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legendary
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August 20, 2015, 03:58:13 PM
#53
Dude, anonymity is so 2014. Tons of coins had it and its rather useless as you can be anonymous with Bitcoin itself. I'm pretty sure you're the founder of this coin, lol.


This coins main selling feature isn't anominity. It's just a feature essential to any coin. I think you misunderstand I'm not arguing for a pump I'm arguing for a useful ctyptocurrency.....you know in the real world outside Polinex and Bitcointalk.....yeah scary eh.


Yeah I'm the founder.....one second I'm an idiot who lost passwords to NEM and found it too complicated next I'm reinventing Bitcoin....I know my limits maybe you should recognise yours Sherlock.
sr. member
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August 20, 2015, 03:55:30 PM
#52
Dude, anonymity is so 2014. Tons of coins had it and its rather useless as you can be anonymous with Bitcoin itself. I'm pretty sure you're the founder of this coin, lol.
legendary
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August 20, 2015, 03:49:27 PM
#51

biggest oppotunity? LOL
And that from a guy who is splashing around in Ethereum threads, and attacked NEM cause he lost his stack cause he forgot his password.
Hugh credibility, buy this shitcoin asap.

 


Two can play that game i did t need to even look at your past posts to remember you were one of the biggest shrills for NEM......ie the biggest bunch of assholes ever to grace the crypto scene. And I also remember you and that community absolutely convinced you were going to be the biggest crypto every and beat Bitcoin. Bunch of assholes. So you're doing the same for Eth now yeah? Lol


vanilla coin is an obvious winner cause it's now less than 1m marketcap and is the only coin to instantly and safely send....if you think that's not important for crypto as a payment mechanism then you need your head examined. Bitcoin simply can't be the money of e commerce unless it goes through other payment processors. ie misses the point.

You can disagree and think a slower payment is better.....and that's your God given right to be wrong.


fact is I've seen big projects come and go, NEM, NXT, all of the NXT built on projects etc and they have their little season everyone is interested and then people move to the next big thing......the fact is instant safe transactions may not be the obvious sexy function but that's all you need to be the best payment method of choice......mark my words when people have stopped caring about ETH...Vanilla coin will be going strong.
legendary
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August 20, 2015, 12:36:03 PM
#50
Node coin has instant transactions, been around for awhile

Just looked it up - their consensus mechanism is based on timestamps, combined with transaction volume, which are the easiest things to forge in the world. I would stay well clear of this as well.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDlGZn7sICIA8bUPhe6jPPzGOxA4YgTgi6J4XilFpgs/edit
hero member
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Never back down !!!
August 20, 2015, 11:51:45 AM
#49

biggest oppotunity? LOL
And that from a guy who is splashing around in Ethereum threads, and attacked NEM cause he lost his stack cause he forgot his password.
Hugh credibility, buy this shitcoin asap.

 
tyz
legendary
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August 20, 2015, 10:13:12 AM
#48
Ask yourself; would Dogecoin became so successful if it would not be named Dogecoin? I say no Wink
Name is always an important factor.

I know this forum is full of hype but if one coin is such a screaming buy then it's Vanilla Coin.


Sounds like a shitcoin BUT isn't at all. (Which is why I think it's been overlooked)


The coins' name probably isn't helping with adoption either Wink

What relevance is the name? How does bitcoin/litecoin/dash/XXcoin stand any better of a chance
legendary
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August 20, 2015, 10:06:54 AM
#47
The reason its not going anywhere is because these things have been done before. We already have a coin that does anon and instant transactions. Even with something as innovative as Next and Bitshares they are still not "mooning".. too many coins, too many scams in crypto.. All the investors gone or back to BTC or just not interested.. I dunno.. I thought I would be rich by now.  Grin


I assume you mean DASH which is partially centralised. Maybe you didn't get rich cause you didn't research properly.

Dash, yeah been in and out of that one a few times. Vanilla, mined that one from the get go, sold it all on the first real pump a month or two ago. I didn't get rich because to me rich is several million USD and I'm not there yet.


My point still stands. You asked why its not going anywhere and that's because its another anon coin where we have several already. Dash, as shitty as it is, has first mover advantage. Just like bitcoin. Will Monero or Vanilla surpass it? My guess is probably not since user base (community) seems to be the deciding factor here. Why else would LTC and Doge do so well?


DASH is not decentralised.....what part of that don't you get?

No one has solved double spend with instant transactions with zero confirmations, all essential if we are to have a safe quick payment system.


The anonomous element really just the cherry on top. The big story is Zerotime.

can I suggest you research more or at least FUD is a more realistic way.

