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Space exploration is not something I have been interested in for a long time. But, ever since I started seeing SpaceX and the progress they have made in terms of space technology, I feel really impressed. Things are really going to change when it get perfects. I read some of my country's rich people have already booked land in moon and mars. So, space exploration got high impact on economy or our day to day life.

Although this doesn’t have anything to do with cryptocurrency directly as of now, it’s just another thing on its own and won’t have any impact here, but it’s still a major progress in humanity. As for all these Mars talk, lol that’s something that never really interests me. I just don’t know why lol. Maybe because I usually feel like it’s of no need, though I don’t really like talking about the reason I feel so lol. But, everything is good, and I hope to see more positive progress.
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Update: Elon Musk, the founder of SpaceX reported few hours ago through his Twitter handle that they are currently building spaceports to facilitate interplanetary movements as well as launches within earth
SpaceX is building floating, superheavy-class spaceports for Mars, moon & hypersonic travel around Earth
In a later comment, he wrote that; the first Earth to earth test flight could happen in two or three years.
His tweet was a response to a report that they were hiring Offshore Operation Engineers in Brownsville

As I predicted in the OP, this project is already creating more jobs (although it's still within a very nice area) but with further growth it could widen

Hypersonic trips would cut down travel time greatly, if you're not in a particular hurry you'll likely be taking regular flights, buy how do you think this can affect transportation?
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I doubt there would be too much differences because we are talking about a period where we are so improved that we can send people to mars and actually will need to spend money, that is a looooong time from now. Plus if you could have satellites on earth that helps it out so much, you could have it on mars as well I am sure, I don't know how it all works but I am definitely sure it could happen.

So, when we are soooo further in civilization that we will need to spend crypto on mars, we are going to be improved on many other things as well which would help us use crypto there as well. However if we still haven't discovered it at all, we could simply just fork bitcoin to "bitcoin mars" or something that would only work on mars and nowhere else and they could use that if they want to.
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Will Bitcoin work in space..? that is the question that you should be answering. We have to remember that due to the distances, there might be some communication delays and these delays would cause synchronization issues with the Blockchain on earth.
Well the internet is the satellite, I think it is quickest when it is nearer at those satellites, the question "will bitcoin work in space?" of course it does. There will be just problems if it is a mile far from the internet atmosphere coz it has a limited cover.

So, you will have to implement a off-chain solution that will have to cache transactions between planets and only submit the transaction after it reached Earth.
The delay is not a problem for cryptocurrencies in space simply because you won't be needing it in space. What are you going to do with bitcoin in Mars? what would you buy? a spaceship? Testing planetary range transaction is pointless, you won't be getting any progress with that unless we start to inhabit in Mars, just like what Elon Musk is thinking.
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At the moment, the launch of Crew Dragon proved only one thing, namely, it proved that Elon is crazy (a bit) but not a fraud.
Then it all depends on the demand for launches. Yes, America will no longer need Baikonur or Vostochny for launches. If Musk manages to catch the right demand and this demand will pay for further development-we are waiting for what I think is really breakthrough things (after all, for many decades, space technologies after a full run-in pass into everyday life). If the demand ends without starting it is sad and Musk will remain an eccentric billionaire who has missiles.
If btc goes to the moon will I go to space? No, and few people can afford to do it in the next 10-20 years without spending entire budget (or if you are a very rich person). But I want to believe that now a new story of technical breakthrough begins and that soon we will see things that
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Will Bitcoin work in space..? that is the question that you should be answering. We have to remember that due to the distances, there might be some communication delays and these delays would cause synchronization issues with the Blockchain on earth.

" Mars is so far away in fact that it takes radio signals quite a long time to get from the spacecraft back to Earth. During Curiosity EDL, this delay will be 13 minutes, 48 seconds, about mid-way between the minimum delay of around 4 minutes and the maximum of around 24 minutes. " - Source : https://blogs.esa.int/mex/2012/08/05/time-delay-between-mars-and-earth/

So, you will have to implement a off-chain solution that will have to cache transactions between planets and only submit the transaction after it reached Earth.
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There are, however, potentially major challenges for anyone wanting to mine such an asteroid. How do you get it back to Earth through the atmosphere and land it without destroying the planet? Who do you sell it to in space if you can’t get it back to Earth?
Source: https://physicsworld.com/a/the-asteroid-trillionaires/

Going there and then mine all the metals is one issue, and then transport it to the earth is another issue. So much risk involved there hence I'm not sure if private companies can bear all those risks.

