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Quote from: Hispo on February 17, 2025, 11:57:47 AM

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It reminds me a friend of mine who wanted to quit his career as chef in order to become a professional player of Magic:The gathering. He even lost his partner over that choice he took.
He lesson children and young adults are supposed to take from those experiences others have gone though is: no everyone will reach the status of being a professional e-professional, and even if they did, that is a life style which is not suitable for everyone who wants it.

It could be said that it was a stupid choice and did not see how long it would be in the long run.
Wasting his profession as a professional chef just to become an E-Sport player, he couldn't stop thinking about how he could think of making E-Spot his main income, wouldn't even guarantee anything.

E-Sports may be the best profession for gamers, but they have their own time, it won't last long and some events won't always exist.
It's better to do work that has real results and that's the main job, E-Spot may only be part of a hobby that can make money, nothing more.

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Yeah E-sports is really promising during Covid pandemic, but now the hype seems not really booming anymore, it's tend to stagnant. Many people are getting older and they focus are to get jobs, then pay bills, they no longer want to play games anymore.

I no longer play games, but I still follow the competitive tournaments.

But, I don't really like to bet on E-sports because the players always change in every season, making it harder to predict the winner.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on February 17, 2025, 02:20:48 AM

...The only unfortunate thing is that children begin to learn about computer games very early, losing their childhood and health, since they are deprived of the opportunity to be in the fresh air and prefer to stay in front of the monitors as long as possible.

Right, children are not like they used to be anymore, they don't go outside and play football as often as they did in previous generations, now they spend much of their day watching a streamer in front of a screen for the entire day and getting exposition to whatever that streamers tries to sell them, in the case of e-sports, like Dota and League of Legends, I have seem children as young as eleven years old playing LoL for the sake of competitiveness and to rank among the best of their friend group, eventually that ambition can turn into them becoming professional players of such game, but unfortunately most of the time all ends up being a distraction from education.

It reminds me a friend of mine who wanted to quit his career as chef in order to become a professional player of Magic:The gathering. He even lost his partner over that choice he took.
He lesson children and young adults are supposed to take from those experiences others have gone though is: no everyone will reach the status of being a professional e-professional, and even if they did, that is a life style which is not suitable for everyone who wants it.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on February 17, 2025, 02:20:48 AM

Not all gamers are cyber sportsmen, OP; you have combined everything into one pile. Computer games sometimes cause the same gambling addiction. Yes, the dopamine that the player receives is of primary importance, and the more he plays, the faster he develops the need to get even more "pleasure" from games. However, those games that are commonly called sports are causing a great stir today. The championships held in team games are similar to real sports with their training and athletes. The only unfortunate thing is that children begin to learn about computer games very early, losing their childhood and health, since they are deprived of the opportunity to be in the fresh air and prefer to stay in front of the monitors as long as possible.

You are right, but they have same effect on people.

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Not all gamers are cyber sportsmen, OP; you have combined everything into one pile. Computer games sometimes cause the same gambling addiction. Yes, the dopamine that the player receives is of primary importance, and the more he plays, the faster he develops the need to get even more "pleasure" from games. However, those games that are commonly called sports are causing a great stir today. The championships held in team games are similar to real sports with their training and athletes. The only unfortunate thing is that children begin to learn about computer games very early, losing their childhood and health, since they are deprived of the opportunity to be in the fresh air and prefer to stay in front of the monitors as long as possible.

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Quote from: ? on February 15, 2025, 08:48:04 AM

But what could be the reason for stay on games for so long as a whole day?

it is fun, easy, and accessible these are key ingredients for making sure one gets addicted to something and sometimes they even earn from this

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Is there a possibility that gamers could have a balance, that enables one to enjoy the game, have fun and not be overly attracted or attached to the game?

definitely i am one of those who can play when i want and stop exactly when i want to so i know for sure that it is indeed possible to have a balance just make sure that you are responsible enough and know what’s good or not for you

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 16, 2025, 08:04:59 AM

I understand all of this. I have played Counter-Strike back when it first came out and I can stay on a computer rental place for 8-10 hours just playing that game over and over again.
Then, I also played some DOTA 1 which made me add more time to be in front of the monitor because I played both games and it didn't bore me because I could switch from one game to another.
Finally, I also played MMORPG and when you are grinding you will need to be in front of the computer for like 12 hours or more just to prove that you have the strongest avatar in the whole game.

