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legendary
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February 17, 2022, 09:32:42 PM
#28
We can imagine that after USDT and other stable coins, there goes the cbdc's that will also be helping bitcoin to push its price to the top.
And that's because there will be an added cap to the current cap that bitcoin has.
CBDCs will not help in any way to push Bitcoin price to the top, they are just the same as fiat and nothing more than fiat. The price of Bitcoin is used to compare the price of fiat, fiat do devalue, also demand of Bitcoin increasing is not because of CBDCs or Fiat or stable coin, it is because people see the value in Bitcoin and buy it.
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February 17, 2022, 06:21:50 AM
#27
Almost all countries that will have their own digital currency, I believe, will have some regulatory agency, such as banks and other financial organizations, that will operate as a task force to oversee digital currency transactions. However, Bitcoin transactions are decentralized; there is no third-party, no middleman, and no government or financial institution can regulate them.
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February 17, 2022, 03:47:18 AM
#26
Even if every country have their own digital currency it doesn't change anything and it can't be the same as bitcoin because bitcoin is fully decentralised and can't be manipulated by anyone.  If every country decide to have their digital currency am not sure if the currency will be volatile in nature. I have been following the nigeria government who launched a kind of digital currency call E-naira , since then this currency was launched I have not heard anything concerning it, even if one decides to get some E-naira I don't think if it will add any value by getting some profit. Governments that are trying to make a digital currency are doing it for selfish reasons.
legendary
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February 16, 2022, 06:54:06 PM
#25
A lot of countries are releasing/ contemplating to release their own digital currencies. EU is contemplating digital euro, Jamaica is thinking of digital Jamaican dollar.. India has already launched digital rupee..
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?


It all depends upon how much trust people retain in traditional financial institutions and how well central banks are able to incentivize the rapid development and adoption of their assets.

Initially, they could incentivize CBDCs offering excellent options and terms to the public. Then later those options could dry up, if they succeeded in achieving a monopoly. Which could in turn spawn more alternative assets and currencies in something resembling a financial arms race. That would appear to be the normalized trend we've witnessed throughout history.

Who do people believe in, and who do they trust? Both are great questions I would not mind knowing the answer to.

On one hand, I think public distrust of the state could be at an all time high due to corona lockdowns and general discontent. On the other hand people can certainly have short term memories at times. It is possible most have already forgotten events of the past 2 years? Its hard to say which direction the wind is blowing, many aren't being as vocal about their thoughts as they have in the past.

I get the impression many do not remember the 2008 financial crisis. Perhaps the COVID crisis will be the same? Or perhaps it will be different?
hero member
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February 16, 2022, 05:11:57 PM
#24
A lot of countries are releasing/ contemplating to release their own digital currencies. EU is contemplating digital euro, Jamaica is thinking of digital Jamaican dollar.. India has already launched digital rupee..
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?

There will be no impact on bitcoin, it will continue to serve the same purpose it has for the previous 60 years (decrease in purchasing power) with all the massive printing.
I was so determined to see how my country's digital currency (Enaira) would go when at the first launch, the download and ratings were low and was taken down but came back again and after some weeks, and today, it's one of the failed projects my country has launched last year. The low rating, review, and dissatisfaction were so much.
hero member
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February 16, 2022, 03:11:29 PM
#23
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?
We can rephrase the question to 'how will fiat affect bitcoin and crypto ecosystem'. All I know is that the reason government created nation's digital currencies has nothing to do with bitcoin and cryptocurrencies but they are means for us to spend locally. Only what I know that will be happening is that government will be controlling their fiat and digital currencies but decentralized currencies like bitcoin is the real asset someone should have. The connection bitcoin has with the government currencies is that bitcoin value is increasing when compared.
Yeah, someone already suggested this but I think the reason why he title it like that is because he is in the economics board and I think money is also related to economics?

And lastly to turn heads for the reader but moving on I think there is an effect if countries started to create their own version of digital currencies because it is more legal and they can market it easily and maybe they are also easier to use than a regular cryptocurrency but die hard crypto supporters are still there. They wont leave crypto just for this because in the end this digital currencies created by the governments are still under their control. Only the appearance have changed, nothing more.
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February 16, 2022, 05:17:45 AM
#22
A lot of countries are releasing/ contemplating to release their own digital currencies. EU is contemplating digital euro, Jamaica is thinking of digital Jamaican dollar.. India has already launched digital rupee..
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?

You forget about China as well and Russia who had their CBCD already.

