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Topic: Drop from $60k to $30k was part of bull run cycle? (Read 505 times)

legendary
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Easy to say in hindsight.

But fact of the matter is that before it happened, or ex ante, no one could have told that this wasn't a bearish move.

This is why TA doesn't work. You could look for patterns all you want, but at the end of the day, how do you recognise whether or not a particular pattern is legitimate or actually noise in the larger picture? It simply doesn't work out that way. Markets are virtually random distributions of outcomes.
Basically just look at the price and see it dropping, if it is dropping then it means it will go up. I know that may sound weird to some people, but going down can be only reversed to going up, sure it could keep going down, but that doesn't change the fact that it will eventually go up.

We saw the price going down, and we realized that it could be back to 60k one day, that "one day" could be any day, it could be tomorrow or it could be 2022 or even later, but it WILL happen one day. That is why we started to buy as much as we can, since making 2x profit is a great deal, if I do it in a year then I made 100% profit in a year, if I do it in 2 years that is 50% a year which is still good, if I do it in 3 years that is 33% which is still quite awesome, even in 4 years that is 25% and very nice. So, long story short we are talking about something that is quite easy to guess why we bought.
hero member
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Easy to say in hindsight.

But fact of the matter is that before it happened, or ex ante, no one could have told that this wasn't a bearish move.

This is why TA doesn't work. You could look for patterns all you want, but at the end of the day, how do you recognise whether or not a particular pattern is legitimate or actually noise in the larger picture? It simply doesn't work out that way. Markets are virtually random distributions of outcomes.
sr. member
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There is always manipulation (like what we had in the past couple of months) during big bull runs and the bigger the manipulation the stronger the signal for the next big leg up. It is also a way to get the market ready for the bigger rise. Imagine if price reached $150k in April right after it reached $60k, that would have been a bubble. But now that the correction and manipulation and the reverse bubble occurred the market is ready to reach $150k in August and $300k by December and $500k by first quarter next year.

It's too early to suggest figures like 150k by the end of August. I personally do not know what could be the possible target of this bull season. To keep it simple I analyzed the market on day by day basis or week by week basis and do not recommend to give targets after 3 months or for 6 months because no one actually knows what could be the price of Bitcoin in this time duration.
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Cryptocurrency market always moves on a cyclic pattern. So, a drop is a indication for the people to invest. The recovery of bitcoin has now happened. People who sold at the right time on the peak will be now enjoying the profit through the buyback at the bottom.

When the price of bitcoin marked it ATH above $60k there were more price predictions of bitcoin price reaching $100k and more at the earliest. Soon the market dropped as a result of some negative news and once again it is bouncing.

The current bitcoin cycle has had a significant impact on the growth of other altcoins. I see the correlation is very closely related to pumping some other altcoins after bitcoin broke $42,000. a lot of bitcoin prices are predicted to break through $100,000 in the fourth quarter of this year, let's see and observe future growth.
legendary
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There is always manipulation (like what we had in the past couple of months) during big bull runs and the bigger the manipulation the stronger the signal for the next big leg up. It is also a way to get the market ready for the bigger rise. Imagine if price reached $150k in April right after it reached $60k, that would have been a bubble. But now that the correction and manipulation and the reverse bubble occurred the market is ready to reach $150k in August and $300k by December and $500k by first quarter next year.

Yeah, I would assume people would stop being so mad about manipulation. It works both ways and if we enjoy the moving up as a result from manipulation, it goes to assume we should also expect a moving down afterwards.

You're right about the bubble that we should be glad didn't happen. 150k in august sounds pretty crazy but I guess that's not impossible.
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If before the end of his year, the bitcoin price can be at $100k, that can make people out there amaze because they will not believe that is really happening to bitcoin and will start to invest in bitcoin like the other.
We need to accept the fact that the price of Bitcoin will not keep on rising indefinitely and if the price goes above $100k during this run it is well and good but you need to expect huge sell off as institutional investors have invested billions expecting to make a huge profit and you cannot expect them to hold the coins without booking the profit. So the chances are slim to stay above $100,000 even if it reaches them during this bull run.
Accepting is not easy, while we always want to see the price still increase. Sometimes, we forget that after the price increases, the price will go back for a while and stay for some time before the price will have another rally to the next high price. That is what we have always seen so far and that situation will be like that, so we need to prepare for any situation and condition so we know what we need to do based on the current situation. If the price increases step by step, that can trigger the bull run to come again and people can prepare for the coming. But we know that the price will not always be like that and sometimes, the price can increase higher without we can prepare. But I am positive to see the price will reach $100,000 for the rest of this year or next year.
legendary
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If before the end of his year, the bitcoin price can be at $100k, that can make people out there amaze because they will not believe that is really happening to bitcoin and will start to invest in bitcoin like the other.
We need to accept the fact that the price of Bitcoin will not keep on rising indefinitely and if the price goes above $100k during this run it is well and good but you need to expect huge sell off as institutional investors have invested billions expecting to make a huge profit and you cannot expect them to hold the coins without booking the profit. So the chances are slim to stay above $100,000 even if it reaches them during this bull run.
legendary
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Cryptocurrency market always moves on a cyclic pattern. So, a drop is a indication for the people to invest. The recovery of bitcoin has now happened. People who sold at the right time on the peak will be now enjoying the profit through the buyback at the bottom.

