[EDU] Bitcoin Beginners Guide - page 2.

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Quote from: ikydesu on September 16, 2015, 02:39:52 PM

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I just updated the topic with more informations and more things to do

I would also appreciate if someone could sumbit this topic on Reddit and some other social media website . Grin

This thread is useful not only for newbie, but for others too.
I will share it on my social media

sorry i can't use reddit.

Quote from: Blawpaw on September 16, 2015, 04:19:28 PM

Great guide! You sure did a good job with it!

A good contribution for newbies. But nothing like experience to learn.

thanks , both of you

Glad you guys find this helpful . giving it a bump .

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Great guide! You sure did a good job with it!

A good contribution for newbies. But nothing like experience to learn.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on September 16, 2015, 03:22:15 AM

I just updated the topic with more informations and more things to do

I would also appreciate if someone could sumbit this topic on Reddit and some other social media website . Grin

This thread is useful not only for newbie, but for others too.
I will share it on my social media

sorry i can't use reddit.

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I just updated the topic with more informations and more things to do

I would also appreciate if someone could sumbit this topic on Reddit and some other social media website . Grin

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Thank you for this thread, very useful

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Giving this thread a bump & also changed Title from [Edu] How to protect your wallet to [Edu] Bitcoin Beginners Guide since it will include more informations .
If you have any suggestions you want me to add let me know please , already working on few things that I should add later .

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Quote from: patmorin on September 04, 2015, 04:17:28 PM

Key scramblers isnt effective this is well documented and is a lie which people seem to just believe because they say so its also ad ware which installs itself in your appdata folder

Do you mind giving me the source of this (the adware part) ? I just went to the path of AppData and I only have a configuration file [ C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\QFX Software\KeyScrambler ] which dosen't contain anything important honestly (just the settings)

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Thank you for all the usefull information I found on this topic.

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Real good information for people who arent technical enough to create a paper wallet

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Key scramblers isnt effective this is well documented and is a lie which people seem to just believe because they say so its also ad ware which installs itself in your appdata folder

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Thanks for the guide however I dont see how ad block plus will help protect your wallet ad block plus doesnt stop any malicious content

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Giving this thread a bump so more people see it and use it .
I will be updating more often as soon as possible , sorry if I took time I was just busy . Peace !

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Quote from: ranochigo on August 21, 2015, 10:48:32 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 21, 2015, 09:43:52 AM

Yes omahapoker , they don't have protection against Hardware keyloggers but he said they are working on it for the moment .
also personally , I don't see how in the hell someone will simply plug something in your PC without you noticing to be honest , this could never happen to me and I sometimes thank god because Bitcoin isn't known here , that should decrease of me being a target even if I don't really have that much . Grin

Any proofs that he indeed said that? Hardware keyloggers are much harder to protect against due to the fact that the keystrokes are intercepted before entering the computer. Many computers have IO at the back and thats usually where most people plug their keyboard and mice into. Most people don't bother to look at the back of their computer before using it and most won't notice it.

I'am not sure why would I lie about it honestly Grin

but here you go the proof :

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 21, 2015, 09:43:52 AM

Yes omahapoker , they don't have protection against Hardware keyloggers but he said they are working on it for the moment .
also personally , I don't see how in the hell someone will simply plug something in your PC without you noticing to be honest , this could never happen to me and I sometimes thank god because Bitcoin isn't known here , that should decrease of me being a target even if I don't really have that much . Grin

Any proofs that he indeed said that? Hardware keyloggers are much harder to protect against due to the fact that the keystrokes are intercepted before entering the computer. Many computers have IO at the back and thats usually where most people plug their keyboard and mice into. Most people don't bother to look at the back of their computer before using it and most won't notice it.

