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Topic: [Ebitz Signature Campaign] - [STOPPED!!] - page 4. (Read 18578 times)

hero member
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Always Act Smart and Play Safe With Your Funds
December 03, 2016, 12:25:55 AM
I'm happy with whatever arrangements Avirunes and Luptin have made and I respect their decision.
legendary
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December 02, 2016, 10:57:07 PM
i  hope today of payment can be completed,because I really needed something with bitcoin,.

I wait

It was already confirmed that payment will be today! You don't have to be worred about that. As i can see, problem is about the rest of founds.

It is quite high amount  (3.19 BTC) - do you guys have idea how to distribute it among the participants?

I already said it somewhere that deciding about rest of the funds will be too early atm. It is something me and Lutpin has decided to think about it later.

Nobody doubts in your good intentions. Of course, it takes time, but it would be good to acknowledge publicly how much of this time is needed. In such situations, the most important thing is transparency.
Just my 2 satoshi Wink
legendary
Activity: 3094
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December 02, 2016, 10:47:10 PM
i  hope today of payment can be completed,because I really needed something with bitcoin,.

I wait

It was already confirmed that payment will be today! You don't have to be worred about that. As i can see, problem is about the rest of founds.

It is quite high amount  (3.19 BTC) - do you guys have idea how to distribute it among the participants?

I already said it somewhere that deciding about rest of the funds will be too early atm. It is something me and Lutpin has decided to think about it later.
legendary
Activity: 2002
Merit: 1016
December 02, 2016, 10:39:59 PM
i  hope today of payment can be completed,because I really needed something with bitcoin,.

I wait

It was already confirmed that payment will be today! You don't have to be worred about that. As i can see, problem is about the rest of founds.

It is quite high amount  (3.19 BTC) - do you guys have idea how to distribute it among the participants?
hero member
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December 02, 2016, 10:33:42 PM
I'm wondering about something. You said that total amount of money that will get redistributed will be about 1BTC. What about the other 3BTC ? Will they go in Lutpin's pocket Roll Eyes ?

At least a portion of that coin will go to paying the translators who did translations for EBitz and never got paid. Another portion probably will go to Lutpin and Avirunes themselves for escrowing and managing the campaign.

If there is anything left over then they will probably distribute it fairly to the people scammed in the ICO however little it might be. It is still something, and IMO Lutpin isn't the sort of person to keep something that doesn't belong to him to himself.
legendary
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December 02, 2016, 10:30:53 PM
i  hope today of payment can be completed,because I really needed something with bitcoin,.

I wait
full member
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December 02, 2016, 10:21:38 PM
I'm wondering about something. You said that total amount of money that will get redistributed will be about 1BTC. What about the other 3BTC ? Will they go in Lutpin's pocket Roll Eyes ?
Really now? That's reaching.

And @everyone else asking to have the 4 BTC divided equally to participants, come on, wearing a sig for 2 weeks and you want to get paid for the full 7 weeks or more??  Roll Eyes Do not forget

There's still the matter of those investors who got scammed. The remainder of the funds should be divided between them.
(however much/little each one ends up getting since it's basically their money.) Although this method seems most fair, it'll certainly add more work for both Avirunes and Lutpin.
legendary
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December 02, 2016, 08:03:48 PM
Why not pay any full course to all members, who have joined this signature, with what has been stated in the op of this thread, is quite simple and not so complicated, if the remaining BTC may be sufficient for a manager and who was willing to give the news on this site .. Huh Huh Huh
They are paying full. The title says XBTC/week for your participation, and the campaign lasted under 2 weeks. Seriously people, don't expect to be paid for 7 weeks when you join for 2 weeks. If you joined a campaign that would last for 10 weeks, got kicked out for spam in the third week, would you expect to be paid for the other 7 weeks? No.
hero member
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December 02, 2016, 07:06:40 PM
But seeing the funds provided for this signature big enough around 4 BTC, and spend only about 0.9 BTC to pay for all members, so that I question the rest of the funding will you give it back or to for the manager of the signature ??
Man, Avirunes already told what will happen with the rest amount
-snip-

Returning it to campaign owner is something that will not happen.

