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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on March 19, 2023, 03:14:30 AM

Quote from: Solosanz on March 19, 2023, 03:04:45 AM

Simple, if you're worried about KYC, just gamble with small amount money and don't join any promotion or free money/spin, the casino wouldn't ask you to submit KYC since your account have normal activities.

It's true to read rules of events like free spins before joining it. If you see rules are not attractively good enough or contains some requirements you don't like because you see it violates your privacy, simply ignore those events.

Not completely true in general because I've experienced myself (not in Duelbits) where I played normally with small amount, did not take any bonuses/promotions but the casino ask me to do KYC on my 1st withdrawal request worth no more than $200. That's not the point though, taking bonus/promotion is fine as long as we do not try to abuse it. In most cases, many small players were asked to do KYC because their accounts are suspected for abusing the bonuses.

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Quote from: Solosanz on March 19, 2023, 03:04:45 AM

You're seems like saying KYC casino is taking advantage to force their user to submit KYC when the gambler joined a promotion, but that's a way for the casino to know if the participants weren't using multiple accounts because it's not fair to the other gamblers.

Casinos do have tools to detect gambler information from IP address, device information used for login and betting, betting pattern and more so that they are able to detect suspicious cheating accounts. Sometimes they don't need KYC information to conclude multi-accounts or cheating.

I think for promotion and small bonus events, KYC is not necessary to conclude cheating cases. KYC is only helpful for complicated cases with too big capital and casino need to have it to handle cases very confidently to avoid exploitation on their budget as well avoid unnecessary damage on their reputation by wrong initial handle.

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Simple, if you're worried about KYC, just gamble with small amount money and don't join any promotion or free money/spin, the casino wouldn't ask you to submit KYC since your account have normal activities.

It's true to read rules of events like free spins before joining it. If you see rules are not attractively good enough or contains some requirements you don't like because you see it violates your privacy, simply ignore those events.

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Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 11:48:08 PM

For promotions that are quite interesting and profitable, casinos usually ask for KYC or verify their data for customers who want to claim bonuses.
This is one of the strategies of the casino to still get KYC from every customer but in a way that is more subtle and doesn't seem obligatory because I'm sure casinos also realize that most gamblers don't like KYC.

You're seems like saying KYC casino is taking advantage to force their user to submit KYC when the gambler joined a promotion, but that's a way for the casino to know if the participants weren't using multiple accounts because it's not fair to the other gamblers.

Simple, if you're worried about KYC, just gamble with small amount money and don't join any promotion or free money/spin, the casino wouldn't ask you to submit KYC since your account have normal activities.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on March 18, 2023, 02:05:47 PM

Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 01:53:38 AM

If indeed the casino requires KYC it would be better for us to provide KYC at the beginning without having to delay the delay because after all if we play in a casino that has KYC but we don't provide it then later there will be a message which is usually sent via email for us to immediately complete the requirements The KYC and this seems to be very annoying.
After all, we also don't know what will happen in the future, for example, if we later win a game with big profits and want to withdraw everything, there will definitely be KYC requirements that are requested by the casino for these large withdrawals.
So it's better to provide what is needed and felt important at the start of entering the casino so that later on we don't get a few problems or obstacles.

Currently to go through KYC does not only happen to users who get big wins but also applies to users who claim some promotions as I experienced
it is clear that casino uses this method to avoid cheating or abuse so we have to consider if we get an attractive promotion offer which applies almost in all casinos
I know some users don't like KYC but they forget about it when following one of the promotion so it is like being trapped, here I just remind the risks.

For promotions that are quite interesting and profitable, casinos usually ask for KYC or verify their data for customers who want to claim bonuses.
This is one of the strategies of the casino to still get KYC from every customer but in a way that is more subtle and doesn't seem obligatory because I'm sure casinos also realize that most gamblers don't like KYC.
If indeed KYC is really needed, such as when withdrawing large amounts of money, even though gamblers don't like and object to KYC, they still have to give it in order to be able to take the money in the casino's wallet.
I think if this is a big trusted casino then there is no need to worry too much about the risk of giving a KYC.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 17, 2023, 10:02:21 AM

I got a limited promotional offer from Duelbits today. Based on the terms of the offer, I will receive 50 free spins on Clover Bonanza slots by wagering 100$ only. There will be no wagering requirement on the free spin winnings. Has anyone else received this limited bonus message?

I don't think I got the promo email. I thought it was given to people who have reached a certain level.
My account is about to reach Joker and it's only about 8%-9% less to reach it.
And I only received two promo emails as below:

For the free bet, I'm not sure I've used it or can still use it but later, I'll check it in my account.
For a bonus of 30% top-up deposit, hopefully, we can get it even if we only deposit the minimum amount Grin

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Quote from: dimonstration on March 17, 2023, 11:44:02 AM

All of the Duelbits reward doesn’t have a wagering requirements after fulfilling the requirements to get it. I claim promotion like this before and I remember that you will receive all the profit from the free spin directly to your wallet which is instantly available to withdraw.

