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Congratulations to the Celtics for winning the ECF. That was a hell of a game, Heat almost made it, if only Butler did not rush his decision, he shots a 3 point instead of attacking, I don't know what he was thinking, maybe he just want his team to be ahead, but his shot is not a high percentage shot, there's a better shot than that. What a waste of effort, they could have a comeback win.

I seriously think that Butler didn't rushed that shot, they cannot make it through the end of the game if he forced an OT. That is why he suddenly tried to shoot a long three even though he can make a 2 point shot if he chose to attack the paint. They were already tired and Bam Adebayo cannot force himself in the center because he was also busy on offensive while the others cannot make a shot.

Congratulations to the Boston Celtics especially Jayson Tatum for winning the ECF MVP award.

Jason Tatum deserves that award, he was a big contributor to the success of their team, so now it's going to be Curry vs Tatum as they are the best players on their respective team. It's a different kind of ball game, back to zero, and hopefully, a game 7 is possible again.

I'm indeed happy for him for having that MVP award and including Al Horford, he is now 35 years old and at last he now made an appearance in the NBA Finals.

As a leader, Curry and Tatum's mindset will be a big contributor to the team's success but without the help of their respective teams, their contribution and energy will just be wasted. As for Curry it's vs Marcus Smart and for Tatum it's vs Wiggins, yes I hope that the series will reach Game 7.

Quote from: Russlenat on May 31, 2022, 09:30:28 AM

It was a good decision to take a three to win the game at that moment but he made it tough for himself. He took it too quickly even if he's already tired and his teammates weren't set to help in rebound if he misses. It wasn't even a long three but he almost airballed that one. He could have made one more pass for a little breather and look for a screen.

As you said, they are already tired and we can really see how exhausted the whole team was especially Bam who cannot even do his thing because Butler needs his ability in offense. For sure they've talked about making that three point shot whenever they have an open shot and Butler did it but it didn't go through.

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It was a good decision to take a three to win the game at that moment but he made it tough for himself. He took it too quickly even if he's already tired and his teammates weren't set to help in rebound if he misses. It wasn't even a long three but he almost airballed that one. He could have made one more pass for a little breather and look for a screen.

There are lots of "what if" bro. What if he nailed it? That wrong decision will turn into a good decision, right? The play won't be wrong in the eyes of others since Butler made it. Actually, even some fans may be upset about the decision, it will be a different story if that 3 went it.

The Heat was rallying throughout the game and that was exhausting. Instead of fully blaming Jimmy Butler, blame his other teammates that only wake up in the final minutes like Oladipo and Lowry. If only these guys are red-hot early, Butler won't take much of the load to narrow down the lead.

I believe it's the bettors who blames Jimmy Butler for that quick 3 point shot he didn't made because even in my side, I always hear that he could have pass that ball to others who could make the shot at point blank or he can attack the paint and make the shot and maybe go for an overtime. I was just listening but I said to myself, if only they knew how tired was Jimmy Butler for carrying the team. He played for almost 50 minutes and barely rest in between quarters and time outs while his team are not that consistent.

It was a good play and the Miami Heat still deserves some credits mainly Jimmy Butler because they got to the conference finals.

I agree that people need to stop blaming Jimmy Butler. Yes, it was a bad attempt knowing there was no team mate in position to get the rebound and Jimmy Butler is not really the 3-point guy. But it's Jimmy Butler. He is the main reason why Miami Heat is the top seed in the east. He is the main reason why they reached eastern finals and made a gallant effort to reach the series at maximum game 7.

With the current Miami roster and its consistency, without Jimmy Butler they won't achieve it. In my opinion, they actually over achieved this season. Only Jimmy Butler, Adebayo and an old, injured P.J. Tucker passed the exams.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on May 30, 2022, 06:04:17 PM

It was a good decision to take a three to win the game at that moment but he made it tough for himself. He took it too quickly even if he's already tired and his teammates weren't set to help in rebound if he misses. It wasn't even a long three but he almost airballed that one. He could have made one more pass for a little breather and look for a screen.

There are lots of "what if" bro. What if he nailed it? That wrong decision will turn into a good decision, right? The play won't be wrong in the eyes of others since Butler made it. Actually, even some fans may be upset about the decision, it will be a different story if that 3 went it.

The Heat was rallying throughout the game and that was exhausting. Instead of fully blaming Jimmy Butler, blame his other teammates that only wake up in the final minutes like Oladipo and Lowry. If only these guys are red-hot early, Butler won't take much of the load to narrow down the lead.