I've heard some compelling arguments about Columbus was funded by the government i.e., The Kingdom of Spain, therefore this kind of project might (only) be possible with the government's money.

Big risk, bigger reward.
Commercial space flights were said to not be viable, it would always need central funding - but that is no longer the case.
Commercial space exploitation is the logical next step. Yes, there will be huge logistical challenges, but when the rewards are this lucrative, there will be a lot of effort put into achieving the goal. I wouldn't bet against it.
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What impacts do you predict this would have and should Bitcoin go to the moon, would you be boarding a rocket to space?
It's going to be an expensive trip so, I'll save myself for that and would be happy to see others getting there soon. Musk holds a small amount of bitcoin and who knows if a logo of bitcoin will be attached to one of his rockets.
I read somewhere that it is estimated to cost about $50 million when space tourism would become a possibility, it's a high fee, but there are a number of people who would be able to afford that.
The possibilities are only propositions now, we're yet to see how SpaceX and other private companies would push on. Due to the effort that goes into a launch, I guess it'll be another couple of years before we get a solid update as safety measure and trials takes time.
Yes, that might be an expensive trip for everyone but people who are on and above the level of rich living and can consider this amount affordable, they would pay for that unforgettable experience. Those upcoming years will surely be a great contribution to the economy and like what we're seeing after the launch, this is just nothing compared to what's coming when it's already able to bring tourism in space.

It's going to be an expensive trip so, I'll save myself for that and would be happy to see others getting there soon. Musk holds a small amount of bitcoin and who knows if a logo of bitcoin will be attached to one of his rockets.
Musk's is a true definition of privacy, he is so clever that none of us know if he's saying is true or not. Just look at his twitter account. We don't even know how many bitcoins he got.  Huh
He said that he owned 0.25BTC to JK Rowling but we can't be sure if he's just giving a small amount or that's the reality. As for me, I don't think a person like him owns that small quantity of bitcoin and knowing that he's into technology.
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Commercial space exploration will also bring about some novel blockchain based project tailored toward this space exploration
I won't be surprised if this happens, many unpractical projects which had nothing to do with the block chain technology has been launched on it over the years. Space exploration would have little or no impact on the blockchain or cryptocurrencies, we're just beginning to explore this space and it will be a while before we fully harness the possibilities it brings.

What impacts do you predict this would have and should Bitcoin go to the moon, would you be boarding a rocket to space?
It's going to be an expensive trip so, I'll save myself for that and would be happy to see others getting there soon. Musk holds a small amount of bitcoin and who knows if a logo of bitcoin will be attached to one of his rockets.
I read somewhere that it is estimated to cost about $50 million when space tourism would become a possibility, it's a high fee, but there are a number of people who would be able to afford that.
The possibilities are only propositions now, we're yet to see how SpaceX and other private companies would push on. Due to the effort that goes into a launch, I guess it'll be another couple of years before we get a solid update as safety measure and trials takes time.
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I have been reading for over a decade now on how they want to make space exploration a tourism in which people can travel into the space station through commercial transport system. If this is achieved, it will be a great thing to see people using bitcoin to buy space tickets just the way bitcoin can be used to purchase delta airplane ticket on bitpay. Commercial space exploration will also bring about some novel blockchain based project tailored toward this space exploration
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How will the common man benefit from something like this? Asteriod mining? Seriously? For example, people usually purchase the Xbox or Playstation or Switch currently for gaming. A small percentile purchase VR headsets linked to these platforms.
That is what I have thought of too, I agree that this will generate jobs but I do not think that the profit for space is not yet that much albeit it is pivotal moment to space exploration, it is still not yet available to common people, with the price of each spacesuits, I do not think we are near to the Cowboy Bebop era where space travel is like riding an airplane. With the question above whether the common man will benefit from it, my answer is that they will benefit from it though most of it is indirectly being generating jobs the most obvious, in my opinion, many will benefit from this because there will new studies that will be tried by more people because they have access to space travel, tourism will be small because most people that could afford it will be few but each will have to pay hefty amounts of money and I am optimistic that that will be enough for them to get back what they invested.
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Well, we are not really at the "exploration" part just yet. We literally just had our first private company carrying humans to outside of earth level, it is not even moon, it is not anywhere, it is ISS that is on the orbit of the earth. Is it a huge deal? Of course it is, this is unbelievably huge deal and I am super happy about it, but I am not expecting a mars colony next year, this is not something you go ahead full on without care.