They have already set a wagering requirement of $100 to get the free spins so yes there would be no such after requirements if you want to withdraw the money I think.But you have to risk $100 also but if you are getting 50 free spins then it's worth trying it if you are gambling so take the risk and who knows you get some good profits into your account.

True, especially when you got lucky in a slot game while meeting the requirement to get the 50 free spins. We have seen several players in the forum winning 1000x to 5000x and even maximum wins on their favorite slot. So I also think that it worth risking the $100 wagering amount to claim the 50 free spins bonus. Aside from that, the slot where the free spin is rewarded has good multiplier rewards. If one got lucky, he may be able to get huge winnings from the game.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on March 18, 2023, 02:05:47 PM

Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 01:53:38 AM

If indeed the casino requires KYC it would be better for us to provide KYC at the beginning without having to delay the delay because after all if we play in a casino that has KYC but we don't provide it then later there will be a message which is usually sent via email for us to immediately complete the requirements The KYC and this seems to be very annoying.
After all, we also don't know what will happen in the future, for example, if we later win a game with big profits and want to withdraw everything, there will definitely be KYC requirements that are requested by the casino for these large withdrawals.
So it's better to provide what is needed and felt important at the start of entering the casino so that later on we don't get a few problems or obstacles.

Currently to go through KYC does not only happen to users who get big wins but also applies to users who claim some promotions as I experienced
it is clear that casino uses this method to avoid cheating or abuse so we have to consider if we get an attractive promotion offer which applies almost in all casinos
I know some users don't like KYC but they forget about it when following one of the promotion so it is like being trapped, here I just remind the risks.

Yep, Big winners and promotion grabbers are the one who are commonly get a KYC request from the casino. I just noticed it from various threads here in this forum and I personally experienced it given that I don't take promotions and I don't win that big enough. I also don't know if casinos are doing random KYC request from their pool of gamblers but as far as I can tell, Losers who doesn't withdraw that much are the one who are least likely to get KYC request from those casino. I believe that it is a way that casino do to avoid cheaters and abusers from their casino since they can be cheated and of course they just don't want to giveaway their own money.

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Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 01:53:38 AM

If indeed the casino requires KYC it would be better for us to provide KYC at the beginning without having to delay the delay because after all if we play in a casino that has KYC but we don't provide it then later there will be a message which is usually sent via email for us to immediately complete the requirements The KYC and this seems to be very annoying.
After all, we also don't know what will happen in the future, for example, if we later win a game with big profits and want to withdraw everything, there will definitely be KYC requirements that are requested by the casino for these large withdrawals.
So it's better to provide what is needed and felt important at the start of entering the casino so that later on we don't get a few problems or obstacles.

Currently to go through KYC does not only happen to users who get big wins but also applies to users who claim some promotions as I experienced
it is clear that casino uses this method to avoid cheating or abuse so we have to consider if we get an attractive promotion offer which applies almost in all casinos
I know some users don't like KYC but they forget about it when following one of the promotion so it is like being trapped, here I just remind the risks.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on March 17, 2023, 06:29:17 PM

I think if he choos a low volatility slots, $100 wagering isn't that hard. It means he just need to wager a total of $100 and is not necessary to deplete $100 bankroll. Betting on Dice may probably needs $15 to fulfill that $100 wagering at a 98% chance of winning, maybe a little less on Plinko.

Calculating with that statistics, I believe it is worth a try to get 50 free spins since at a minimum bet it cost $10 plus the potential to win bigger amount.

The eligible games that qualify for the $100 wager requirement is limited to some games as quoted below:

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Eligible games
BGaming: Four Lucky Clover, Mechanical Clover, Lucky Oak, Bonanza Billion, Gangsterz
Pragmatic Play: Clover Gold, Wild Wild Riches, Gold Party, Rainbow Gold, Wild Wild Riches Megaways
Spinomenal: Irish Treasures Leprechauns Fortune, Irish Treasures, Irish Lucky Dice Dice, Book Of Irish Treasures

It means that betting on dice and plinko is not counted, even if you wager $1,000, you will not get the 50 free spins. This offer is also limited to those who received the email, so anyone who are interested to participate need to check their inbox first. I received this email as well but I'm not going to take this offer because I'm not really familiar with all the selected games for the $100 wager requirement.

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Quote from: dimonstration on March 17, 2023, 11:44:02 AM

All of the Duelbits reward doesn’t have a wagering requirements after fulfilling the requirements to get it. I claim promotion like this before and I remember that you will receive all the profit from the free spin directly to your wallet which is instantly available to withdraw.

