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legendary
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I'd guess that close to the highest bid its someone showing some support.

So who is creating the wall on vircurex DVC/BTC lately?   Now 14+ BTC sitting at 74 satoshi.   Is it a supporter, or someone trying to play?

Another opportunity to educate:  What does "creating a wall" mean?  And what do you mean by "14+ BTC sitting at 74 satoshi"?

Here's the line on vircurex:
19,999,555.2856    0.00000074    14.7997

They want to buy 20 million DVC at 0.00000074 BTC each. He's calling it a "wall" because its huge compared to all the other orders, on a chart it would make a tall vertical line. Wall implies other things too, the speculation subforum has plenty of examples, but imho there's nothing like that going on with that bid, it just looks like a substantial offer at the market rate.

This person seems like they already bought 11 or so btc and flashed 20 btc but removed it so they prob spending about 35 to 50 btc at this price. Seems like a noob because he doesnt know how dvc works. Any wall in the bid book will get eaten up slowly but to create a pump is what will drive others to buy. The wall will give incentive to selloff a big chunk to someone whonjust got the coins. A pump would have them add or hold thinking its rising. That person is either greedy or doesnt know how to manage hos position. I did the opposite i created a pump earlier and price rose for 35% subsequently. Noone has made a substantial pump after mine. Ive only seen the occasional attempts
at a few btc in the buy book that gets eaten up slowly as price jist sits there waiting for sellers.

If ur smart u would buy half above market and then place half in the book in increments.
legendary
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If this works I think this will be the first mainstream media article in favor of alt coins and in specific devcoin.  That would be great for marketing.  I wish I would be able to quantify that so I can get paid marketing shares.  lol, hey, if it's worth marketing shares then why wouldn't I want them?

Good luck with the article  Smiley

How exactly are marketing shares allocated?  I'm thinking I may want to get in on that... eventually.
legendary
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Thanks Ranlo and Stan Distortion!  That makes perfect sense  Smiley

Edit:  This brings up another question.

14+ BTC at 74 satoshi means that someone is offering up 14+ Bitcoins (14.00000000+) for DVC at a rate of 0.00000074 BTC per DVC.

For someone to buy at 73 sat would require people to sell almost 20 million DVC to the guy that is buying at 74 first, which is why it is a "wall."

Would that also mean that anyone else who wants to buy DVC at 74 sat would have to wait until that entire order is filled before theirs gets filled?

So... if I really wanted to buy more DVC right now and I didn't want to wait, I'd have to put in an order to buy them at at least 75 sat?
legendary
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So who is creating the wall on vircurex DVC/BTC lately?   Now 14+ BTC sitting at 74 satoshi.   Is it a supporter, or someone trying to play?

Another opportunity to educate:  What does "creating a wall" mean?  And what do you mean by "14+ BTC sitting at 74 satoshi"?

The wall is what it's called simply because it's tough to get across. For that order to be taken down, someone has to buy the entire thing.

14+ BTC at 74 satoshi means that someone is offering up 14+ Bitcoins (14.00000000+) for DVC at a rate of 0.00000074 BTC per DVC.

For someone to buy at 73 sat would require people to sell almost 20 million DVC to the guy that is buying at 74 first, which is why it is a "wall."

I'm going to assume whoever is buying it is speculating that the price is going to go back up and they are going to profit off it.
legendary
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So who is creating the wall on vircurex DVC/BTC lately?   Now 14+ BTC sitting at 74 satoshi.   Is it a supporter, or someone trying to play?

Another opportunity to educate:  What does "creating a wall" mean?  And what do you mean by "14+ BTC sitting at 74 satoshi"?
newbie
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So who is creating the wall on vircurex DVC/BTC lately?   Now 14+ BTC sitting at 74 satoshi.   Is it a supporter, or someone trying to play?
hero member
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Unthinkingbit confirmed for me that it is every 4k blocks starting with what we are used to for R24 (when I started), so payout is every 4k blocks from 96k (100, 104, 108, 112...) and the stopping point is every 4k blocks as well (93.3k, 97.3, 101.3, 105.3...).
Ok cheers
legendary
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The client I'm currently using for DVC is the 0.3.24-beta version.  I'm thinking I'd like to change to the client found here (https://www.box.com/s/crfmuuhe0f32w5g4nt4i) but haven't downloaded it yet.  If I download the next client and try it out, will the old one still run just fine?  Can I have two DVC clients running on the same computer?


