Topic: Eight Years Ago: US-NATO Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine (Read 411 times)

Quote from: yazher on May 30, 2022, 08:46:11 AM

All right! Admit it. You don't love your country, and you hate it when other people love theirs.

Btw, all the Z's mean is that they have been napping until now.

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Did someone tell you that you are funny? They were not your friends.

Who were not my friends? What are you blabbing about? All people in the world have been made friends of God through the sacrifice Jesus, God's Son, did on the cross. The only problem is that many are not maintaining their friendship with God, and will have to be destroyed if they reject their final chance... faith in Jesus-salvation.

So, now that you understand this, look at those people through the eyes of friendship, even if you have to destroy some of them to protect other friends of yours. If you don't, you, too, will be rejected by God.

This life is only for a hundred years, if that. Heaven and Hell are forever, for eternity.

Btw, I'm telling you this because I am your friend.

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Your God sounds like a mafia boss.

BTW, where do you think are heaven and hell? Just curious.

I think for most Ukrainians hell will end when the last Russian soldier is killed or leaves their territory.

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Seems that Russia has turned into the good guys, and the Allies and Allied Command have turned bad.

There is a very simple and reliable ethical test to determine who is on the light side of the force in this story, and who is on the dark side - the attitude towards captives.

Yeah! that's one thing to be sure about and the way they handle the civilians that are not really hostile towards them. I believe if they only want to take over Ukraine from Zelensky they won't hurt the civilians and to be fair I don't want to believe what the mainstream media says about them because they might only report biased news but we need to get some stories from the civilians themselves if what kind of treatment they get when they are caught by the Russian soldiers. On the other hand, it seems like this war will not end soon so it's better for them to conclude it in peaceful talks rather than sacrificing their poor soldiers on both sides.

Are you trying to say that Ukrainian citizens are not supporting their government? Don't you realize that their support of their Ukrainian government is the thing that lines them up as the enemy?... at least in Putin's eyes?

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Seems that Russia has turned into the good guys, and the Allies and Allied Command have turned bad.

There is a very simple and reliable ethical test to determine who is on the light side of the force in this story, and who is on the dark side - the attitude towards captives.

Yeah! that's one thing to be sure about and the way they handle the civilians that are not really hostile towards them. I believe if they only want to take over Ukraine from Zelensky they won't hurt the civilians and to be fair I don't want to believe what the mainstream media says about them because they might only report biased news but we need to get some stories from the civilians themselves if what kind of treatment they get when they are caught by the Russian soldiers. On the other hand, it seems like this war will not end soon so it's better for them to conclude it in peaceful talks rather than sacrificing their poor soldiers on both sides.

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Quote from: af_newbie on May 28, 2022, 12:22:06 PM

Current Ukraine was a result of a complex geopolitical, military, ideological and legacy war, which has different players, with different objectives. Russia wants to ensure that NATO doesn't bother it in future. Ukraine wanted to westernize, US wanted to patronize Ukraine and humiliate Russia. West want Russian Gas but not a strong Russia. Democrats want to break the bastion of communism. Common Russians want to stay economically strong. Common Ukrainians want to just stay safe and alive. Putin want power, zelensky want to be remembered as more than a comedian...

The result is war..

You have nicely summarized the background of Ukraine war. I think hawkish approach of Joe Biden administration is the major reason of Ukraine war, first they failed to address Russian security concern through negotiation and later they are consistently failing to stop this war by using strong tools of sanctions which failed to produce any tangible results. US establishment need to understand that they can not unilaterally control the world, new power centers have emerged now. Ukraine war can only stop if Joe Biden and Putin sit together and resolve Ukraine issue through meaningful negotiations.

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Quote from: BADecker on May 28, 2022, 10:47:36 AM

Quote from: paxmao on May 28, 2022, 08:35:30 AM

Quote from: paxmao on May 28, 2022, 08:35:30 AM

All right! Admit it. You don't love your country, and you hate it when other people love theirs.

Btw, all the Z's mean is that they have been napping until now.

Cool

Did someone tell you that you are funny? They were not your friends.

Who were not my friends? What are you blabbing about? All people in the world have been made friends of God through the sacrifice Jesus, God's Son, did on the cross. The only problem is that many are not maintaining their friendship with God, and will have to be destroyed if they reject their final chance... faith in Jesus-salvation.

So, now that you understand this, look at those people through the eyes of friendship, even if you have to destroy some of them to protect other friends of yours. If you don't, you, too, will be rejected by God.

This life is only for a hundred years, if that. Heaven and Hell are forever, for eternity.

Btw, I'm telling you this because I am your friend.

Cool

Your God sounds like a mafia boss.

BTW, where do you think are heaven and hell? Just curious.

I think for most Ukrainians hell will end when the last Russian soldier is killed or leaves their territory.

God is the owner of everything. If He wanted to be a Mafia boss, He'd have the right, and your feet would be in cement at the bottom of some river.

True Hell doesn't exist yet. It will exist as the Lake of Fire spoken about in the Revelation.

The location of Heaven is beyond our scientists to determine... mostly because they would have to believe in God and Creation rather than some stupid Big Bang.

Many Ukrainians are Christian. For them Heaven will begin when the lose their lives in the hell you are talking about.

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All right! Admit it. You don't love your country, and you hate it when other people love theirs.

Btw, all the Z's mean is that they have been napping until now.

Cool

Did someone tell you that you are funny? They were not your friends.