All this can happen when you are so hooked on the game. There are even younger players now who almost don't sleep and are in front of their smartphones playing MOBA games. I think there's the part where we also feel good when we play with or against other players that makes us stay in the game.

Alternating is a form of balance as you don't have to stick to just one for long, but they are both games at the end of the day. 😂

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Quote from: ? on February 15, 2025, 08:48:04 AM

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But what could be the reason for stay on games for so long as a whole day?

How does E-Sports involvement, affect those involved?

Is there a possibility that gamers could have a balance, that enables one to enjoy the game, have fun and not be overly attracted or attached to the game?

Because of same escapism as anything else. And is it worse to have interactive hobby that probably activates your mind instead of escapism by just watching tv series?

E-sports players have balance. At least in pro levels. They actually exercise because healthy body / rested and focused mind, is just more productive combination in pro gaming.
It's not a normal work where people are underpaid and overworked, because that would be counter productive.

These are not your normal grumpy teens that never go out and only play with playstation. They need to be on top of their game, so obviously it needs balance to get on the top, and best ones have already balancing their lives, like athletes usually do.

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Quote from: ? on February 15, 2025, 08:48:04 AM

E sports have evolved over the years, from what it used to be... remember the rolling stone magazine days?

Oh yeah, today we have the PlayStations or Xbox and it's pure fun as you have players and the audience alike, glued.

The space did metamorphose into a big sector. Today you can be an e-sporter as a career, it's been considered a sporting activity.
You could play with different people and the interesting part is that there's always someone to play with. You could gift a friend Xbox via gift card, in a different continent.

How technology has made the world a small space.

Sounds all interesting and I get to marvel at the excitement tied to these games that could make one so attached to 'em.

A lad could sit in front of his computer a whole gaming.

One reason for attachment to game could be the fun of the game, winning or wanting to win.

For some, they just want to be away from all the actual noise in our world. There could certainly be other reasons why people want to stay on the game for a long time.

But what could be the reason for stay on games for so long as a whole day?

How does E-Sports involvement, affect those involved?

Is there a possibility that gamers could have a balance, that enables one to enjoy the game, have fun and not be overly attracted or attached to the game?

It depends what you are classing as esports really, as there are casual streamers who enjoy playing games while maybe trying to become the very best player, but their main imperative is having a good time with their audience of fans. Then there are players who maybe morph into "professional gamers" that seek out the money that can be offered if a game is popular enough to run tournaments, sometimes being part of a team with different sponsorships that are given. Even big companies like Redbull or famous clubs like PSG are trying to dominate this space now, which shows how mature the market has become. Ultimately anyone who is doing this will generally love the game and are good for building a community around it.

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Quote from: Perfectbaby on February 16, 2025, 04:11:36 PM

Most times there are things which makes people to want to spend that much time over the game hall or centres this includes; kill off time, wanting to have fun, some could be gambling to make additional money through their gaming moments which has been entirely turned into gambling. As people gambles it increases their interest to continue gambling as same time having the fun they all desired to have on, staying off from home shouldn't be for a reason they aren't wanting to stay indoors some could be just to interact with people and see someone to share their real life stories to what that also bothers them.

Well, everyone has their own agenda when they bet on sports. Earn money, enjoy, have fun or mingle with other people. Whatever your goal is, always remember to use your spare funds so you won't have any problem afterwards. As many people are getting addicted with sportsbetting, esports and the likes, it is your own prerogative how you will control yourself in front of your games.

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Most times there are things which makes people to want to spend that much time over the game hall or centres this includes; kill off time, wanting to have fun, some could be gambling to make additional money through their gaming moments which has been entirely turned into gambling. As people gambles it increases their interest to continue gambling as same time having the fun they all desired to have on, staying off from home shouldn't be for a reason they aren't wanting to stay indoors some could be just to interact with people and see someone to share their real life stories to what that also bothers them.