It should.  This will probably change in a future build, but for now they are interoperable as long as you do not encrypt the wallet file.

I am curious.  It seems you joined the forum a month and a half after the new version came out.  Yet you still choose to download the older version.  I have gotten a few support pms and every single time it has turned out they downloaded the old version, and an update fixes their issues.  Why did you choose the old version still?


The client on the official site, or thread or whatever was the wrong version. I joined up long after the new version was released as well but up until a couple weeks ago I had no idea there even was a new version -- I was still using the one with the Bitcoin logo as that is the one that was listed.

Yeah, what he said ^^^  What I remember is that there was a choice of three places to download a client from and I didn't see any indication of one being better than another, so I just made a choice and that's what I got.  It works OK for now, but I bet the newer one is better.

A question on backing up the dat file.  Do I make backups regularly, like once a week?  Or, is the dat file going to be the same as time goes on because after all the client is really a reader of information stored somewhere else (blockchain)?

If/when I get around to downloading the new client, can I use the same dat file so that I can keep my original addresses?  If so, how would I do that?

New client pulls the wallet file from the same location. Ex. when I did the "upgrade" I simply downloaded the new client. Since it's still a Devcoin client it is still looking for the wallet in /roaming/devcoin/

And you have to back up the wallet every 100 addresses, whether that's because you created them or because you sent funds (as that creates an address as well). I personally just use an automatic backup program to keep up with the file and when it changes, it automatically backs it up. Lot easier than having to remember to deal with it, especially when you run 8-9 different wallets, lol.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1029
The client I'm currently using for DVC is the 0.3.24-beta version.  I'm thinking I'd like to change to the client found here (https://www.box.com/s/crfmuuhe0f32w5g4nt4i) but haven't downloaded it yet.  If I download the next client and try it out, will the old one still run just fine?  Can I have two DVC clients running on the same computer?


It should.  This will probably change in a future build, but for now they are interoperable as long as you do not encrypt the wallet file.

I am curious.  It seems you joined the forum a month and a half after the new version came out.  Yet you still choose to download the older version.  I have gotten a few support pms and every single time it has turned out they downloaded the old version, and an update fixes their issues.  Why did you choose the old version still?


The client on the official site, or thread or whatever was the wrong version. I joined up long after the new version was released as well but up until a couple weeks ago I had no idea there even was a new version -- I was still using the one with the Bitcoin logo as that is the one that was listed.

Yeah, what he said ^^^  What I remember is that there was a choice of three places to download a client from and I didn't see any indication of one being better than another, so I just made a choice and that's what I got.  It works OK for now, but I bet the newer one is better.

A question on backing up the dat file.  Do I make backups regularly, like once a week?  Or, is the dat file going to be the same as time goes on because after all the client is really a reader of information stored somewhere else (blockchain)?

If/when I get around to downloading the new client, can I use the same dat file so that I can keep my original addresses?  If so, how would I do that?
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Anybody seen finshaggy?  He's dissapeared.

Ever since those 3 trolls attacked him like 3 weeks ago he's vanished.  He used to post regularly and now all of a sudden:  nothing.  I hope he's ok.

Honestly, he damages this project more than he helps it. I found out soon after I joined that he was either trying to destroy it or he has no idea what he's doing and is accidentally causing damage. But then again, based on his entire "Bitcoin city" thing, he's doing the same thing to his own project. Kind of sad, really. I was surprised to see that somehow he became an Admin here...
sr. member
Activity: 574
Merit: 250
Anybody seen finshaggy?  He's dissapeared.

Ever since those 3 trolls attacked him like 3 weeks ago he's vanished.  He used to post regularly and now all of a sudden:  nothing.  I hope he's ok.

He posted yesterday ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2650027 ).
legendary
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www.ixcoin.net
Anybody seen finshaggy?  He's dissapeared.

Ever since those 3 trolls attacked him like 3 weeks ago he's vanished.  He used to post regularly and now all of a sudden:  nothing.  I hope he's ok.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
A new client for Mac would be great, kind of hard to manage it right now (bugs with copy /paste) due to the fact that it launches in the terminal (command line mac app).