They have already set a wagering requirement of $100 to get the free spins so yes there would be no such after requirements if you want to withdraw the money I think.But you have to risk $100 also but if you are getting 50 free spins then it's worth trying it if you are gambling so take the risk and who knows you get some good profits into your account.

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Quote from: Solosanz on March 18, 2023, 12:19:49 AM

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The most interesting and in my eyes, the only interestkng one is the boosted odds on BTS for Barcelona vs Real Madrid. Increase of 50% and chances that both teams scores at least one time are pretty high so there is a lot of value in this bet.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 17, 2023, 11:54:44 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on March 17, 2023, 09:36:50 AM

we can leave the responsability for the casino but I also like to bring responsability to myself when acting
I mean, an user has to check the terms of the place he's depositing money
then the user can KYC before depositing or before winning to save some hours of headache

Yes, there is no point delaying the KYC when you know that you will be needing to do KYC if you win big and want to withdraw. It is always better to complete the KYC requirements before playing/depositing. Better complete the formalities of the casino before playing.

If indeed the casino requires KYC it would be better for us to provide KYC at the beginning without having to delay the delay because after all if we play in a casino that has KYC but we don't provide it then later there will be a message which is usually sent via email for us to immediately complete the requirements The KYC and this seems to be very annoying.
After all, we also don't know what will happen in the future, for example, if we later win a game with big profits and want to withdraw everything, there will definitely be KYC requirements that are requested by the casino for these large withdrawals.
So it's better to provide what is needed and felt important at the start of entering the casino so that later on we don't get a few problems or obstacles.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on March 17, 2023, 06:29:17 PM

I think if he choos a low volatility slots, $100 wagering isn't that hard. It means he just need to wager a total of $100 and is not necessary to deplete $100 bankroll. Betting on Dice may probably needs $15 to fulfill that $100 wagering at a 98% chance of winning, maybe a little less on Plinko.

Calculating with that statistics, I believe it is worth a try to get 50 free spins since at a minimum bet it cost $10 plus the potential to win bigger amount.

According to the rules of the bonus that included on bonus. You can only received the 50 free spin when you play on selected slot games. You have no choice to play on low volatility slot game or less house edge game like plinko and dice. Duelbits know how to give fair bonus because their reward has no wagering requirements. They will become a foundation if they give bonus without wagering requirements while the requirements itself can be claim without any possibility for them to have a profit.

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There are few promotions from Duelbits to football and MMA fans.

Manchester City vs Burnley, over 3.5 goals the odds was 2.20 now 3.00.

Barcelona vs Real Madrid, both teams to score the odds was 1.70 now 2.50.

Edwards vs Usman trilogy, Leon Edwards to win by KO the odds was 6.50 now 8.00.

Jiri's MMA picks: Gunnar Nelson, Justin Gaethje & Leon Edwards all to pick up wins the odds was 11.00 now 14.00.

I think only the football promotions are worth to bet, since the MMA promotions looks like unlikely or hard to happen.

Source: https://duelbits.com/promotions/man-city-burnley-odds-boost
https://duelbits.com/promotions/el-clasico-boosted-odds
https://duelbits.com/promotions/mma-odds-boost-ko
https://duelbits.com/promotions/jiri-mma-picks-boost

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Quote from: dimonstration on March 17, 2023, 12:13:04 PM

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Quote from: dimonstration on March 17, 2023, 11:44:02 AM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 17, 2023, 10:02:21 AM

I got a limited promotional offer from Duelbits today. Based on the terms of the offer, I will receive 50 free spins on Clover Bonanza slots by wagering 100$ only. There will be no wagering requirement on the free spin winnings. Has anyone else received this limited bonus message?

All of the Duelbits reward doesn’t have a wagering requirements after fulfilling the requirements to get it. I claim promotion like this before and I remember that you will receive all the profit from the free spin directly to your wallet which is instantly available to withdraw.

You still have to wager 100$ in order to get these 50 free spins. Anyways i understand that winning from these free spins will be not required to wagering in order for you to withdraw. Also doing 100$ wagering is very easy if you know how to risk your money in gambling with minimum risks.

I believe he already understood the premise that he will need to wager 100$ before he can get the free spin since he literally writes it on his post and specifically ask about the requirements of the free spins and not the procedure on how to get it.

Wagering 100$ on slot games is kinda hard too especially if the eligible slot games has a high volatility. You might end up losing more than the amount you can earn on the free spin reward if you not lucky to hit any win on wagering 100$.

I think if he choos a low volatility slots, $100 wagering isn't that hard. It means he just need to wager a total of $100 and is not necessary to deplete $100 bankroll. Betting on Dice may probably needs $15 to fulfill that $100 wagering at a 98% chance of winning, maybe a little less on Plinko.

