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Topic: [EDU] LIST OF ACTIVE LENDERS IN THE FORUM - page 3. (Read 5425 times)

legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1039
September 22, 2014, 05:33:31 PM
#27
Thanks for updating list with me.
I hope we will get more visible for users that way.

legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
September 22, 2014, 11:17:53 AM
#26
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
September 20, 2014, 12:50:55 PM
#25
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 509
September 18, 2014, 04:03:32 AM
#24
You're grossly misunderstanding what random is. Putting them down "in no particular order" based on whim isn't random (and if they are in no particular order, you should remove the numbers, as numbers mean that they are in order). You likely put yourself 4th because you wanted to put yourself as high as possible (as a result of both voluntary and involuntary personal biases) without it being overly obvious that you were putting yourself higher than you should be (it's pretty obvious to me, though). Even if you didn't think this, you did so without realizing it.

TomatoCage likely wouldn't be first if it was random - he's known as the most trustworthy. haploid23 likely wouldn't be second if it was random - he's proven to be a trustworthy lender and has been a good member for awhile. You go down the list and most of it makes sense based on the reputation each member has here (I can't comment about my own ranking, as while I know exactly my level of trustworthiness, it's impossible for other people to). The one guy sticking out is you - a relatively new member and lender, conveniently placed in front of a handful of more experienced and trustworthy members.

This is an entirely different topic, but true randomness does not just mean something is unsystematic and indiscriminate. Humans are incapable of true randomness. Most cryptography might even seem random, and for all practical purposes can be considered random, but it truly isn't. Randomness is very hard to achieve.

If you want this to be an unbiased list, you're going to have to change things. There's nothing inherently bad about something being biased, but that's what this list is. Considering you say that this list is unbiased and we can be sure it isn't, the only thing you've achieved is a loss of trust.

So, what actually you want ?? Your name on the top of the list ?? Or anything else. Okay, then tell me at what number your name should be at ??
I wasn't going to respond because I didn't want to bump this thread, but no, as I said, I do not care where I am listed. I care where you're listed, which is way higher than what would be considered fair.

i am not there too..

Don't worry about it. This is not an an official list and is really just an advertisement for the OP. This hadn't even been replied to for 10 days before a post count spammer responded and bumped it back to the first page.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
September 18, 2014, 02:44:11 AM
#23
i am not there too..
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
September 17, 2014, 10:40:03 AM
#22
Good list and great initiative. Just keep it updated man. Many new lenders around and many of them arent listed here. Please see to it.  Smiley Smiley Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1006
Black Panther
September 07, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
#21
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
September 06, 2014, 06:45:20 AM
#20
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
September 06, 2014, 03:50:54 AM
#19
You're grossly misunderstanding what random is. Putting them down "in no particular order" based on whim isn't random (and if they are in no particular order, you should remove the numbers, as numbers mean that they are in order). You likely put yourself 4th because you wanted to put yourself as high as possible (as a result of both voluntary and involuntary personal biases) without it being overly obvious that you were putting yourself higher than you should be (it's pretty obvious to me, though). Even if you didn't think this, you did so without realizing it.

TomatoCage likely wouldn't be first if it was random - he's known as the most trustworthy. haploid23 likely wouldn't be second if it was random - he's proven to be a trustworthy lender and has been a good member for awhile. You go down the list and most of it makes sense based on the reputation each member has here (I can't comment about my own ranking, as while I know exactly my level of trustworthiness, it's impossible for other people to). The one guy sticking out is you - a relatively new member and lender, conveniently placed in front of a handful of more experienced and trustworthy members.

This is an entirely different topic, but true randomness does not just mean something is unsystematic and indiscriminate. Humans are incapable of true randomness. Most cryptography might even seem random, and for all practical purposes can be considered random, but it truly isn't. Randomness is very hard to achieve.

If you want this to be an unbiased list, you're going to have to change things. There's nothing inherently bad about something being biased, but that's what this list is. Considering you say that this list is unbiased and we can be sure it isn't, the only thing you've achieved is a loss of trust.

So, what actually you want ?? Your name on the top of the list ?? Or anything else. Okay, then tell me at what number your name should be at ??
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 509
September 05, 2014, 08:24:04 PM
#18

Thanks for the suggestion. I will add him to the list soon.

Thanks for the add grtthegreat, I don't mind being at the bottom  Cheesy
I don't care how he orders the list (or where I am on the list), as long as it doesn't favor himself. Why are you in front of people who have been lending for longer and have higher trust ratings?

The way it currently is is very biased and I do not support it. Order it by thread start date, trust rating, or something else which is less biased.

Regardless of the order, get rid of the numbers. Numbers say that this is your personal opinion of lenders, which I guess it is.

