believe the more people are concerned about their privacy the more they are likely to have something to hide from the law and doing something illegal in their basement.

Hue hue. I am not hiding anything but I don't want some drone to fly over my place and record through the window me while doing romances to my gf :-) for example.

I don't want drones to became flying cctvs which will record you while you are walking to a place of work or things like that.
It is not because I have something to hide it is because people need privacy to stay in good mental health conditions :-)

But like I told before I see many good ways of how the drones can be used.

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Quote from: RodeoX on July 16, 2014, 09:51:59 AM

Countermeasures:

http://www.instructables.com/id/RF-Jammer/
Something like this for your rooftop.

The jammer you reference above won't work on most drones. Many (most?) consumer-type drones operate in the 2.4 GHz band, which is far above where that jammer operates. Instead, you'll want to grab one of the cheap Chinese jammers for the wifi band and use it. If you are based in the US beware that the US government is starting to crack down on RF jammers imported into the country and is even talking about going after consumers:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/fcc-levels-record-fine-against-chinese-maker-of-cellphone-jammers-1403205812

Still, the legal risks are probably much lower than the risk of firing a gun at one of these unless you live in a rural area where discharge of firearms is not prohibited.

I kinda thought the frequency would be wrong. But in concept I think jamming with a dirty, broad spectrum broadcast would be your best countermeasure. It would be very hard to detect compared to a shotgun blast.
If you really knew what you were doing you might even be able to connect to the datastream from the camera. Then you could get a look at the drone operators when they recover the bird. This was done to U.S. drones like the MQ-9. If I remember correctly, it could be done cheaply with off the shelf gear.

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Quote from: roslinpl on July 17, 2014, 10:11:36 AM

If they are spying me from 1000 feets away i wouldnt think twice to shot them down from 1200 feets away with a barret m82 sniper rifle.

In 10 years there will be spying (if they want) from 10 km and see how slices of salami you have on your pizza.
Good luck targeting something at that distance.

I really don't get why people have so much against those drones...

I am not against till those drones are not shooting at me or recording my privacy for some global network (yes Aiden Pierce, some network like ctOS).

Reading through these threads I'm starting to believe the more people are concerned about their privacy the more they are likely to have something to hide from the law and doing something illegal in their basement.

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If they are spying me from 1000 feets away i wouldnt think twice to shot them down from 1200 feets away with a barret m82 sniper rifle.

In 10 years there will be spying (if they want) from 10 km and see how slices of salami you have on your pizza.
Good luck targeting something at that distance.

I really don't get why people have so much against those drones...

I am not against till those drones are not shooting at me or recording my privacy for some global network (yes Aiden Pierce, some network like ctOS).

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Quote from: RodeoX on July 16, 2014, 09:51:59 AM

If they are spying me from 1000 feets away i wouldnt think twice to shot them down from 1200 feets away with a barret m82 sniper rifle.

In 10 years there will be spying (if they want) from 10 km and see how slices of salami you have on your pizza.
Good luck targeting something at that distance.

I really don't get why people have so much against those drones...

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Good luck shooting down a drone...
An RC plane is tough enough to hit with a shotgun, much less with a rifle at a greater distance...

The other problem is determining the distance, especially when you don't know the relative size...

Save your ammo and if you're really afraid of drones then start looking into powerful lasers and fine optics...

I love the drone delivery idea! I would love to open a drone-delivery pizza shop and get that first mover advantage!

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If they are spying me from 1000 feets away i wouldnt think twice to shot them down from 1200 feets away with a barret m82 sniper rifle.

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Countermeasures:

http://www.instructables.com/id/RF-Jammer/
Something like this for your rooftop.

The jammer you reference above won't work on most drones. Many (most?) consumer-type drones operate in the 2.4 GHz band, which is far above where that jammer operates. Instead, you'll want to grab one of the cheap Chinese jammers for the wifi band and use it. If you are based in the US beware that the US government is starting to crack down on RF jammers imported into the country and is even talking about going after consumers:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/fcc-levels-record-fine-against-chinese-maker-of-cellphone-jammers-1403205812

Still, the legal risks are probably much lower than the risk of firing a gun at one of these unless you live in a rural area where discharge of firearms is not prohibited.

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Quote from: zolace on July 16, 2014, 11:10:06 AM

We've come to a point that except for when you are in your bathroom...you should understand that you are being watched.

We still need NEVER make that easy, and we can make it very expensive for their privacy violations. I intentionally do many transactions in cash, especially those over $10K, and then delay my responses.

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We've come to a point that except for when you are in your bathroom...you should understand that you are being watched.