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Quote from: ? on February 15, 2025, 08:48:04 AM

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Yee, esports has grown so far and become a legit profession and huge industry, there are even courses here in my country that promotes esports. Individuals remain on games for hours due to the enjoyment, competition, and even as a coping mechanism from stress in real life. Too much gaming will mess with everyday life, but balance can be achieved through good time management. Placing boundaries, taking breaks, and engaging in other activities keep things in perspective. At the end of the day, gaming should be fun, not something that takes over your life.

op didn't add about the relation of it to gambling but I'll add some. The growth of esports in general can affect the gambling industry too, the huger it becomes, it's also to gambling industry.

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Quote from: Porfirii on February 16, 2025, 06:54:41 AM

Quote from: ? on February 15, 2025, 08:48:04 AM

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For some, they just want to be away from all the actual noise in our world. There could certainly be other reasons why people want to stay on the game for a long time.

But what could be the reason for stay on games for so long as a whole day?

How does E-Sports involvement, affect those involved?

Is there a possibility that gamers could have a balance, that enables one to enjoy the game, have fun and not be overly attracted or attached to the game?

You said it well: many players find a haven of peace in the virtual world. I'm not only thinking on e-sports, but also in other immersive open world videogames like MMORPGs, or metaverses (which, surprisingly, aren't getting the attention I expected lately, maybe because of the competition with all the AI hype these days).

There can be a balance, and some players only play on weekends, for a limited time every day, or with seasons when they are more prone to play than others. In my case, although I find some videogames interesting and can be quite active for some time, I always end up getting bored and abandoning it sooner or later. But it is also true that there are some people that never quit, or need a new and more exciting videogame to quit the previous one.

'Never quitting ' that's the phrase. That's where the addiction lies.
I surf the Internet a whole lot, always on my screen. But sometimes I am able to stay off, you know.

So even I am able to stay off for a bit my fingers get itchy. Like I just wanna pick up the device. I don't know how the developers do it but it's working. 😂 They tend to keep users where they want them to be.

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I grew up playing PlayStation with my brothers and friends, somedays we played all through the night and other days we played for a short time, however, we never never addicted to the game. Obviously as we grew, we were not as attracted to the game as we used to when we were younger, so right now we play seldomly.

My point is that it is possible to have a balance, surely if you are working, you would not have the time to sit in front of the screen playing games, you would have to get to work. It is also not nice to always use games to get away from problems in the world, it is better you talk to someone on how you feel.

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Is there a possibility that gamers could have a balance, that enables one to enjoy the game, have fun and not be overly attracted or attached to the game?

Most definitely there can be a balance. Gamers usually get a lot of stick cause of how it looks sitting down for several hours on a console, but people spend even more time idling on their phones and doing some other things for fun and relaxation.

I game for several hours on some days when I can make out the time and I can also put down the controller whenever that becomes necessary to be done.

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The problem about esports is the crazy drugs (legal drugs) the players takes, things to be full focused and to stay alert all time, that kind of drugs have huge concecuences and that's why we see the players too hype or act8ng wired.

Games are a bad vice, and mixed with that kind of drugs is a life destroyer combo.

This is another eye opener...drugs? Though legal but damn, that's gonna have some health implications rights?

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Is there a possibility that gamers could have a balance, that enables one to enjoy the game, have fun and not be overly attracted or attached to the game?

It comes with maturity; gamers will always comeback because of their characters, where they derive their confidence and a sense of superiority; this is where their attachments come from. If only they had something offline that will beat their desire to with their characters, then that's the time that they will put their gaming in the right perspective.
So its important for parents to give quality time to their children, limit their online activities, and give them more activities offline; that's where balance will come.

Yes, and priority too in life. If the gamers knows his priority then obviously he will at some point going to stop to play and take care of things that he need to do first before he gets to play the game again.