It doesn't have any effect to the bitcoin/crypto market because obviously it is very different. These CBCD's are in the control of the government so it's fully centralised. These government are just taking advantage of the situation and uses the blockchain technology for their advantage. So this is like the local fiat, only this time it is in digital form. And you can't even trade it on exchanges so that's another main difference.
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February 16, 2022, 04:59:10 AM
#21
actually does not have much effect on the bitcoin ecosystem, because basically people's views about bitcoin have started to change from a means of payment to a store of value asset. but the impact of currency digitization is to create a better crypto ecosystem. this will trigger regulations that make crypto clearer and possibly fully legalized like in el salvador. so broadly speaking it will be good in the long run.
Well, there might not be that much effect but I think there will be another source that shall add to the market cap of bitcoin. We can imagine that after USDT and other stable coins, there goes the cbdc's that will also be helping bitcoin to push its price to the top.
And that's because there will be an added cap to the current cap that bitcoin has. Those cbdc's are already under the regulation but even if they'll be hard on it, they can't regulate bitocin.
legendary
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February 16, 2022, 04:24:17 AM
#20
Btc isn't  centralised so fiat is only taking care of the centralised system, the struggle is not for bitcoin as it already has a place that no country will put down.
That is true, Bitcoin is not centralized, but exchanges are now holding substantial amount of Bitcoin which is owned by their customers, there are also custodial wallets and some organizations that are providing custodial means Bitcoin can be held or used. What I am trying to imply is that Bitcoin is decentralized but some people are fooled and used it in a centralized way that they do not have full control over their own coins.

actually does not have much effect on the bitcoin ecosystem, because basically people's views about bitcoin have started to change from a means of payment to a store of value asset. but the impact of currency digitization is to create a better crypto ecosystem. this will trigger regulations that make crypto clearer and possibly fully legalized like in el salvador. so broadly speaking it will be good in the long run.
What I noticed is that most Bitcoin users are not using it for a means of exchange, means of exchanges is just an added advantage for them, they prefer to use Bitcoin for store of value, that is why many people are buying Bitcoin.
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February 15, 2022, 08:21:55 AM
#19
A lot of countries are releasing/ contemplating to release their own digital currencies. EU is contemplating digital euro, Jamaica is thinking of digital Jamaican dollar.. India has already launched digital rupee..
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?

actually does not have much effect on the bitcoin ecosystem, because basically people's views about bitcoin have started to change from a means of payment to a store of value asset. but the impact of currency digitization is to create a better crypto ecosystem. this will trigger regulations that make crypto clearer and possibly fully legalized like in el salvador. so broadly speaking it will be good in the long run.
sr. member
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February 15, 2022, 08:08:25 AM
#18
A lot of countries are releasing/ contemplating to release their own digital currencies. EU is contemplating digital euro, Jamaica is thinking of digital Jamaican dollar.. India has already launched digital rupee..
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?
All this digital currencies would just be the digital version of their fiat currencies exactly the same effect as compared to fiat just like every other CBDCs we already have in circulation. Bitcoin is a decentralized currency of it's own kind and has impact in its own uniqueness and it's effect is different from what CBDCs would offer
sr. member
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February 15, 2022, 08:01:01 AM
#17
Let's just have to wait and see what these people or investors would do when some countries introduces their own digital currency. I'm sure not all would choose the digital currency if they have had an experience of owning a Bitcoin but for some people who doesn't have enough knowledge about crypto currency might choose the digital version of fiat thus, making a digital currency is no different from printing more money. People should have to decide whether they like to be part of it but of course, if these certain countries would follow what China did to Bitcoin then there might be a problem with adoption on that country.
sr. member
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February 15, 2022, 07:01:51 AM
#16
When it comes to crypto currencies, most of us are interested in the independence and anonymity of cryptos. All that will be lost if we go for government controlled digital currencies. The government's are trying to become part of the crypto world, but investors will likely not buy into it.

The interest for cryptocurrency will still be retained despite maybe government introducing different digital currency. They are both different and the independence of crypto still have no comparing nature with fiat or digital currency and that won't affect each other. The Chinese have their yuan close to a year and India too has rupee but none is taking anything out from bitcoin. Bitcoin drop is not relating to digital currency.
legendary
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February 15, 2022, 06:03:50 AM
#15
A lot of countries are releasing/ contemplating to release their own digital currencies. EU is contemplating digital euro, Jamaica is thinking of digital Jamaican dollar.. India has already launched digital rupee..
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?