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Quote from: cryptasm on July 16, 2014, 11:05:37 AM

Quote from: niothor on July 16, 2014, 11:02:05 AM

Quote from: cryptasm on July 16, 2014, 10:54:41 AM

Yeah can't really see drones as being a good thing, I doubt the general public will be allowed to use them without a license.

Why not?
Having a drone deliver packages and reducing traffic in the streets not to mention delays in delivery?
You have a flat tire , no spare and you can call a drone service to deliver you a spare rather than waiting for hours for a free mechanic? Or anything else than you run out of or broke down?
Rather than spending hours each day walking around inspecting your farm and its fence you can send a drone to do that and you check the videos back home ?

Sure there are lots of positive reasons for drones but like most technology I can only see them being used against us eventually. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic Grin

So computers and bitcoin are used only against people?

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Quote from: niothor on July 16, 2014, 11:02:05 AM

Quote from: cryptasm on July 16, 2014, 10:54:41 AM

Yeah can't really see drones as being a good thing, I doubt the general public will be allowed to use them without a license.

Why not?
Having a drone deliver packages and reducing traffic in the streets not to mention delays in delivery?
You have a flat tire , no spare and you can call a drone service to deliver you a spare rather than waiting for hours for a free mechanic? Or anything else than you run out of or broke down?
Rather than spending hours each day walking around inspecting your farm and its fence you can send a drone to do that and you check the videos back home ?

Sure there are lots of positive reasons for drones but like most technology I can only see them being used against us eventually. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic Grin

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Quote from: cryptasm on July 16, 2014, 10:54:41 AM

Yeah can't really see drones as being a good thing, I doubt the general public will be allowed to use them without a license.

Why not?
Having a drone deliver packages and reducing traffic in the streets not to mention delays in delivery?
You have a flat tire , no spare and you can call a drone service to deliver you a spare rather than waiting for hours for a free mechanic? Or anything else than you run out of or broke down?
Rather than spending hours each day walking around inspecting your farm and its fence you can send a drone to do that and you check the videos back home ?

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Yeah can't really see drones as being a good thing, I doubt the general public will be allowed to use them without a license.

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Quote from: umair127 on July 16, 2014, 10:37:58 AM

Quote from: sana8410 on July 16, 2014, 09:34:25 AM

Quote from: umair127 on July 16, 2014, 09:26:44 AM

Quote from: umair127 on July 16, 2014, 10:37:58 AM

I wonder how long it will be before people start pulling their guns out and shooting down the drones? These gun-nuts feel threaten by weather balloons.

Haha. I am sure that it will happen one day. If the drone will get too close to me it will get a punch too :-)
But like I told before atm I don't see any flying rigs around :-)

I will shoot a drone over my property in a heartbeat "IF" I see it, and it is within range.

....and I have no doubt umair you would shoot some poor man knocking on your door asking for a glass of water! lol

Not unless he had killed our outdoor dogs, and "IF" he had NOT, we would know he was coming before he arrived. I have never shot at a plane flying over my property, however, an uninvited drone is burned toast.

And that is because you can't shot an airplane but you can shot a drone.
You seem to act like a 8yo bully.

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Quote from: sana8410 on July 16, 2014, 09:34:25 AM

Quote from: umair127 on July 16, 2014, 09:26:44 AM

Quote from: Lethn on July 16, 2014, 09:28:58 AM

I wonder how long it will be before people start pulling their guns out and shooting down the drones? These gun-nuts feel threaten by weather balloons.

Haha. I am sure that it will happen one day. If the drone will get too close to me it will get a punch too :-)
But like I told before atm I don't see any flying rigs around :-)

I will shoot a drone over my property in a heartbeat "IF" I see it, and it is within range.

....and I have no doubt umair you would shoot some poor man knocking on your door asking for a glass of water! lol

Not unless he had killed our outdoor dogs, and "IF" he had NOT, we would know he was coming before he arrived. I have never shot at a plane flying over my property, however, an uninvited drone is burned toast.

Good policy Umair.

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Quote from: sana8410 on July 16, 2014, 09:34:25 AM

I wonder how long it will be before people start pulling their guns out and shooting down the drones? These gun-nuts feel threaten by weather balloons.

Haha. I am sure that it will happen one day. If the drone will get too close to me it will get a punch too :-)
But like I told before atm I don't see any flying rigs around :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP33crds1tI

I also think I just realised how to make the American army waste all their ammunition if they ever invade us.

Send 10000 drones to the military area and wait few hours Cheesy

then you can takeover whole area with no bulletproof vest

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Quote from: umair127 on July 16, 2014, 09:26:44 AM