I believe it's the bettors who blames Jimmy Butler for that quick 3 point shot he didn't made because even in my side, I always hear that he could have pass that ball to others who could make the shot at point blank or he can attack the paint and make the shot and maybe go for an overtime. I was just listening but I said to myself, if only they knew how tired was Jimmy Butler for carrying the team. He played for almost 50 minutes and barely rest in between quarters and time outs while his team are not that consistent.

It was a good play and the Miami Heat still deserves some credits mainly Jimmy Butler because they got to the conference finals.

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Celtics have made it! They didn't prove many people who were believing in them wrong and defeated Heat by only a gap of four points. The last moments were thrilling and Celtics let their opponent come more and start becoming hopeful for a comeback. However they still had things under control later and became victorious. There was a great team play by Celtics too. Tatum, Brown and Smart shared similar statistics. Butler's effort was in vain this time but I really liked his trying this hard.

Yeah, that last shot. Many would have thought that the story would be different if that came in for the Heat, but it didn't. We're going to see on Friday the very first match between the Celtics and the Warriors.
Since this thread is all about Heat and Celtics, I think it's now time to close the thread since there are other threads that would discuss the finals for NBA.

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Quote from: TravelMug on May 30, 2022, 08:08:41 PM

It was a good decision to take a three to win the game at that moment but he made it tough for himself. He took it too quickly even if he's already tired and his teammates weren't set to help in rebound if he misses. It wasn't even a long three but he almost airballed that one. He could have made one more pass for a little breather and look for a screen.

There are lots of "what if" bro. What if he nailed it? That wrong decision will turn into a good decision, right? The play won't be wrong in the eyes of others since Butler made it. Actually, even some fans may be upset about the decision, it will be a different story if that 3 went it.

I can look at this objectively and my stand remains that there was a better way to take it. I won't have a problem if he misses as long as he took more time to set up a good play before shooting a three.

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Of course, there are a lot of 'what if' in that scenario, maybe it was an ill advised shot, just like what Dame did against PG13 and the Clippers in a close out game.

Dame made it but I'm with PG13 that it was still a bad shot.

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It was a good decision to take a three to win the game at that moment but he made it tough for himself. He took it too quickly even if he's already tired and his teammates weren't set to help in rebound if he misses. It wasn't even a long three but he almost airballed that one. He could have made one more pass for a little breather and look for a screen.

There are lots of "what if" bro. What if he nailed it? That wrong decision will turn into a good decision, right? The play won't be wrong in the eyes of others since Butler made it. Actually, even some fans may be upset about the decision, it will be a different story if that 3 went it.

The Heat was rallying throughout the game and that was exhausting. Instead of fully blaming Jimmy Butler, blame his other teammates that only wake up in the final minutes like Oladipo and Lowry. If only these guys are red-hot early, Butler won't take much of the load to narrow down the lead.

Of course, there are a lot of 'what if' in that scenario, maybe it was an ill advised shot, just like what Dame did against PG13 and the Clippers in a close out game.

For sure it will haunt Jimmy Butler for the rest of his NBA career, but then again, that is his decision. If he made the shot then he will be the hero, simply as that.

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It was a good decision to take a three to win the game at that moment but he made it tough for himself. He took it too quickly even if he's already tired and his teammates weren't set to help in rebound if he misses. It wasn't even a long three but he almost airballed that one. He could have made one more pass for a little breather and look for a screen.

There are lots of "what if" bro. What if he nailed it? That wrong decision will turn into a good decision, right? The play won't be wrong in the eyes of others since Butler made it. Actually, even some fans may be upset about the decision, it will be a different story if that 3 went it.

The Heat was rallying throughout the game and that was exhausting. Instead of fully blaming Jimmy Butler, blame his other teammates that only wake up in the final minutes like Oladipo and Lowry. If only these guys are red-hot early, Butler won't take much of the load to narrow down the lead.

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Celtics have made it! They didn't prove many people who were believing in them wrong and defeated Heat by only a gap of four points. The last moments were thrilling and Celtics let their opponent come more and start becoming hopeful for a comeback. However they still had things under control later and became victorious. There was a great team play by Celtics too. Tatum, Brown and Smart shared similar statistics. Butler's effort was in vain this time but I really liked his trying this hard.