And with that, comes maturity as well, and now that he knows his priority then slowly he might detached himself to the game and it might take time for anyone to totally get away and not look for the dopamine effect.

Here comes the time that you will really be that wanting to stop on playing gambling specially if you do have priorities in life or have decided to settle down and quit up pro scene. We've seen already those pro-players have already settled themselves like having that full time together with their family, pursuing up the careers that they do wanted and some are really just that becoming a coach. Being a player doesnt mean that you are really that immature on which we do know that playing E-sports isnt really that for kids but also in adults specially to those who have been that heavy players in the past on which until now that they are still that playing.

Even myself i do consider to be a heavy player but on the time or moment that i had become a father or simply having its own family then i have settled down and quit up on playing, there are times or occasionally on trying out to play up some game but only a few minutes. All of the excitement and urge had already that gone but doesnt mean that even you are old and playing which doesnt mean that you arent that mature. There are really just that things which are far more important.

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I understand all of this. I have played Counter-Strike back when it first came out and I can stay on a computer rental place for 8-10 hours just playing that game over and over again.
Then, I also played some DOTA 1 which made me add more time to be in front of the monitor because I played both games and it didn't bore me because I could switch from one game to another.
Finally, I also played MMORPG and when you are grinding you will need to be in front of the computer for like 12 hours or more just to prove that you have the strongest avatar in the whole game.

All this can happen when you are so hooked on the game. There are even younger players now who almost don't sleep and are in front of their smartphones playing MOBA games. I think there's the part where we also feel good when we play with or against other players that makes us stay in the game.

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Quote from: ? on February 15, 2025, 08:48:04 AM

But what could be the reason for stay on games for so long as a whole day?

For usual gamers, It's fun. Why should you stop if you having fun? For those who are gaming content creators, they play looking for content; then there are guys wanting to become pro gamers, they play wanting to improve and those who are already skilled, play to continue sharpening their skills.

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How does E-Sports involvement, affect those involved?

They have to play plenty, and may get bored.

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Is there a possibility that gamers could have a balance, that enables one to enjoy the game, have fun and not be overly attracted or attached to the game?

Being attached is part of having fun. If you are not attached you can't have fun, but deep down they surely would be aware of the fact that it's just game (excluding pro gamers since they compete for real).

Regarding balance, I think it comes naturally as life happens and priorities change.

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Quote from: ? on February 15, 2025, 08:48:04 AM

Is there a possibility that gamers could have a balance, that enables one to enjoy the game, have fun and not be overly attracted or attached to the game?

It comes with maturity; gamers will always comeback because of their characters, where they derive their confidence and a sense of superiority; this is where their attachments come from. If only they had something offline that will beat their desire to with their characters, then that's the time that they will put their gaming in the right perspective.
So its important for parents to give quality time to their children, limit their online activities, and give them more activities offline; that's where balance will come.

Yes, and priority too in life. If the gamers knows his priority then obviously he will at some point going to stop to play and take care of things that he need to do first before he gets to play the game again.

And with that, comes maturity as well, and now that he knows his priority then slowly he might detached himself to the game and it might take time for anyone to totally get away and not look for the dopamine effect.

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Quote from: ? on February 15, 2025, 08:48:04 AM

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For some, they just want to be away from all the actual noise in our world. There could certainly be other reasons why people want to stay on the game for a long time.

But what could be the reason for stay on games for so long as a whole day?

How does E-Sports involvement, affect those involved?

Is there a possibility that gamers could have a balance, that enables one to enjoy the game, have fun and not be overly attracted or attached to the game?

You said it well: many players find a haven of peace in the virtual world. I'm not only thinking on e-sports, but also in other immersive open world videogames like MMORPGs, or metaverses (which, surprisingly, aren't getting the attention I expected lately, maybe because of the competition with all the AI hype these days).

There can be a balance, and some players only play on weekends, for a limited time every day, or with seasons when they are more prone to play than others. In my case, although I find some videogames interesting and can be quite active for some time, I always end up getting bored and abandoning it sooner or later. But it is also true that there are some people that never quit, or need a new and more exciting videogame to quit the previous one.

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