We are still thinking about its best use but atm remaining funds will be in escrow and will check further how things goes on next.
They are still discussing what would be best idea about the rest amount.
Why not pay any full course to all members, who have joined this signature, with what has been stated in the op of this thread, is quite simple and not so complicated, if the remaining BTC may be sufficient for a manager and who was willing to give the news on this site .. Huh Huh Huh
hero member
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December 02, 2016, 06:44:02 PM
But seeing the funds provided for this signature big enough around 4 BTC, and spend only about 0.9 BTC to pay for all members, so that I question the rest of the funding will you give it back or to for the manager of the signature ??
Man, Avirunes already told what will happen with the rest amount
-snip-

Returning it to campaign owner is something that will not happen.

We are still thinking about its best use but atm remaining funds will be in escrow and will check further how things goes on next.
They are still discussing what would be best idea about the rest amount.
sr. member
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December 02, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
I just see the conversation in this thread, I think it really should not need no refunds also to the Ebitz because their sites Scam, then let's leave something open here that better provide for funding a signature campaign around 50% and managers 50% it seen to be fair, I saw it was only about 20% of the total budget of around 4 BTC
sr. member
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December 02, 2016, 05:10:28 PM
I'm wondering about something. You said that total amount of money that will get redistributed will be about 1BTC. What about the other 3BTC ? Will they go in Lutpin's pocket Roll Eyes ?
legendary
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December 02, 2016, 01:01:53 PM
First of all we 0 poster doesn't know that it is going be a scam.as it was 7 week long campaign so there was plenty of time afterward to make posts.
Second,0 post doesn't mean that 0 advertising ,as we already have back posts which can do some of advertising.
Third ,the final decision lie on your hand so we cant change it.
The sig camp rule says that the company will pay the post(s) you have made, not for wearing the signature only. I think the decision and calculation Avirunes did are pretty fair. I'm not saying it because I get paid, but its not an easy task for manager to arrange such things in rush after the unexpected happens. So, Avirunes does a great job as a responsible manager. About the rest of escrowed fund, that would be better imo if it divided to those who have been scammed by Ebitz, although its not same amount they lost.
hero member
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December 02, 2016, 12:32:40 PM
I want to ask a question why my total payout in the spreadsheet is 0.00125 only . I don't know why. I wear signature in 2weeks . I not reach 30min post requirement in 7weeks but the signature campaign stop in 2weeks only  I did not reach 30 post because there are 5 weeks to reach it. Plss give equal action for the payout who wearing signature and avatar even  have no post  or even not reach 30post .

Thanks op.

Check back again. It is 0.0056BTC (0.0014btc*4 posts) . Adjusted rates were applied since you were put in 1st round and your post count was less than 8.


i want to ask sir
why if post under 10 is two week, payment system use base pay per post example 0.0014 * 4 = 0.0056
but if post over 30, payment system not use base pay per post 30 * 0.0014 = 0.042 , but payment only weekly 0.006 *2(2week) , only reserve 0.012

i think must constant on the rule, if system pay per post, all paticipant can to pay per post
if payment system use weekly, all participant use weekly payment without post calculate

Its less than 8 not 10.  Roll Eyes

That will leave many signature campaign participant unpaid for the single post even if they made that I don't wanted it to happen and end like this.

I agree that this was something that should be done on one rule: either fixed pay rate or standard. Since standard wasn't previously discussed as in OP, fixed was the only choice  and that too left many users not eligible for payout.

Believe me this was the best thing possible to pay out participants fairly.
But seeing the funds provided for this signature big enough around 4 BTC, and spend only about 0.9 BTC to pay for all members, so that I question the rest of the funding will you give it back or to for the manager of the signature ??
legendary
Activity: 3094
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December 02, 2016, 11:37:39 AM
I want to ask a question why my total payout in the spreadsheet is 0.00125 only . I don't know why. I wear signature in 2weeks . I not reach 30min post requirement in 7weeks but the signature campaign stop in 2weeks only  I did not reach 30 post because there are 5 weeks to reach it. Plss give equal action for the payout who wearing signature and avatar even  have no post  or even not reach 30post .

Thanks op.

Check back again. It is 0.0056BTC (0.0014btc*4 posts) . Adjusted rates were applied since you were put in 1st round and your post count was less than 8.


i want to ask sir
why if post under 10 is two week, payment system use base pay per post example 0.0014 * 4 = 0.0056
but if post over 30, payment system not use base pay per post 30 * 0.0014 = 0.042 , but payment only weekly 0.006 *2(2week) , only reserve 0.012

i think must constant on the rule, if system pay per post, all paticipant can to pay per post
if payment system use weekly, all participant use weekly payment without post calculate

Its less than 8 not 10.  Roll Eyes

That will leave many signature campaign participant unpaid for the single post even if they made that I don't wanted it to happen and end like this.

