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Topic: Ebay - the first tech giant to accept Bitcoin? - page 6. (Read 6773 times)

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I don't think you guys understand how small of a profit margin some of these companies work on. Eliminating credit card fees is HUGE.

I know that Ebay gets a cut and then Paypal takes a cut so that for each sell the buyer pays the price bid, but the seller can get 5-10% taken out of the total.  Of course the sellers want to accept bitcoin, but does Ebay want to let them do that.  Buyers don't see the charges, but the sellers are including those fees in the prices they want to charge.  So yes, bitcoin can save buyers and sellers money, but not Ebay.  What do you think Ebay is going to do?
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Since ebay owns PayPal, this is unlikely to happen.

paypal insurance is how they made it big this business is not threatened by Bitcoin at all
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moneys not in retail. Ebay/Amazon, would not benefit BTC much inmho

It wouldn't benefit BTC? Are you nuts? Bitcoin is a currency, what good is it if we can't even buy things at two of the largest online retailers?

retail, is a small part of the economy, ebay and amazon sell alot of plascraptic deprecating assets. Real money is in financial instruments, forex, appreciating assets etc.

what does anyone even buy from ebay/amazon that is so essential?

Forex in one day is near 3 Trillion. That's more than ebay+amazon+ whoever else you want to put in, in a day.

ebay is worth what...6000 houses in a decent metro area, soo can house 18000 - 24000 people. That's not that much.
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I don't think you guys understand how small of a profit margin some of these companies work on. Eliminating credit card fees is HUGE.
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Since ebay owns PayPal, this is unlikely to happen.
Actually they will/have separated those 2 companies I believe.

Indeed, paypal owns ebay and paypal suspends account if any bitcoin - related transaction is done with paypal. That tells that they are strongly agains bitcoin?
Yet Ebay has an category for cryptocurrencies. No, the policy isn't really the same with both companies.
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Since ebay owns PayPal, this is unlikely to happen.

They just need a push in the right direction  Wink

Paypal president David Marcus - "I really like Bitcoin"

https://coinreport.net/david-marcus-paypal-bitcoin/

Paypal is not considered a bank but in many ways it operates like one. You can keep money in your account, spend it and accept money into the account like a bank . Also they offer debit card services, just like a bank would.

The reality is Bitcoin and Paypal are direct competition. More so than fiat and Bitcoin. Paypal is an internet Payment processor, dealing in cash. Bitcoin is a currency and payment platform that seeks to circumvent the need for middlemen. Bitcoin is designed to cut companies like Paypal out of the picture.

So in order for Ebay to accept Bitcoin, they will be making a conscious decision to accept less money via Paypal. I don't know if that is a good business decision for them. They pretty much have a lock down on their customer base by requiring Paypal on most transactions. And of course they levy a nice fee on all of those transactions. Why would they change that? If they did accept Bitcoin I can almost guarantee that they will have some sort of "service fee" attached to all bitcoin transactions in order to recoup lost Paypal money.

Apple worried that ipad mini might cannibalize sells of ipad air.  They were right and it did, but the end result was more ipads total sold and therefore more money for Apple.  Ebay is in the making money business.  Remember the scene from Fight Club where the guy explains about the formulas big insurance companies use when deciding to pay or not pay, well..... Ebay has those same sleazy number crunchers and when one of them says Ebay will make more money and not less by accepting bitcoin, they will.  Same with Amazon, and same with all the rest.  Ebay will let PayPal slip down some if it means more profit total.  That is the rule of for profit companies and those that don't follow fall away.  Ebay know this and so do the rest. 

TigerDirect did the numbers and realized they would get a bump, not so much from the bitcoin, but from the publicity.  It worked. Bitcoin wasn't a revolutionary new way to make money for Tiger or Overstock, it was cheap advertising.  Ebay and Amazon don't need that advertising.  If bitcoin wins them, bitcoin has become a very serious player. 
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moneys not in retail. Ebay/Amazon, would not benefit BTC much inmho

It wouldn't benefit BTC? Are you nuts? Bitcoin is a currency, what good is it if we can't even buy things at two of the largest online retailers?
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moneys not in retail. Ebay/Amazon, would not benefit BTC much inmho
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Ebay will never accept bitcoin, they have paypal!
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Since ebay owns PayPal, this is unlikely to happen.