Imho the effect should not be much more different than printing more fiat, if any, since there CBDCs may not even be new money, may replace some of the fiat in circulation.
The effect on crypto should be minimal to 0 (or may even help a little).

You should, however, read the other discussions on similar topic, whether some are afraid whether Will central bank digital currency (CBDC) make bitcoin worthless? or they try to explain that CBDC will make Bitcoin MORE valuable. The existing discussions may give a wider image and some ideas...
hero member
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February 15, 2022, 05:49:53 AM
#14
A lot of countries are releasing/ contemplating to release their own digital currencies. EU is contemplating digital euro, Jamaica is thinking of digital Jamaican dollar.. India has already launched digital rupee..
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?

Not sure about the short term effects of all these digital currencies, but long term it should have no real impact on crypto currencies. Investors are going to realise that there is no real difference between fiat money and digital fiat money. In both cases a government or instituon backed by multiple countries sits behind them. When it comes to crypto currencies, most of us are interested in the independence and anonymity of cryptos. All that will be lost if we go for government controlled digital currencies. The government's are trying to become part of the crypto world, but investors will likely not buy into it.
legendary
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February 15, 2022, 03:42:26 AM
#13
If the governments "outlaw" all other Crypto currencies to force people to use their digital currency, then it will have a bad influence on the adoption of Bitcoin.
That is true but with all the nations that banned Bitcoin, Bitcoin adoption is still going on, few countries banned Bitcoin but some countries that banned Bitcoin are still having citizens that are using it for p2p transactions. It also depends on the type of ban.

If the governments define Bitcoin as a "Commodity" and not as legal tender, then obviously Bitcoin adoption as a payment system will suffer as a result. (This is how most governments are currently protecting the Fiat currencies)  Roll Eyes
What is most important is adoption, Bitcoin can serve a nation as commodity or a currency, both or one out of it will help in Bitcoin adoption. If Bitcoin is made a commodity, nothing is stopping people to send it to one another.
legendary
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February 15, 2022, 02:47:27 AM
#12
It all depends how they will be implementing these currencies.

If the governments "outlaw" all other Crypto currencies to force people to use their digital currency, then it will have a bad influence on the adoption of Bitcoin.

If the governments define Bitcoin as a "Commodity" and not as legal tender, then obviously Bitcoin adoption as a payment system will suffer as a result. (This is how most governments are currently protecting the Fiat currencies)  Roll Eyes

I want Bitcoin and these digital currencies to have a level playing field, to see which one will win in the end. (Centralized or Decentralized)  Wink
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February 15, 2022, 01:25:47 AM
#11
A lot of countries are releasing/ contemplating to release their own digital currencies. EU is contemplating digital euro, Jamaica is thinking of digital Jamaican dollar.. India has already launched digital rupee..
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?
It won't? It's kind of similar to a rebranding, but that's it, rebrand. Nothing of note actually changed at its core, it's still backed by a central organization, aka the government, and regulated. It's still fiat, regulated, controlled, and I highly doubt it being digitalized would actually change anything in the crypto ecosystem since well, it doesn't even influence or touch it. They also operate in different systems, crypto being in blockchain and fiat being on a government-controlled system.
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February 15, 2022, 12:53:13 AM
#10
A lot of countries are releasing/ contemplating to release their own digital currencies. EU is contemplating digital euro, Jamaica is thinking of digital Jamaican dollar..
The key word is "contemplating". Nothing has really happened yet and crypto users are in a panic state about this because of unknown outcomes.

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India has already launched digital rupee..
Please correct this. No such thing has been launched yet. It is also being "contemplated".

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How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?
They will not. The use of these currencies is a government affair. In order to sell/buy cryptocurrencies from local exchanges in your country you might need to get through them. Because of lack of information and the normal persecutory nature of human mind, people are over-thinking this and making up things that they dont understand. While things that happen are mostly for the better outlook, if people dont accept this mode, there will develop a counter-approach too. So I dont think there is anything to panic about but watch how governments make their move.
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February 14, 2022, 03:53:27 PM
#9
How these currencies will affect the bitcoin/crypto ecosystem?
I'm thinking of the positive that there will be another pair for bitcoin from these CBDCs once they release. All of them will eventually come and will buy bitcoin.
That's the only thing that I can think of if it's about the contribution of these CBDCs because honestly, there's really no effect at all to us if we'll try to find one.
What only matters with them are that they're government-backed.
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