I agree that this was something that should be done on one rule: either fixed pay rate or standard. Since standard wasn't previously discussed as in OP, fixed was the only choice  and that too left many users not eligible for payout.

Believe me this was the best thing possible to pay out participants fairly.
hero member
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December 02, 2016, 11:16:27 AM
I want to ask a question why my total payout in the spreadsheet is 0.00125 only . I don't know why. I wear signature in 2weeks . I not reach 30min post requirement in 7weeks but the signature campaign stop in 2weeks only  I did not reach 30 post because there are 5 weeks to reach it. Plss give equal action for the payout who wearing signature and avatar even  have no post  or even not reach 30post .

Thanks op.

Check back again. It is 0.0056BTC (0.0014btc*4 posts) . Adjusted rates were applied since you were put in 1st round and your post count was less than 8.


i want to ask sir
why if post under 10 is two week, payment system use base pay per post example 0.0014 * 4 = 0.0056
but if post over 30, payment system not use base pay per post 30 * 0.0014 = 0.042 , but payment only weekly 0.006 *2(2week) , only reserve 0.012

i think must constant on the rule, if system pay per post, all paticipant can to pay per post
if payment system use weekly, all participant use weekly payment without post calculate
legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1468
December 02, 2016, 11:14:49 AM
First of all we 0 poster doesn't know that it is going be a scam.as it was 7 week long campaign so there was plenty of time afterward to make posts.

Things changed so I did what was best suited atm. So do you want me to pay 0 posters. Any valid reason for paying them. Furthermore can you please count me no.  of participants who had 0 posts now but can post 30 posts and are eligible for payout? Also please check for negative users also who might get negged during the upcoming week of campaign if continued.? Can you run down on it??  Roll Eyes

Certainly not.!!

Second,0 post doesn't mean that 0 advertising ,as we already have back posts which can do some of advertising.

We were only paying for posts made during the campaign period and not the back posts. Most of the campaigns had same approach except one - coindouble.


Third ,the final decision lie on your hand so we cant change it.

I am always open for the best suggestion. If I feel suggestion is good and better, I will really think about it and will be glad to put it and see it in action.
sr. member
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December 02, 2016, 10:59:26 AM
Why you don't pay those post 0, they enrolled but they don't have time to post, maybe they are busy, and you still have 3.1 btc, you want to refund to the scammer? Makes no sense. IMO, you pay all propotionally to the total 4 btc fund, and also you deduct some for your escrow, managaement fee.


Care to tell me how that will be sound and fair? 0 post means 0 advertising.

Lets leave the rest atm. I assure you that remaining funds will be put for the best use later on. You can bookmark the escrow address link if you want to see movement of funds.

Thinking about rest of funds now will be too early. So atm Lutpin and I have decided to check how things go up.
First of all we 0 poster doesn't know that it is going be a scam.as it was 7 week long campaign so there was plenty of time afterward to make posts.
Second,0 post doesn't mean that 0 advertising ,as we already have back posts which can do some of advertising.
Third ,the final decision lie on your hand so we cant change it.
legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1468
December 02, 2016, 09:39:58 AM
Why you don't pay those post 0, they enrolled but they don't have time to post, maybe they are busy, and you still have 3.1 btc, you want to refund to the scammer? Makes no sense. IMO, you pay all propotionally to the total 4 btc fund, and also you deduct some for your escrow, managaement fee.


Care to tell me how that will be sound and fair? 0 post means 0 advertising.

Lets leave the rest atm. I assure you that remaining funds will be put for the best use later on. You can bookmark the escrow address link if you want to see movement of funds.

Thinking about rest of funds now will be too early. So atm Lutpin and I have decided to check how things go up.
hero member
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December 02, 2016, 09:32:50 AM
Hi Avirunes,

I removed signature and personal text. My counting is correct.

So what about rest of escrowed BTC - do you return them to the campaign owner?
Maybe I thought 3.1BTC rest will be given to the management of the manager's signature ..
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