I never said Dash was decentralized, I said it was shitty and everyone knows that its centralized masternodes fuck up its anonymity as anyone could be controlling those. Its shitty, however, it has made me quite a few BTC with its ups and downs. So imo it does have a purpose, to be pumped and dumped. To me it looks like Vanillacoin is in the same category.

Zerotime needs to be thoroughly tested and vetted by skilled community members. Does John have a bounty out on breaking Zerotime? Has anyone attempted it? If so then could you link me to that thread?

I don't know how to FUD in a more realistic way, probably because I don't FUD in the first place. I may have my own opinions but that is it.



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August 20, 2015, 10:02:47 AM
#46
I know this forum is full of hype but if one coin is such a screaming buy then it's Vanilla Coin.


Sounds like a shitcoin BUT isn't at all. (Which is why I think it's been overlooked)


Simple, it sends in under a second and is then instantly respendable, it does this without risk of double spend, no other coin does this. Plus it will soon be anonomous as an option.


Coins come and go but this practical ability makes it the obvious merchant coin for adoption. I love Bitcoin, always will but as a payment it sucks balls due to its need for confirmations to be safe. No big companies would risk online sales without some confirmations, meaning it's just gonna look slow to the average Joe.


Then you put these facts that won't go away and won't get tired like so many hyped functions AND you factor in that the marketcap is an Hilarious under 1M this has got to be the biggest oportunity I've seen for a couple of years.


Don't say I didn't tell you so... Grin

Node coin has instant transactions, been around for awhile
legendary
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August 20, 2015, 09:08:18 AM
#45
Vanillacoin is going to be dumped.
I don't see this coin getting successful.
full member
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August 20, 2015, 03:34:43 AM
#44



Vanilla coin is good. Everyone should own some of it.




If the name of a coin is so ridiculous I am not even willing to read further. Now I might miss this "golden opportunity" by ignoring it.

Are you seriously making your investment decisions based on a coin's name?
How about dogecoin? We all made good money on that one, but we all would have missed it if we would have applied your strategy.
As an investor, I look for opportunities, no matter what the coin is named, no matter how "rude" or "unfair" the dev is...

VNL has some of the most promising features I have seen in the last year or so...
I will hold my VNL, not because I got sentimental attached to it, but because I see the opportunities it has...
John Connor might not be the most tacktfull person, and neither has the greatest social skills, but he is damn good at what he's doing development wise... in the end that's what matters to me...

Regards

Goldmaxx

Couldn't have said it any better than that.
hero member
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August 20, 2015, 03:11:09 AM
#43



Vanilla coin is good. Everyone should own some of it.




If the name of a coin is so ridiculous I am not even willing to read further. Now I might miss this "golden opportunity" by ignoring it.

Are you seriously making your investment decisions based on a coin's name?
How about dogecoin? We all made good money on that one, but we all would have missed it if we would have applied your strategy.
As an investor, I look for opportunities, no matter what the coin is named, no matter how "rude" or "unfair" the dev is...

VNL has some of the most promising features I have seen in the last year or so...
I will hold my VNL, not because I got sentimental attached to it, but because I see the opportunities it has...
John Connor might not be the most tacktfull person, and neither has the greatest social skills, but he is damn good at what he's doing development wise... in the end that's what matters to me...

Regards

Goldmaxx
legendary
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August 19, 2015, 04:49:36 PM
#42



Vanilla coin is good. Everyone should own some of it.




If the name of a coin is so ridiculous I am not even willing to read further. Now I might miss this "golden opportunity" by ignoring it.
legendary
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amarha
August 19, 2015, 04:02:43 PM
#41

Coin gets a ton of FUD and lies and then those same people go about making a clone.....seen that before....usually it is the best advertising a coin can get that's it's something great. Did you ever see a clone more successful than the original? Where is NEM these days. Lol.


Yes, the Monero example I used was a good one. Even if lately the Bytecoin scammers have manipulated their market cap up higher for some short period of time, it's all bullshit.

Also, Litecoin was a clone of Tenebrix and I don't think many people have even heard of Tenebrix today.


Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. All these fudders missed VNL boat and waiting for a fresh one and they honestly wouldn't care about "Dishonest" past of code they will hype, after a rehash of the old arguments.



Truely hilarious that these same people who said the code is ripped off, doesn't work and won't stop Sybil attacks are NOW suggesting cloning.......YOU JUST CANT MAKE IT UP.

No. You two shouldn't try to twist my words. Personally I still wouldn't touch a VNC clone, as I haven't seen any evidence that it offers what it claims to, and refactored Bitcoin Core code is only going to be a disadvantage most likely. And if I did think that there was something there, I wouldn't be here posting about why people would be better off cloning it, rather I'd be putting together a team myself, and I'm certainly not doing that nor do I have the slightest desire to do so.