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Yes omahapoker , they don't have protection against Hardware keyloggers but he said they are working on it for the moment .
also personally , I don't see how in the hell someone will simply plug something in your PC without you noticing to be honest , this could never happen to me and I sometimes thank god because Bitcoin isn't known here , that should decrease of me being a target even if I don't really have that much . Grin

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 15, 2015, 06:40:30 AM

Quote from: omahapoker on August 15, 2015, 06:11:10 AM

Quote from: ranochigo on August 14, 2015, 08:42:00 AM

Keyscramblers does not protect against keylogging hardware so its not an option if people have access to your computer. Majority of the virus does not get detected and most antivirus would be useless here. The best way is to not download any suspicious files or go to any suspicious website. A RAT can easily automatically send your money when you unlock your wallet. As most unconfirmed transactions are irreversible, it would be quite dangerous.

What do you mean with "Keyscramblers does not protect against keylogging hardware"? You mean keyscrambler is useless or that it can't help when someone is using a hardware keylogger?

Would keyscrambler at least be secure against software attacks?

By the way... entering passwords with something like that is one thing. But using keepass? I mean you oft enough would have to copy the password in your clipboard. Or when you want to type you would need to type the pass for keepass anyway, then show the pass.

I wonder if there can be done much anyway.

I just emailed their support team and I will post once I get a reply about those things . I read an interview between Qiran ( their CEO)and TechRepublic blog and on that time protection against Keylogging wasen't available so I'am not sure about now .

for what comes to KeePass , it's listed here : https://www.qfxsoftware.com/applications.htm so I assume it should be protected as should be

KeePass seems to be only protected in pro version. Though i wonder how they will protect it. I mean when it is used in the browser directly then it's a direct connection but what when you go through the clipboard?

And you meant they don't provide security against hardware keylogger, right? Because the purpose of that software should be to provide protection against software keyloggers.

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Quote from: ranochigo on August 15, 2015, 06:18:27 AM

Quote from: omahapoker on August 15, 2015, 06:11:10 AM

Quote from: ranochigo on August 14, 2015, 08:42:00 AM

Keyscramblers does not protect against keylogging hardware so its not an option if people have access to your computer. Majority of the virus does not get detected and most antivirus would be useless here. The best way is to not download any suspicious files or go to any suspicious website. A RAT can easily automatically send your money when you unlock your wallet. As most unconfirmed transactions are irreversible, it would be quite dangerous.

What do you mean with "Keyscramblers does not protect against keylogging hardware"? You mean keyscrambler is useless or that it can't help when someone is using a hardware keylogger?

Would keyscrambler at least be secure against software attacks?

By the way... entering passwords with something like that is one thing. But using keepass? I mean you oft enough would have to copy the password in your clipboard. Or when you want to type you would need to type the pass for keepass anyway, then show the pass.

I wonder if there can be done much anyway.

Yes. Keylogging hardware intercept the text before it goes into the system. Keyscramblers would not help at all.

Depending on the keyscrambler's features, it might not offer protection against clipboard logging. If you were to copy it to clipboard, the malware would be able to intercept it.

Thanks for the info. So it's unsafe when you let someone on you computer but at least it's somewhat safe when you not let someone on your computer.

At least it seems to provide a certain safety against attacks from the net. Unless you don't say something against i would want to take some time checking it out then.

By the way... Kaspersky has a software keyboard. How safe is this?

But when i think about it... my passwords are so long that i have to copy them from keepass. Guess i would need a safety patch for that. Or is it safe somehow?

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you should add methods for verifying the downloaded wallet file's signature to the part where you say "Do not download any wallets that they are not listed here Bitcoin.org - Choose your wallet"
this is important too, because you should always check to see if you downloaded the right file with their signature.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on August 16, 2015, 03:02:18 AM

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You are welcome , both of you .
Also I just Updated the topic with more informations and I hope you found them useful aswell , I hope members still give more suggestions about things to add and if there is anything wrong on what I said feel free to correct it .

Always make sure that your Anti-Virus/Malware is updated. is listed twice Wink

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Good piece of information. Thanks!

I didn't use some of them but now I think I need to try them out.

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