This.

Paypal are such fucking scammers. Just the other day i got a chargeback from a scammer (a buyer) for a 15$ sale and i was charged 10$ in reversal fees on top of that !!

What a fucking joke.

I had a chargeback from a buyer who said that it was a fraudulent purchase and I even had the delivery confirmation with a signature (and he signed it his name)


That chargeback is successful even with that signed delivery confrimation?  Shocked

That's Paypal for you...they pretty much automatically take the buyer's side in any conflict. And by extension, so does Ebay. Some time ago Ebay even removed the option for sellers to give negative feedback to buyers. Read their policies its ridiculous. That's why so many people are looking for alternatives.
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Since ebay owns PayPal, this is unlikely to happen.

This.

Paypal are such fucking scammers. Just the other day i got a chargeback from a scammer (a buyer) for a 15$ sale and i was charged 10$ in reversal fees on top of that !!

What a fucking joke.

I had a chargeback from a buyer who said that it was a fraudulent purchase and I even had the delivery confirmation with a signature (and he signed it his name)


That chargeback is successful even with that signed delivery confrimation?  Shocked
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Since ebay owns PayPal, this is unlikely to happen.

This.

Paypal are such fucking scammers. Just the other day i got a chargeback from a scammer (a buyer) for a 15$ sale and i was charged 10$ in reversal fees on top of that !!

What a fucking joke.

I had a chargeback from a buyer who said that it was a fraudulent purchase and I even had the delivery confirmation with a signature (and he signed it his name)
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Since ebay owns PayPal, this is unlikely to happen.

This.

Paypal are such fucking scammers. Just the other day i got a chargeback from a scammer (a buyer) for a 15$ sale and i was charged 10$ in reversal fees on top of that !!

What a fucking joke.
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I don't see ebay accepting BTC anytime soon, because there is still so much chargebacks and fraud going on with ebay.  Since with BTC, the buyer doesn't really have that much protection...there needs to be some sort of infrastructure created that protects both sides.
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The thing is that Paypal doesn't deal in actual currency but in debt so had they began accepting Bitcoin not a single thing would change, it would probably make Bitcoin worse due to fractional reserve banking, there would then be 50, 100, 500 million Bitcoins in "existence" since everyone would keep their balance on Paypal without having control over the private keys.

But they do deal in currency. You can "deposit" money into your Paypal account just like you would a bank account. Its not their money its yours. They are holding the funds until you spend it or withdraw it. Just like a bank.

You can "deposit" debt, they don't accept currency deposits. You cannot send them the bills.

Not true.

https://www.paypal-cash.com/

They don't have branches or atms like a normal bank, but they absolutely accept bills. You can also withdraw cash, or by check (not really cash...but close). Its just done at a service counter, at a place like CVS for example, instead of a typical bank branch.
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The thing is that Paypal doesn't deal in actual currency but in debt so had they began accepting Bitcoin not a single thing would change, it would probably make Bitcoin worse due to fractional reserve banking, there would then be 50, 100, 500 million Bitcoins in "existence" since everyone would keep their balance on Paypal without having control over the private keys.

But they do deal in currency. You can "deposit" money into your Paypal account just like you would a bank account. Its not their money its yours. They are holding the funds until you spend it or withdraw it. Just like a bank.

You can "deposit" debt, they don't accept currency deposits. You cannot send them the bills.
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you need to look at the people and organizations that are behind the development ripple to answer your question

I don't care to. I got my free ripple a while back... and have no further use for it. Either you can explain here, or I'll move along.
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you need to look at the people and organizations that are behind the development ripple to answer your question
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if ebay use anything it will be ripple

Why? It's out of their control. What benefit would ripple be to paypal, that paypal couldn't implement themselves?
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