When the price of bitcoin marked it ATH above $60k there were more price predictions of bitcoin price reaching $100k and more at the earliest. Soon the market dropped as a result of some negative news and once again it is bouncing.
hero member
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It seems what @OP show in the image is happening now as the price is back to $44k. If this is really a bull run, we will be very happy because the price will rise. But I am worried how deep the price will make a correction later after hit the next ATH because, in the previous correction, the price is down by half. Still, that makes us prepare for anything and do not forget to take profit before the moment is finished because that will make us wait for some time.
It's just the nature of bitcoin's price movement, -50% down and then comeback and make a new all time high. So yes, it's better to prepare for the worst or the better, get your profits if we reach a new all time high or higher than $64k and then see how it goes.
The correction is coming again as we see the price now is at $43k. Hopefully, it is just a weekend correction and will be back increased in the next week. The increases yesterday gives me a nice profit although not much and this correction is also gives me profit but now, I am out from the market as I do not know how long the correction will end.

If before the end of his year, the bitcoin price can be at $100k, that can make people out there amaze because they will not believe that is really happening to bitcoin and will start to invest in bitcoin like the other.

There are a lot of predictions that we can reach $100k before the end of the year. But hell yeah, we can still be at awe when we eventually see the price hitting 6 digits for the first time.
That time will come but we need to have more patience because it needs more support that can lift the price to increase. Once the price reaches $100k, especially before the end of the year, that will be a good moment for us to sell some bitcoin and enjoy the profit.
hero member
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It seems what @OP show in the image is happening now as the price is back to $44k. If this is really a bull run, we will be very happy because the price will rise. But I am worried how deep the price will make a correction later after hit the next ATH because, in the previous correction, the price is down by half. Still, that makes us prepare for anything and do not forget to take profit before the moment is finished because that will make us wait for some time.

It's just the nature of bitcoin's price movement, -50% down and then comeback and make a new all time high. So yes, it's better to prepare for the worst or the better, get your profits if we reach a new all time high or higher than $64k and then see how it goes.

If before the end of his year, the bitcoin price can be at $100k, that can make people out there amaze because they will not believe that is really happening to bitcoin and will start to invest in bitcoin like the other.

There are a lot of predictions that we can reach $100k before the end of the year. But hell yeah, we can still be at awe when we eventually see the price hitting 6 digits for the first time.
hero member
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It seems what @OP show in the image is happening now as the price is back to $44k. If this is really a bull run, we will be very happy because the price will rise. But I am worried how deep the price will make a correction later after hit the next ATH because, in the previous correction, the price is down by half. Still, that makes us prepare for anything and do not forget to take profit before the moment is finished because that will make us wait for some time.

If before the end of his year, the bitcoin price can be at $100k, that can make people out there amaze because they will not believe that is really happening to bitcoin and will start to invest in bitcoin like the other.
legendary
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There is always manipulation (like what we had in the past couple of months) during big bull runs and the bigger the manipulation the stronger the signal for the next big leg up. It is also a way to get the market ready for the bigger rise. Imagine if price reached $150k in April right after it reached $60k, that would have been a bubble. But now that the correction and manipulation and the reverse bubble occurred the market is ready to reach $150k in August and $300k by December and $500k by first quarter next year.
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Everyone says different things about this. Some people were claiming that we were still in the bear market when the price was around $30k. And some people (like me) claimed that it was the bear market we were in. And now it looks like we're out of it. But maybe I'm wrong and the price will come down to $30k again soon.
In my opinion, there is no longer any difference what to call this current state of the cryptocurrency market. The main thing is that the prices for cryptocurrency have now been constantly growing at a fast pace for several days. I have not yet found a real reason why this could be caused. It is also surprising that only the first half of August, at this time, the cryptocurrency market has probably never soared before. This usually happens in the fall, and then somewhere from October. What will happen to prices in the fall, if we are already witnessing such an increase? However, it could just be a short-term bullish impulse. Let's see what will happen next.
hero member
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It's easy to attribute something to a pattern after the fact.

I think that a lot of people, institutional or otherwise, already wrote of the remainder of the current bull run ages ago, and they used similar timing arguments as to this "looked like a dead cat's bounce".