All right, try it again with a download from https://www.box.com/s/ntna8dibxek351s42fxu

As this now no longer includes the daemon version, those that want the osx version of that can get it from: https://www.box.com/s/5f21cf8812nhsonpj8jm
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
The client I'm currently using for DVC is the 0.3.24-beta version.  I'm thinking I'd like to change to the client found here (https://www.box.com/s/crfmuuhe0f32w5g4nt4i) but haven't downloaded it yet.  If I download the next client and try it out, will the old one still run just fine?  Can I have two DVC clients running on the same computer?


It should.  This will probably change in a future build, but for now they are interoperable as long as you do not encrypt the wallet file.

I am curious.  It seems you joined the forum a month and a half after the new version came out.  Yet you still choose to download the older version.  I have gotten a few support pms and every single time it has turned out they downloaded the old version, and an update fixes their issues.  Why did you choose the old version still?


The client on the official site, or thread or whatever was the wrong version. I joined up long after the new version was released as well but up until a couple weeks ago I had no idea there even was a new version -- I was still using the one with the Bitcoin logo as that is the one that was listed.
sr. member
Activity: 574
Merit: 250
The client I'm currently using for DVC is the 0.3.24-beta version.  I'm thinking I'd like to change to the client found here (https://www.box.com/s/crfmuuhe0f32w5g4nt4i) but haven't downloaded it yet.  If I download the next client and try it out, will the old one still run just fine?  Can I have two DVC clients running on the same computer?


It should.  This will probably change in a future build, but for now they are interoperable as long as you do not encrypt the wallet file.

I am curious.  It seems you joined the forum a month and a half after the new version came out.  Yet you still choose to download the older version.  I have gotten a few support pms and every single time it has turned out they downloaded the old version, and an update fixes their issues.  Why did you choose the old version still?
legendary
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Btw second question, when does round 25 ends? since their was delay should we expect delay in the end of the round?

The Rounds end times and Payment start times (by block number) are at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_stats This page has numbers up to and including Round 30.
Are you sure about the +300's? 89,150 was used for round 23 (to ensure verybody had a valid dvc address) and then 93,300 for 24 to even them out, but assumed it was back to an 97,000 after that and onwards because the forward adjustment was then known beforehand.

Doesn't really matter, but I'm asked about this a lot and would be good to clarify as I've been saying 97k + 4,000,... and nobody here seemed to think or claim otherwise. Cheers

Unthinkingbit confirmed for me that it is every 4k blocks starting with what we are used to for R24 (when I started), so payout is every 4k blocks from 96k (100, 104, 108, 112...) and the stopping point is every 4k blocks as well (93.3k, 97.3, 101.3, 105.3...).
hero member
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Btw second question, when does round 25 ends? since their was delay should we expect delay in the end of the round?

The Rounds end times and Payment start times (by block number) are at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_stats This page has numbers up to and including Round 30.
Are you sure about the +300's? 89,150 was used for round 23 (to ensure verybody had a valid dvc address) and then 93,300 for 24 to even them out, but assumed it was back to an 97,000 after that and onwards because the forward adjustment was then known beforehand.

Doesn't really matter, but I'm asked about this a lot and would be good to clarify as I've been saying 97k + 4,000,... and nobody here seemed to think or claim otherwise. Cheers
hero member
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...second question, when does round 25 ends? since their was delay should we expect delay in the end of the round? Thanks
block 97k as far as I know - the earlier delay was to accommodate online wallet issues in round 23 and to even out that one with 24, rather than keep rolling over the extra blocks I think (but could be wrong)
legendary
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It's fine as long as you don't run them at the same time (well, some say not to run at the same time, others say it's fine... but I'd be safe).

You don't need to export your key though. Go to c:/users/[username]/appdata/roaming/devcoin/wallet.dat and just back up that file.

Thank you!

File is now backed up.  I feel better already Smiley

And I will take your advice and have the old client closed before messing with the new one.
sr. member
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A new client for Mac would be great, kind of hard to manage it right now (bugs with copy /paste) due to the fact that it launches in the terminal (command line mac app).

Btw second question, when does round 25 ends? since their was delay should we expect delay in the end of the round?

Thanks

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