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Quote from: Questat on May 30, 2022, 10:35:05 AM

..... , Heat almost made it, if only Butler did not rush his decision, he shots a 3 point instead of attacking, I don't know what he was thinking, maybe he just want his team to be ahead, but his shot is not a high percentage shot, there's a better shot than that. What a waste of effort, they could have a comeback win.

I seriously think that Butler didn't rushed that shot, they cannot make it through the end of the game if he forced an OT. That is why he suddenly tried to shoot a long three even though he can make a 2 point shot if he chose to attack the paint. They were already tired and Bam Adebayo cannot force himself in the center because he was also busy on offensive while the others cannot make a shot.

It was a good decision to take a three to win the game at that moment but he made it tough for himself. He took it too quickly even if he's already tired and his teammates weren't set to help in rebound if he misses. It wasn't even a long three but he almost airballed that one. He could have made one more pass for a little breather and look for a screen.

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Quote from: Questat on May 30, 2022, 10:35:05 AM

Congratulations to the Celtics for winning the ECF. That was a hell of a game, Heat almost made it, if only Butler did not rush his decision, he shots a 3 point instead of attacking, I don't know what he was thinking, maybe he just want his team to be ahead, but his shot is not a high percentage shot, there's a better shot than that. What a waste of effort, they could have a comeback win.

I seriously think that Butler didn't rushed that shot, they cannot make it through the end of the game if he forced an OT. That is why he suddenly tried to shoot a long three even though he can make a 2 point shot if he chose to attack the paint. They were already tired and Bam Adebayo cannot force himself in the center because he was also busy on offensive while the others cannot make a shot.

Congratulations to the Boston Celtics especially Jayson Tatum for winning the ECF MVP award.

Jason Tatum deserves that award, he was a big contributor to the success of their team, so now it's going to be Curry vs Tatum as they are the best players on their respective team. It's a different kind of ball game, back to zero, and hopefully, a game 7 is possible again.

Yeah, it is expected that Jason Tatum will win the ECF MVP award no doubt about that.

And the Heat losses big time, they have their chances to win game 7, only if Butler hit that crucial 3 point they might win it as they will have a 1 point lead. But that's how the game is, and then the Heat again started slow that gives them a hard time to trying to get close as Boston is not going to give up that lead easily specially in a game 7.

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Jason Tatum deserves that award, he was a big contributor to the success of their team, so now it's going to be Curry vs Tatum as they are the best players on their respective team. It's a different kind of ball game, back to zero, and hopefully, a game 7 is possible again.

I do not see a game 7 in this series. Celtics are already tired, there is no way they can take it to 7 games with this tired legs. The first thing that goes away when you are super tired is the defense, then the offense becomes a bit more balls go short when you shoot type of situation, and that becomes an easy target for the other team.

What could warriors do? They could up the pace, and even if they miss, they could just run the ball constantly and shoot, play the famous 7 seconds or less ball. That will result with high possessions, and a lot of running, and that would ruin celtics. If I can think of that, think what Kerr could be planning now, it is going to be super easy for them.

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Celtics finally managed to eliminate Heat by the seventh game. But it wasn't easy for them certainly. While there were around three minutes left to the end, the game started to be more interesting. Marcus Smart wasted some chances and Heat punished their opponent after that. That three pointer was very important for Heat to stay in the game too. However they still couldn't make it and Celtics secured the 100-96 win. I appreciate Heat's performance a lot too during the whole series. They both deserved to advance.

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Congratulations to the Celtics for winning the ECF. That was a hell of a game, Heat almost made it, if only Butler did not rush his decision, he shots a 3 point instead of attacking, I don't know what he was thinking, maybe he just want his team to be ahead, but his shot is not a high percentage shot, there's a better shot than that. What a waste of effort, they could have a comeback win.

I seriously think that Butler didn't rushed that shot, they cannot make it through the end of the game if he forced an OT. That is why he suddenly tried to shoot a long three even though he can make a 2 point shot if he chose to attack the paint. They were already tired and Bam Adebayo cannot force himself in the center because he was also busy on offensive while the others cannot make a shot.

Congratulations to the Boston Celtics especially Jayson Tatum for winning the ECF MVP award.

Jason Tatum deserves that award, he was a big contributor to the success of their team, so now it's going to be Curry vs Tatum as they are the best players on their respective team. It's a different kind of ball game, back to zero, and hopefully, a game 7 is possible again.

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