Obviously, it does seem like that the bullish sentiment is still significant, and with so much liquidity in the world economy today this is really not surprising. Sometimes, one does need to look at longer term trends and market fundamentals rather than dwell on short term indicators.
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From a technical analysis of charts it's correct to say that these  markets are at a stage of accumulating momentum to go onto the upside, and with how charts are presented in the OP, the fibonacchi levels have played out well reaching the 88 and 76 levels to continue the uptrend. That $30k level has also been a strong support area which keeps pushing price up and should we break $43k, $45k then I have no doubt that we could be looking at a new higher high than previously recorded.


Today bitcoin price rose more than 6%, transaction volume also continued to rise, this shows that the market will continue to move positively, I'm sure if the price can reach $45k it will continue to rise and maybe the end of the year can make a new ATH.
We’re on the rising cycle again and I also believe that the dumped price was part of the market correction and now its time for recovery. We can always expect the price to go down, because we can’t take a better future without experiencing it and the dump balances the whole market. Bitcoin is aiming for new all time high, it slowly getting to that price position.
sr. member
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This chart looks really accurate, as the Twitter user said, it is a bitcoin cycle indicator. It shows the different phases of the cycle for Bitcoin since the beginning.
Another thing that I am surprised about here and amaze because of using a Fibonacci retracement and extension which will help to identify a pullback of a certain asset or best idea for price level for taking profits.

Currently, if we will base on the chart, we are in the Mania Phase, which is expecting to happen to start this month until the month of September.

What are your thoughts?

https://twitter.com/misconfig_exe/status/1408544229173858305/photo/1

If this trend goes straight way up high, there's no way for the bear market to create a strong holds for its resistance.
Another possible halving will soon happens, and with an unexpected time we will able to witness several pumps. However, day traders and short term holders will still possible causes slight dumps but we shouldn't be afraid on that because we already foreseen the market capabilities.
hero member
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I'm not worried of course because the downturn is part of the usual market cycle, with a drop to $29k as low as I think it's the best buy and not listening to bitcoin going to a bottom of $20k but for sure I will stick with the bitcoin handle at the moment, even i'm a little bit believer in some speculations about bitcoin in the end later i think it will be a big surprise whether we will be profitable big or not.
At least waiting for ATH before his $64k is the first goal.
Same here. I never worry about the potential of bitcoin to be reaching big values in near future hence even I am just watching the markets were correcting from ATH to as low as $28k levels, I remained confident about bouncing back of bitcoin markets at any time soon. And right now we are witnessing bitcoin market is appreciating slowly which might get intensified in coming weeks and in that way we might be having a new ATH in coming months.

Some people might have got panic when they are watching market is correcting up to 50% from its all-time high because they might not have seen such a big fall in any other markets but they might not aware of the fact that this kind of corrections are most commonly happening in bitcoin markets.
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I do not really criticize the falls because it allows us to buy cheaper, and I do not get excited for the increases neither because it just means it is good for that moment but as I am a long term investor I am not planning on selling the coins I am holding so it could be 64k or 100k but it wouldn't matter to me at all since I am not selling. Just stay calm and eventually bitcoin will be so much higher, it will have huge drops during that same period as well but ignore them and keep holding.
I'm not worried of course because the downturn is part of the usual market cycle, with a drop to $29k as low as I think it's the best buy and not listening to bitcoin going to a bottom of $20k but for sure I will stick with the bitcoin handle at the moment, even i'm a little bit believer in some speculations about bitcoin in the end later i think it will be a big surprise whether we will be profitable big or not.
At least waiting for ATH before his $64k is the first goal.
full member
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From a technical analysis of charts it's correct to say that these  markets are at a stage of accumulating momentum to go onto the upside, and with how charts are presented in the OP, the fibonacchi levels have played out well reaching the 88 and 76 levels to continue the uptrend. That $30k level has also been a strong support area which keeps pushing price up and should we break $43k, $45k then I have no doubt that we could be looking at a new higher high than previously recorded.


Today bitcoin price rose more than 6%, transaction volume also continued to rise, this shows that the market will continue to move positively, I'm sure if the price can reach $45k it will continue to rise and maybe the end of the year can make a new ATH.
legendary
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I guess when you look at the bigger picture, without a drop there is no increase, did we reached 20k as ATH back in 2017? Yes we did, then did we dropped to as low as 3k? Yes we did. Then did we reached 64k after that? Yes we did. Which all shows you that bitcoin could increase and decrease in cycles but in the end it is always going higher and higher, which I believe it will do once again.

I do not really criticize the falls because it allows us to buy cheaper, and I do not get excited for the increases neither because it just means it is good for that moment but as I am a long term investor I am not planning on selling the coins I am holding so it could be 64k or 100k but it wouldn't matter to me at all since I am not selling. Just stay calm and eventually bitcoin will be so much higher, it will have huge drops during that same period as well but ignore them and keep holding.
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