We are going to take decades until we can go to another galaxy, we are going to be very careful about what we do next. Starting a space exploration should be done slowly and surely, we can't afford to just blow up some rocket with people in it because of simple mistakes. Hence the discussions should not be about what could be but should be about what is right now and how to improve that for the future.
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I feel like you are exaggerating the impact of this particular feat op. I acknowledge that this is a monumental event in space exploration, but it expecting the economy to benefit from this in a big way is a bit of a stretch.

Currently, the entire world is reeling from recession thanks to COVID which is why it would take years to recover from this catastrophe. Private space exploration is only suitable for the ultra elite who constitute less than 1% of the world population.

How will the common man benefit from something like this? Asteriod mining? Seriously? For example, people usually purchase the Xbox or Playstation or Switch currently for gaming. A small percentile purchase VR headsets linked to these platforms.

Private space exploration is similar to these VR headsets in my opinion. The only big improvement will probably be observed in certain forms of technology.

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One thing that is also worth noting in this space launch is the possibility of NASA partnering with other private firms for better results and not really constrained to the limits of the budget set by the Federal government. The relationship would be somewhat mutual, although the investor who provided the budget would of course benefit the longer end of the stick as it opens up different possibilities to the investor's venture, possibly mining space rocks with the help of the experimental data gathered by NASA etc etc.

SpaceX exposure on that historical launch and the successful (and satisfying) re-entry of the Falcon engines might rise to the possibilities of space tourism. It was 10 or so years in the making, and back then people are still mocking the use of reusable rocket to cut costs, but then this manned launch happened. I might be quite optimistic and too sci-fi-centric on this comment but perhaps this event might spark the start of the human race as a space-faring civilization, albeit only within our solar system for resources and whatnot. Nevertheless, it actually opened our eyes that there exists a place left unexplored beyond our home, and that is what Space X and NASA is trying to do every day.

Prepare to see a lot of startups focused on logistics, planning and physics of mining space rocks (asteroids) and taking them back to earth for fortune.
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I'm just a bit questionable about the timing though I know it was planned few years ago but did they not consider the fact that the world is having a problem due to the pandemic?
I've thought of this but, IMO it's timely and good to boost the feelings of everyone that's thinking of how bad this pandemic is. In the past, space explorations became the talks and gathered a lot of attention of the entire world and nothing has changed.
Me too, I thought it was a throwback since they can't totally move right now but upon visiting a news website it turns out to me a true event. Though we cannot question coz they are "private" I'm just also a bit confuse that all of a sudden we are going to see a news like this coz we have been bombarded by covid news lately. We know earth lesser than the space, it is true, we know the ocean on its 1% only from living creatures to the deepest ground, maybe space is more reachable than our own planet that's why they keep on doing that.

This will create competition and we might see a competitor soon.
These countries will going to recover first before anything else, there will be competition among these organization but that would take longer as the pandemic is still ongoing.

