I agree, this trust system is bogus.
So many power trippers and the trust system isnt even about trust anymore. People are handing out neg reps like candy without even looking into it or being affected by it.
Topic: EcuaMobi misusing his "TRUST" and bullying selective sellers - page 4. (Read 2919 times)
Hi
So I started a thread for selling Starbucks Gift Cards and got a "Money Laundering" negative feedback on my account on February 22, 2016 by EcuaMobi.
Some important facts about it:
1) I was given the negative trust the same day I opened my thread.
2) There were about 2-3 more Starbucks threads, open for months now and active that day but none of those sellers were given the feedback.
So I messaged EcuaMobi and explained him why he should take back the negative trust. A part of the message I sent him was this:
"1) I am reselling the gift cards so I am definitely NOT laundering money. Im just buying from somebody and selling it here. Is that not what all physical stores and everybody on earth does? Manufacturer > Wholesaler > Retailer! That's not money laundering.
2) I have never scammed anybody and I am willing to accept escrow for my transactions. That proves that I dont want to and cannot (if escrow is used) defraud anybody.
3) As far as the source of the gift cards is concerned, please think about this:
a) Newbies are selling these cards from similar sources.
b) Everybody here is buying anyways.
c) Newbies have a risk attached with them that they might, after a few good deals, run away with the money and make a new account.
d) If I sell the same cards, I eliminate that risk making the community safer in effect.
e) Its allowed by the forum rules.
So please think about it and kindly remove your negative feedback fro my trust. Waiting for your reply
"
I would like to ask other members (especially on DT), to think about the above statements and tell me if they are wrong!
Also, according to me the first 2 points prove that his allegations about money laundering and defrauding are completely wrong.
I also gave him 15 links including 13 members selling either gift cards, methods to scam companies and cracked accounts and asked him why he hasn't tagged them when those threads are running for months but mine was tagged on the first day! I would like to ask members here, can this just be a coincidence or he's actually misusing his DT status and protecting a selected few sellers? If its a coincidence its a BIG one!
He since has tagged about 3-4 members from those 13 members list I gave him. Not surprised to see that today the exact same members were tagged by the so called "HateLeague" and most of those members have positive trust ratings for each other! Another coincidence?
Now coming to my negative feedbacks, please consider these points:
1) I have already "haulted" my Starbucks sales and told this to EcuaMobi and agreed to lock the thread once he proves he's acting in a fair way and is not protecting some sellers.
2) So, I am indeed not selling anymore. So he finds another thread of mine where I am selling Groupon vouchers and gives me a neg trust for that. Keep in mind he didnt have any issues with that till I asked him to prove himself to be unbias. And if he didnt look at my post history before tagging me, he doesnt deserve to call himself an experienced member. According to me, that will be his escuse to this.
3) So he has the time to bully someone who has already haulted the sales, but cant find time to tag sellers actively selling? That seems more sketchy than the sellers' behavior
Now he has another point in his feedback saying "If you deal with this user you may be helping committing a crime. "
First of all, if you are unsure, please don't spoil somebody's rep. Get some solid proof (like you demand from sellers) and then give the negative feedback.
Secondly, the members buying (Many of them trusted and some even on DT) are also "helping committing a crime." according to EcuaMobi himself. So why no negative trust to the buyers? They are doing the same thing as the sellers, right? "helping committing a crime."
So to summarize it:
1) My account was tagged the same day when other sellers were allowed to continue selling for months.
2) I have proved (according to me), that his allegations of money laundering, defrauding and "may be" helping in a crime are all baseless and not true.
3) EcuaMobi has been selectively handing out the negative trusts, ignoring a few sellers with the intention of probably protecting them.
4) I already haulted my Starbucks sales, so he finds another lame reason to tag my account (which was not a problem just 2 days ago)
5) Can't understand the reason why he is not tagging buyers since in his own words they too are "helping committing a crime."