It was just some friendly advice for anyone who believes that there is value there to be had in the technology itself. Like I said, I highly doubt there is based on the unanimous derision from respected technical people in the community and I've yet to see anyone with any sort of positive reputation in the cryptocurrency scene come out with a positive outlook on what VNC offers. Feel free to get some reviews done by respected people and post them here, as I would be glad to read some more opinions.

Also, resorting to the term 'FUD', or calling anyone who doesn't agree 'fudders' often signals something with little substance in the crypto world. It's commonly used in altcoin communities that are desperate for a way to brush away criticism without taking an objective view of the situation.
legendary
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August 19, 2015, 02:20:20 PM
#40
The coin sounds cool and all but John is going to destroy it if he keeps alienating people with his attitudes and methods.

Fake whitepaper.
Fake code.
Fake investors.


The tech and coding is great I'll give him that but his methods are troubling.

If this is actually true in regards to vanilla coin than i do not see any way how this coin could be successful. People are already super wary about new coins, and acts like this will undoubtedly turn the masses away.

Yep, all the threads on VNC here lately have really dug a very deep hole for that coin which will be difficult to recover from imo. In 2015 most people here have seen it all before and have very little tolerance for any sort of dishonesty on the part of the developer.

My honest advice for OP and anyone else who is really convinced that the tech behind VNC is legit and ZT immune to sybil attacks is that they should get a group together, sell their VNC now, and use the proceeds from that to hire a new developer or two and fork VNC and go forward with a clean start. That seems like the most economically rational thing to do from where I'm sitting. Although in my experience in the altcoin scene people tend to put their emotional attachments ahead of their rationality, so I'm not going to be surprised if no one does that. Even with the skepticism around VNC now, I think a fair and transparent launch now with the VNC code base would probably attract a lot of people just because it would be something new.



Coin gets a ton of FUD and lies and then those same people go about making a clone.....seen that before....usually it is the best advertising a coin can get that's it's something great. Did you ever see a clone more successful than the original? Where is NEM these days. Lol.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. All these fudders missed VNL boat and waiting for a fresh one and they honestly wouldn't care about "Dishonest" past of code they will hype, after a rehash of the old arguments.



Truely hilarious that these same people who said the code is ripped off, doesn't work and won't stop Sybil attacks are NOW suggesting cloning.......YOU JUST CANT MAKE IT UP.
legendary
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August 19, 2015, 02:17:43 PM
#39
The reason its not going anywhere is because these things have been done before. We already have a coin that does anon and instant transactions. Even with something as innovative as Next and Bitshares they are still not "mooning".. too many coins, too many scams in crypto.. All the investors gone or back to BTC or just not interested.. I dunno.. I thought I would be rich by now.  Grin


I assume you mean DASH which is partially centralised. Maybe you didn't get rich cause you didn't research properly.

Dash, yeah been in and out of that one a few times. Vanilla, mined that one from the get go, sold it all on the first real pump a month or two ago. I didn't get rich because to me rich is several million USD and I'm not there yet.


My point still stands. You asked why its not going anywhere and that's because its another anon coin where we have several already. Dash, as shitty as it is, has first mover advantage. Just like bitcoin. Will Monero or Vanilla surpass it? My guess is probably not since user base (community) seems to be the deciding factor here. Why else would LTC and Doge do so well?


DASH is not decentralised.....what part of that don't you get?

No one has solved double spend with instant transactions with zero confirmations, all essential if we are to have a safe quick payment system.


The anonomous element really just the cherry on top. The big story is Zerotime.

can I suggest you research more or at least FUD is a more realistic way.
legendary
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August 19, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
#38
The reason its not going anywhere is because these things have been done before. We already have a coin that does anon and instant transactions. Even with something as innovative as Next and Bitshares they are still not "mooning".. too many coins, too many scams in crypto.. All the investors gone or back to BTC or just not interested.. I dunno.. I thought I would be rich by now.  Grin


I assume you mean DASH which is partially centralised. Maybe you didn't get rich cause you didn't research properly.

Dash, yeah been in and out of that one a few times. Vanilla, mined that one from the get go, sold it all on the first real pump a month or two ago. I didn't get rich because to me rich is several million USD and I'm not there yet.


My point still stands. You asked why its not going anywhere and that's because its another anon coin where we have several already. Dash, as shitty as it is, has first mover advantage. Just like bitcoin. Will Monero or Vanilla surpass it? My guess is probably not since user base (community) seems to be the deciding factor here. Why else would LTC and Doge do so well?
hero member
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August 19, 2015, 02:11:02 PM
#37
The coin sounds cool and all but John is going to destroy it if he keeps alienating people with his attitudes and methods.