Sorry but you misunderstood it. Its not based on anything, its just random. Its not my personal opinion. Please try to understand.
You're grossly misunderstanding what random is. Putting them down "in no particular order" based on whim isn't random (and if they are in no particular order, you should remove the numbers, as numbers mean that they are in order). You likely put yourself 4th because you wanted to put yourself as high as possible (as a result of both voluntary and involuntary personal biases) without it being overly obvious that you were putting yourself higher than you should be (it's pretty obvious to me, though). Even if you didn't think this, you did so without realizing it.

TomatoCage likely wouldn't be first if it was random - he's known as the most trustworthy. haploid23 likely wouldn't be second if it was random - he's proven to be a trustworthy lender and has been a good member for awhile. You go down the list and most of it makes sense based on the reputation each member has here (I can't comment about my own ranking, as while I know exactly my level of trustworthiness, it's impossible for other people to). The one guy sticking out is you - a relatively new member and lender, conveniently placed in front of a handful of more experienced and trustworthy members.

This is an entirely different topic, but true randomness does not just mean something is unsystematic and indiscriminate. Humans are incapable of true randomness. Most cryptography might even seem random, and for all practical purposes can be considered random, but it truly isn't. Randomness is very hard to achieve.

If you want this to be an unbiased list, you're going to have to change things. There's nothing inherently bad about something being biased, but that's what this list is. Considering you say that this list is unbiased and we can be sure it isn't, the only thing you've achieved is a loss of trust.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
September 05, 2014, 07:52:51 PM
#17

Thanks for the suggestion. I will add him to the list soon.

Thanks for the add grtthegreat, I don't mind being at the bottom  Cheesy
I don't care how he orders the list (or where I am on the list), as long as it doesn't favor himself. Why are you in front of people who have been lending for longer and have higher trust ratings?

The way it currently is is very biased and I do not support it. Order it by thread start date, trust rating, or something else which is less biased.

Regardless of the order, get rid of the numbers. Numbers say that this is your personal opinion of lenders, which I guess it is.

Sorry but you misunderstood it. Its not based on anything, its just random. Its not my personal opinion. Please try to understand.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 509
September 05, 2014, 04:54:54 PM
#16
Thanks for the add grtthegreat, I don't mind being at the bottom  Cheesy
I don't care how he orders the list (or where I am on the list), as long as it doesn't favor himself. Why are you in front of people who have been lending for longer and have higher trust ratings?

The way it currently is is very biased and I do not support it. Order it by thread start date, trust rating, or something else which is less biased.

Regardless of the order, get rid of the numbers. Numbers say that this is your personal opinion of lenders, which I guess it is.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
September 05, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
#15
Thanks for the add grtthegreat, I don't mind being at the bottom  Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
September 05, 2014, 03:07:07 PM
#14
You are missing this guy he is also offering loans here on this forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/offering-fair-quick-low-interest-loans-up-to-1-btc-no-collateral-665876
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 509
September 05, 2014, 02:31:52 PM
#13
I'm a Sr. Member....

Also, why are you ordering them by numbers and why is the order the way it is? Why are you so high on the list?
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
September 05, 2014, 01:02:13 PM
#12
I have organised a thread for that. Great job with the thread grtthegreat i have linked it in my post.

Oh.. Thanks for including me in your thread. I liked the caption you wrote there: "A good thread in relation to people who provide loans can be found here."  Thanks again sir.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1029
September 05, 2014, 12:52:40 PM
#11
I have organised a thread for that. Great job with the thread grtthegreat i have linked it in my post.

Maybe just create another column like you have for Memberstatus & Collateral. You could always just ask bitcoininformation if you can copy and tweak his design, but I'd just edit this one as it's fine apart from that small detail.

I tried to do it with tables and columns but ended up with failure. Please help me out if you guys can manage to get time to do it. Else, I would continue with the old table I made above.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
September 05, 2014, 12:15:56 PM
#10
Thanks for including me in the list , for me the collateral is obbligatory! so can you add the letter "Y" ?

Thanks again for your work.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 501
Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
September 05, 2014, 12:14:54 PM
#9
Thanks for including me in the list, seems to be a good start, maybe you should also link to the open loans thread? Keep it up Smiley

Open loans thread?? I don't think that will be required for people needing BTC.

Not for them but also for everyone else. Im referring to QuarntinedMoon's thread.

I have organised a thread for that. Great job with the thread grtthegreat i have linked it in my post.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1049
┴puoʎǝq ʞool┴
September 05, 2014, 12:03:44 PM
#8
Thanks for including me in the list, seems to be a good start, maybe you should also link to the open loans thread? Keep it up Smiley

Open loans thread?? I don't think that will be required for people needing BTC.

Not for them but also for everyone else. Im referring to QuarntinedMoon's thread.
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