Calculating with that statistics, I believe it is worth a try to get 50 free spins since at a minimum bet it cost $10 plus the potential to win bigger amount.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 17, 2023, 11:54:44 AM

Quote from: dimonstration on March 17, 2023, 11:44:02 AM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 17, 2023, 10:02:21 AM

I got a limited promotional offer from Duelbits today. Based on the terms of the offer, I will receive 50 free spins on Clover Bonanza slots by wagering 100$ only. There will be no wagering requirement on the free spin winnings. Has anyone else received this limited bonus message?

All of the Duelbits reward doesn’t have a wagering requirements after fulfilling the requirements to get it. I claim promotion like this before and I remember that you will receive all the profit from the free spin directly to your wallet which is instantly available to withdraw.

You still have to wager 100$ in order to get these 50 free spins. Anyways i understand that winning from these free spins will be not required to wagering in order for you to withdraw. Also doing 100$ wagering is very easy if you know how to risk your money in gambling with minimum risks.

I believe he already understood the premise that he will need to wager 100$ before he can get the free spin since he literally writes it on his post and specifically ask about the requirements of the free spins and not the procedure on how to get it.

Wagering 100$ on slot games is kinda hard too especially if the eligible slot games has a high volatility. You might end up losing more than the amount you can earn on the free spin reward if you not lucky to hit any win on wagering 100$.

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Quote from: dimonstration on March 17, 2023, 11:44:02 AM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 17, 2023, 10:02:21 AM

I got a limited promotional offer from Duelbits today. Based on the terms of the offer, I will receive 50 free spins on Clover Bonanza slots by wagering 100$ only. There will be no wagering requirement on the free spin winnings. Has anyone else received this limited bonus message?

All of the Duelbits reward doesn’t have a wagering requirements after fulfilling the requirements to get it. I claim promotion like this before and I remember that you will receive all the profit from the free spin directly to your wallet which is instantly available to withdraw.

You still have to wager 100$ in order to get these 50 free spins. Anyways i understand that winning from these free spins will be not required to wagering in order for you to withdraw. Also doing 100$ wagering is very easy if you know how to risk your money in gambling with minimum risks.

Quote from: Lucasgabd on March 17, 2023, 09:36:50 AM

we can leave the responsability for the casino but I also like to bring responsability to myself when acting
I mean, an user has to check the terms of the place he's depositing money
then the user can KYC before depositing or before winning to save some hours of headache

Yes, there is no point delaying the KYC when you know that you will be needing to do KYC if you win big and want to withdraw. It is always better to complete the KYC requirements before playing/depositing. Better complete the formalities of the casino before playing.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on March 17, 2023, 10:02:21 AM

I got a limited promotional offer from Duelbits today. Based on the terms of the offer, I will receive 50 free spins on Clover Bonanza slots by wagering 100$ only. There will be no wagering requirement on the free spin winnings. Has anyone else received this limited bonus message?

All of the Duelbits reward doesn’t have a wagering requirements after fulfilling the requirements to get it. I claim promotion like this before and I remember that you will receive all the profit from the free spin directly to your wallet which is instantly available to withdraw.

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I got a limited promotional offer from Duelbits today. Based on the terms of the offer, I will receive 50 free spins on Clover Bonanza slots by wagering 100$ only. There will be no wagering requirement on the free spin winnings. Has anyone else received this limited bonus message?

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on March 15, 2023, 09:36:20 AM

I didn't KYC with them before since I'm not really a gambling player, but if I had problems with KYC I'd probably open a support ticket and wait, better to do things with no hurry

gives peace of mind.

It’s true if you don’t have funds trap on it but it’s a different story if they freeze your balance while you really need it badly for your personal expenses. It happened to me one time and it’s really frustrating to have a funds floating with indefinite time of approval.

Most of the time casino will KYC your account before you can withdraw your funds. This is the reason why most of the user that encounter KYC usually has a short tempered on waiting for approval.

the best policy is probably to KYC in casinos that require it BEFORE making any bets or depositing money
that way you won't have problems later on the road and be trapped in a unwanted situation.

better safe than sorry

I agree, if a casino requires a mandatory KYC before accepting any deposits, they will save their time from possible KYC problems. Players will not accept the typical perform KYC after big wins, and or accusation of multi-accounting when claiming bonuses and getting a huge win from that claims.

Most casino's leeway is multi-accounting to deprived its player of huge wins. So I also think that it is best to have a mandatory KYC before any fund transfers it both saves the casino and players from future troubles.

we can leave the responsability for the casino but I also like to bring responsability to myself when acting
I mean, an user has to check the terms of the place he's depositing money
then the user can KYC before depositing or before winning to save some hours of headache

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