Fake whitepaper.
Fake code.
Fake investors.


The tech and coding is great I'll give him that but his methods are troubling.

If this is actually true in regards to vanilla coin than i do not see any way how this coin could be successful. People are already super wary about new coins, and acts like this will undoubtedly turn the masses away.

Yep, all the threads on VNC here lately have really dug a very deep hole for that coin which will be difficult to recover from imo. In 2015 most people here have seen it all before and have very little tolerance for any sort of dishonesty on the part of the developer.

My honest advice for OP and anyone else who is really convinced that the tech behind VNC is legit and ZT immune to sybil attacks is that they should get a group together, sell their VNC now, and use the proceeds from that to hire a new developer or two and fork VNC and go forward with a clean start. That seems like the most economically rational thing to do from where I'm sitting. Although in my experience in the altcoin scene people tend to put their emotional attachments ahead of their rationality, so I'm not going to be surprised if no one does that. Even with the skepticism around VNC now, I think a fair and transparent launch now with the VNC code base would probably attract a lot of people just because it would be something new.



Coin gets a ton of FUD and lies and then those same people go about making a clone.....seen that before....usually it is the best advertising a coin can get that's it's something great. Did you ever see a clone more successful than the original? Where is NEM these days. Lol.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. All these fudders missed VNL boat and waiting for a fresh one and they honestly wouldn't care about "Dishonest" past of code they will hype, after a rehash of the old arguments.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
August 19, 2015, 02:02:23 PM
#36
The coin sounds cool and all but John is going to destroy it if he keeps alienating people with his attitudes and methods.

Fake whitepaper.
Fake code.
Fake investors.


The tech and coding is great I'll give him that but his methods are troubling.

If this is actually true in regards to vanilla coin than i do not see any way how this coin could be successful. People are already super wary about new coins, and acts like this will undoubtedly turn the masses away.

Yep, all the threads on VNC here lately have really dug a very deep hole for that coin which will be difficult to recover from imo. In 2015 most people here have seen it all before and have very little tolerance for any sort of dishonesty on the part of the developer.

My honest advice for OP and anyone else who is really convinced that the tech behind VNC is legit and ZT immune to sybil attacks is that they should get a group together, sell their VNC now, and use the proceeds from that to hire a new developer or two and fork VNC and go forward with a clean start. That seems like the most economically rational thing to do from where I'm sitting. Although in my experience in the altcoin scene people tend to put their emotional attachments ahead of their rationality, so I'm not going to be surprised if no one does that. Even with the skepticism around VNC now, I think a fair and transparent launch now with the VNC code base would probably attract a lot of people just because it would be something new.



Coin gets a ton of FUD and lies and then those same people go about making a clone.....seen that before....usually it is the best advertising a coin can get that's it's something great. Did you ever see a clone more successful than the original? Where is NEM these days. Lol.


legendary
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amarha
August 19, 2015, 01:40:12 PM
#35
The coin sounds cool and all but John is going to destroy it if he keeps alienating people with his attitudes and methods.

Fake whitepaper.
Fake code.
Fake investors.


The tech and coding is great I'll give him that but his methods are troubling.

If this is actually true in regards to vanilla coin than i do not see any way how this coin could be successful. People are already super wary about new coins, and acts like this will undoubtedly turn the masses away.

Yep, all the threads on VNC here lately have really dug a very deep hole for that coin which will be difficult to recover from imo. In 2015 most people here have seen it all before and have very little tolerance for any sort of dishonesty on the part of the developer.

My honest advice for OP and anyone else who is really convinced that the tech behind VNC is legit and ZT immune to sybil attacks is that they should get a group together, sell their VNC now, and use the proceeds from that to hire a new developer or two and fork VNC and go forward with a clean start. That seems like the most economically rational thing to do from where I'm sitting. Although in my experience in the altcoin scene people tend to put their emotional attachments ahead of their rationality, so I'm not going to be surprised if no one does that. Even with the skepticism around VNC now, I think a fair and transparent launch now with the VNC code base would probably attract a lot of people just because it would be something new.
legendary
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August 19, 2015, 12:42:58 PM
#34
The coin sounds cool and all but John is going to destroy it if he keeps alienating people with his attitudes and methods.

Fake whitepaper.
Fake code.
Fake investors.


The tech and coding is great I'll give him that but his methods are troubling.

If this is actually true in regards to vanilla coin than i do not see any way how this coin could be successful. People are already super wary about new coins, and acts like this will undoubtedly turn the masses away.
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