Selling virtual goods are agains the ToS.
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Topic: eBay Deleting All Bitcoin Listings - page 3. (Read 12506 times)
Selling virtual goods are agains the ToS.
Common, be smart, sell bitbills.
Common, be smart, sell bitbills.
Not exactly surprising, except the mandatory indoctrination course you have to follow if you want to sell again, which is simply staggering. The 'tutorial' euphemism is a nice touch too.
The real issue is that they claim it's a copyright issue when BTC is open source. So they're flagging the listings under false pretenses and therefore their removal's are invalid.
The coins themselves aren't "open source" as such, but legally ebay can refuse whatever trade they want even if it makes no sense.
The real issue is that they claim it's a copyright issue when BTC is open source. So they're flagging the listings under false pretenses and therefore their removal's are invalid.
your private key isn't open source
Will
Ebay can very easily verify transfer through a message trail and the public block chain. There are no extra liabilities involved. Certainly no copyright issues.
This. Also the false pretenses. I'm going to call them and see what's really up, maybe squeeze some BS rhetoric out of them.
"violates intellectual property and copyright."
What a bunch of pompous idiots.
The real issue is that they claim it's a copyright issue when BTC is open source. So they're flagging the listings under false pretenses and therefore their removal's are invalid.
Ebay can very easily verify transfer through a message trail and the public block chain. There are no extra liabilities involved. Certainly no copyright issues.
Honestly I don't think this is a "serious attack on bitcoin" by eBay.
It makes a lot of sense not to sell/distribute digital goods because the copyright is much harder to control. A listing that reads "Selling copies of Justin Beiber 'baby baby baby'!!" would be fine if they are original CDs, but when it's digital goods, then the merchant can become a supplier/distributor and sell unlimited copies. I'm sure you can see the problem there.
eBay is simply preventing this, and digital currency fits under a broad category such as this. They are simply protecting their brand and don't want to be a free-for-all marketplace.
It makes a lot of sense not to sell/distribute digital goods because the copyright is much harder to control. A listing that reads "Selling copies of Justin Beiber 'baby baby baby'!!" would be fine if they are original CDs, but when it's digital goods, then the merchant can become a supplier/distributor and sell unlimited copies. I'm sure you can see the problem there.
eBay is simply preventing this, and digital currency fits under a broad category such as this. They are simply protecting their brand and don't want to be a free-for-all marketplace.
The thing is, they're claiming it violates the rules due to copyright on game characters - that makes no sense at all. Most likely they're applying the same rules as they would for WoW gold and there's a very slim chance someone could get ebay to change their mind.
That's just one of the examples they give for digital goods, it's not a specific citation of what was wrong with the listing. The reason they list game characters is because they are also a digital commodity, think "omg i just built up my lvl 65 mage, selling for $300!!1". Again, they just don't want to be a marketplace for those types of products. There are new (legally new and yet uncertain) liabilities that come with those types of products. Physical products have UPS tracking codes, and other securities like that.
They want to be useful/known for selling things like your mother's unused sewing machine, not neckbeard's level 65 mage.
Honestly I don't think this is a "serious attack on bitcoin" by eBay.
It makes a lot of sense not to sell/distribute digital goods because the copyright is much harder to control. A listing that reads "Selling copies of Justin Beiber 'baby baby baby'!!" would be fine if they are original CDs, but when it's digital goods, then the merchant can become a supplier/distributor and sell unlimited copies. I'm sure you can see the problem there.
eBay is simply preventing this, and digital currency fits under a broad category such as this. They are simply protecting their brand and don't want to be a free-for-all marketplace.
It makes a lot of sense not to sell/distribute digital goods because the copyright is much harder to control. A listing that reads "Selling copies of Justin Beiber 'baby baby baby'!!" would be fine if they are original CDs, but when it's digital goods, then the merchant can become a supplier/distributor and sell unlimited copies. I'm sure you can see the problem there.
eBay is simply preventing this, and digital currency fits under a broad category such as this. They are simply protecting their brand and don't want to be a free-for-all marketplace.
The thing is, they're claiming it violates the rules due to copyright on game characters - that makes no sense at all. Most likely they're applying the same rules as they would for WoW gold and there's a very slim chance someone could get ebay to change their mind.
It is my hope that in the coming months to year we will reach a point where we don't need ebay.
There are plenty of bidding sites where people can post their merchandise for bitcoins. And my BTC Economy plugin will find these posts and promote the merchandise across multiple sources to help drive-up sales.
There are plenty of bidding sites where people can post their merchandise for bitcoins. And my BTC Economy plugin will find these posts and promote the merchandise across multiple sources to help drive-up sales.
Some of the listings deserve to be removed, like one that was selling 0.01 btc for $6
Honestly I don't think this is a "serious attack on bitcoin" by eBay.
It makes a lot of sense not to sell/distribute digital goods because the copyright is much harder to control. A listing that reads "Selling copies of Justin Beiber 'baby baby baby'!!" would be fine if they are original CDs, but when it's digital goods, then the merchant can become a supplier/distributor and sell unlimited copies. I'm sure you can see the problem there.
eBay is simply preventing this, and digital currency fits under a broad category such as this. They are simply protecting their brand and don't want to be a free-for-all marketplace.
It makes a lot of sense not to sell/distribute digital goods because the copyright is much harder to control. A listing that reads "Selling copies of Justin Beiber 'baby baby baby'!!" would be fine if they are original CDs, but when it's digital goods, then the merchant can become a supplier/distributor and sell unlimited copies. I'm sure you can see the problem there.
eBay is simply preventing this, and digital currency fits under a broad category such as this. They are simply protecting their brand and don't want to be a free-for-all marketplace.
i guess the guys who were up there selling @ $50 Per btc made their money while they could.
Screw ebay
Sell USB sticks that just incidentally have wallet.dat files on them with 100 BTC. People sell "collectible ammunition boxes" on ebay all the time that just incidentally contain the ammunition.
Proof? I can't find any record of ammo boxes containing ammunition.
Selling anything intangible on ebay is a bad idea to begin with because of the risk of paypal chargebacks. Even if you pull the selling a flash drive that just happens to contain BTC scheme you still will be unlikely to win any chargeback from a scammer. Ebay/paypal always side with the buyer in any case and you can bet the person handling the dispute won't bother looking into exactly what bitcoin is before rendering a verdict.
Do you know if it's possible to restrict your listing to high feedback buyers now? That might help stop some of the scamming.
It still doesn't protect you in the instance where the account of someone with high feedback is phished and used to buy your auctions.
Selling anything intangible on ebay is a bad idea to begin with because of the risk of paypal chargebacks. Even if you pull the selling a flash drive that just happens to contain BTC scheme you still will be unlikely to win any chargeback from a scammer. Ebay/paypal always side with the buyer in any case and you can bet the person handling the dispute won't bother looking into exactly what bitcoin is before rendering a verdict.
Do you know if it's possible to restrict your listing to high feedback buyers now? That might help stop some of the scamming.
Sell USB sticks that just incidentally have wallet.dat files on them with 100 BTC. People sell "collectible ammunition boxes" on ebay all the time that just incidentally contain the ammunition.
Proof? I can't find any record of ammo boxes containing ammunition.
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