What I would like the community to do:
1) Remove EcuaMobi from DT since he is clearly misusing that power
OR
2) Ask him to take back all the baseless negative trusts he has given out
OR
3) Set a deadline for him to give out negative trusts to ALL SELLERS AND BUYERS not just a few.
So I started a thread for selling Starbucks Gift Cards and got a "Money Laundering" negative feedback on my account on February 22, 2016 by EcuaMobi.
Some important facts about it:
1) I was given the negative trust the same day I opened my thread.
2) There were about 2-3 more Starbucks threads, open for months now and active that day but none of those sellers were given the feedback.
So I messaged EcuaMobi and explained him why he should take back the negative trust. A part of the message I sent him was this:
"1) I am reselling the gift cards so I am definitely NOT laundering money. Im just buying from somebody and selling it here. Is that not what all physical stores and everybody on earth does? Manufacturer > Wholesaler > Retailer! That's not money laundering.
2) I have never scammed anybody and I am willing to accept escrow for my transactions. That proves that I dont want to and cannot (if escrow is used) defraud anybody.
3) As far as the source of the gift cards is concerned, please think about this:
a) Newbies are selling these cards from similar sources.
b) Everybody here is buying anyways.
c) Newbies have a risk attached with them that they might, after a few good deals, run away with the money and make a new account.
d) If I sell the same cards, I eliminate that risk making the community safer in effect.
e) Its allowed by the forum rules.
So please think about it and kindly remove your negative feedback fro my trust. Waiting for your reply
"I would like to ask other members (especially on DT), to think about the above statements and tell me if they are wrong!
Also, according to me the first 2 points prove that his allegations about money laundering and defrauding are completely wrong.
I also gave him 15 links including 13 members selling either gift cards, methods to scam companies and cracked accounts and asked him why he hasn't tagged them when those threads are running for months but mine was tagged on the first day! I would like to ask members here, can this just be a coincidence or he's actually misusing his DT status and protecting a selected few sellers? If its a coincidence its a BIG one!
He since has tagged about 3-4 members from those 13 members list I gave him. Not surprised to see that today the exact same members were tagged by the so called "HateLeague" and most of those members have positive trust ratings for each other! Another coincidence?
Now coming to my negative feedbacks, please consider these points:
1) I have already "haulted" my Starbucks sales and told this to EcuaMobi and agreed to lock the thread once he proves he's acting in a fair way and is not protecting some sellers.
2) So, I am indeed not selling anymore. So he finds another thread of mine where I am selling Groupon vouchers and gives me a neg trust for that. Keep in mind he didnt have any issues with that till I asked him to prove himself to be unbias. And if he didnt look at my post history before tagging me, he doesnt deserve to call himself an experienced member. According to me, that will be his escuse to this.
3) So he has the time to bully someone who has already haulted the sales, but cant find time to tag sellers actively selling? That seems more sketchy than the sellers' behavior
Now he has another point in his feedback saying "If you deal with this user you may be helping committing a crime. "
First of all, if you are unsure, please don't spoil somebody's rep. Get some solid proof (like you demand from sellers) and then give the negative feedback.
Secondly, the members buying (Many of them trusted and some even on DT) are also "helping committing a crime." according to EcuaMobi himself. So why no negative trust to the buyers? They are doing the same thing as the sellers, right? "helping committing a crime."
So to summarize it:
1) My account was tagged the same day when other sellers were allowed to continue selling for months.
2) I have proved (according to me), that his allegations of money laundering, defrauding and "may be" helping in a crime are all baseless and not true.
3) EcuaMobi has been selectively handing out the negative trusts, ignoring a few sellers with the intention of probably protecting them.
4) I already haulted my Starbucks sales, so he finds another lame reason to tag my account (which was not a problem just 2 days ago)
5) Can't understand the reason why he is not tagging buyers since in his own words they too are "helping committing a crime."
What I would like the community to do:
1) Remove EcuaMobi from DT since he is clearly misusing that power
OR
2) Ask him to take back all the baseless negative trusts he has given out
OR
3) Set a deadline for him to give out negative trusts to ALL SELLERS AND BUYERS not just a few.
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