What impacts do you predict this would have and should Bitcoin go to the moon, would you be boarding a rocket to space?
It's going to be an expensive trip so, I'll save myself for that and would be happy to see others getting there soon. Musk holds a small amount of bitcoin and who knows if a logo of bitcoin will be attached to one of his rockets.
Musk's is a true definition of privacy, he is so clever that none of us know if he's saying is true or not. Just look at his twitter account. We don't even know how many bitcoins he got.  Huh
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@Cnut237

In the same article you propose:
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There are, however, potentially major challenges for anyone wanting to mine such an asteroid. How do you get it back to Earth through the atmosphere and land it without destroying the planet? Who do you sell it to in space if you can’t get it back to Earth?
Source: https://physicsworld.com/a/the-asteroid-trillionaires/

Going there and then mine all the metals is one issue, and then transport it to the earth is another issue. So much risk involved there hence I'm not sure if private companies can bear all those risks.

I've heard some compelling arguments about Columbus was funded by the government i.e., The Kingdom of Spain, therefore this kind of project might (only) be possible with the government's money.
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I'm just a bit questionable about the timing though I know it was planned few years ago but did they not consider the fact that the world is having a problem due to the pandemic?
I've thought of this but, IMO it's timely and good to boost the feelings of everyone that's thinking of how bad this pandemic is. In the past, space explorations became the talks and gathered a lot of attention of the entire world and nothing has changed.

Except the fact that it's SpaceX, a private company together with NASA.

I'm thinking the impact of this launch for other countries that are looking forward to have the same launch as SpaceX's. Musk's is moving forward and has a high target of sending space tourists in the near future which means huge profit for his company.

This will create competition and we might see a competitor soon.

What impacts do you predict this would have and should Bitcoin go to the moon, would you be boarding a rocket to space?
It's going to be an expensive trip so, I'll save myself for that and would be happy to see others getting there soon. Musk holds a small amount of bitcoin and who knows if a logo of bitcoin will be attached to one of his rockets.
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If it's about exploring and then gathering valuable metals, there are many unexplored places on earth. It will still be more feasible to dig here if you calculate the costs.

I'm not sure.

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the investment bank Goldman Sachs has reassured its clients about the financial benefits of investing in asteroid-mining companies. “The psychological barrier to mining asteroids is high, the actual financial and technological barriers are far lower,” it said in a report published last year. A Caltech study put the cost of an asteroid-mining mission at $2.6bn – perhaps not surprisingly the same estimated cost of NASA’s erstwhile ARM. It might sound a lot, but a rare-earth-metal mine has comparable set-up costs of up to $1bn and a football-field-sized asteroid could contain as much as $50bn of platinum
https://physicsworld.com/a/the-asteroid-trillionaires/

Asteroid mining could in theory be hugely lucrative. Of course another effect is if the supply of, say, that perennial safe-haven favourite gold increases dramatically, then that does make the fixed supply of bitcoin increasingly appealing from an investment perspective Smiley
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Wasn't suggesting it does. Just asking, if you're rich enough, would you go on a trip to space?

Haha, my bad.

Yeah, if in the next 20-40 years my Bitcoin holdings would make me a multi-millionaire, I'd likely buy a space trip, that sounds totally awesome. I just hope that the problem of space pollution will be solved before space tourism will become a thing, because if not, it would be quite wacky to contribute to this problem just for the sake of entertainment.

Maybe it depends on the people, there are people who are not entertained in seeing those celestial bodies. It is really a good experience to see the things in the space, but paying for a huge amount for that if you're a normal person isn't worth it.

Bitcoin can really give you reasonable amount of money, but it still depends on your manipulation if you're successful.

A space trip is satisfying and memorable but if you are not an astrophile person, you should spend your money to more valuable things that you really want to apex.

Sometimes, I really like travelling around the world and for me, I think it is much cheaper than going into space. But this space tour is really beneficial and it can contribute to the government's economy. It is somehow a good business, but for those only who can afford it.
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Wasn't suggesting it does. Just asking, if you're rich enough, would you go on a trip to space?

Haha, my bad.

Yeah, if in the next 20-40 years my Bitcoin holdings would make me a multi-millionaire, I'd likely buy a space trip, that sounds totally awesome. I just hope that the problem of space pollution will be solved before space tourism will become a thing, because if not, it would be quite wacky to contribute to this problem just for the sake of entertainment.
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