Who were not my friends? What are you blabbing about? All people in the world have been made friends of God through the sacrifice Jesus, God's Son, did on the cross. The only problem is that many are not maintaining their friendship with God, and will have to be destroyed if they reject their final chance... faith in Jesus-salvation.

So, now that you understand this, look at those people through the eyes of friendship, even if you have to destroy some of them to protect other friends of yours. If you don't, you, too, will be rejected by God.

This life is only for a hundred years, if that. Heaven and Hell are forever, for eternity.

Btw, I'm telling you this because I am your friend.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 27, 2022, 11:22:12 AM

Quote from: BADecker on May 27, 2022, 09:35:11 AM

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Why do you think those Nazi's are protesting? Putin DID clean his house. That's why they are out in the streets. He kicked them out. Then they went over to the Ukraine side, and are plotting vengeance with the Ukrainian Nazi's.
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Including the ones with the Z's? Or is THAT type of Nazi allowed by Adolf Putin, the Russian supremacist. His "arians" are the Russ, other than that is Hitler with the crown of a Tzar.

All right! Admit it. You don't love your country, and you hate it when other people love theirs.

Btw, all the Z's mean is that they have been napping until now.

Cool

Did someone tell you that you are funny? They were not your friends.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 27, 2022, 11:22:12 AM

Quote from: BADecker on May 27, 2022, 09:35:11 AM

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Why do you think those Nazi's are protesting? Putin DID clean his house. That's why they are out in the streets. He kicked them out. Then they went over to the Ukraine side, and are plotting vengeance with the Ukrainian Nazi's.
...

Including the ones with the Z's? Or is THAT type of Nazi allowed by Adolf Putin, the Russian supremacist. His "arians" are the Russ, other than that is Hitler with the crown of a Tzar.

All right! Admit it. You don't love your country, and you hate it when other people love theirs.

Btw, all the Z's mean is that they have been napping until now.

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on May 27, 2022, 09:35:11 AM

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Why do you think those Nazi's are protesting? Putin DID clean his house. That's why they are out in the streets. He kicked them out. Then they went over to the Ukraine side, and are plotting vengeance with the Ukrainian Nazi's.
...

Including the ones with the Z's? Or is THAT type of Nazi allowed by Adolf Putin, the Russian supremacist. His "arians" are the Russ, other than that is Hitler with the crown of a Tzar.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 26, 2022, 05:16:34 PM

The Nazi argument is irrelevant to this war. Adolf Putin is just looking for as short of ideological cover up. He is a Russian supremacist, despises minorities in his own country and could not care less about the Russian speaking population that is killing at leisure. He has systematically invaded its neighbours without provocation and setups puppet governments at will.

Why don't he cleans his own house first?

Why do you think those Nazi's are protesting? Putin DID clean his house. That's why they are out in the streets. He kicked them out. Then they went over to the Ukraine side, and are plotting vengeance with the Ukrainian Nazi's.

Besides, in the top picture, the gal in the right-middle is simply waving to her friend in the apartments that are out of our line of sight to her right. And the guy in the bottom-right who looks like Lenin, is simply showing his looks off for the cameras. And the guy to the right of the Lenin-guy is imitating Dr. Zelenko, and is trying to stop people from getting the vaxx. And the guy in the red and white mask at the far left, is simply trying to put his umbrella down because it stopped raining. And the guy in the far right with what looks like his fist in the air, simply caught the horsefly that was irritating him. And the couple way in back to the left are laughing about how well this staged theatrics are going.

As far as the two bottom pictures go, don't you think they have any better cameras in Russia? They are both homemade pictures, to be used for who know what? But they have been adopted and adapted for you to use in your propaganda.

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 26, 2022, 03:01:38 PM

Quote from: Cnut237 on May 26, 2022, 02:21:32 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on May 26, 2022, 10:12:14 AM

tattoos

I hate this right-wing cancel culture that's so ubiquitous these days. Just because you're scared of tattoos, it doesn't mean that everyone else needs to have them removed. Their body their choice, right?

I am in favor of Nazis and their supporters marking themselves with swastika tattoos since it makes it more efficient for me to figure out who to avoid. Please do move forward on 'standing with Ukraine' project, and if you really want to impress your friends, show some balls and put that swastika right on your face. Right between the eyes is the best place for inveterate mask-tards like yourself.

The Nazi argument is irrelevant to this war. Adolf Putin is just looking for as short of ideological cover up. He is a Russian supremacist, despises minorities in his own country and could not care less about the Russian speaking population that is killing at leisure. He has systematically invaded its neighbours without provocation and setups puppet governments at will.

Why don't he cleans his own house first?

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 26, 2022, 03:37:58 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on May 26, 2022, 03:01:38 PM

I am in favor of Nazis and their supporters marking themselves with swastika tattoos since it makes it more efficient for me to figure out who to avoid. Please do move forward on 'standing with Ukraine' project, and if you really want to impress your friends, show some balls and put that swastika right on your face. Right between the eyes is the best place for inveterate mask-tards like yourself.

Now that sounds like something a true Nazi would say.

But from what I remember, in most posts you make you manage to add your anti-semite messaging.

I didn't even bother to mention the Star-of-Remphan tattoos that some of these 'defenders of Ukraine' people seem to be sporting (unless it is a hoax.) But yeah, Zionism and Nazism do seem to be the flip side of the same coin in a lot of cases. Literally sometimes:

Tell us more about how you would love to kill people you do not like.

I guess you started in on the scooby-snacks early today, eh?

What if I get a tattoo of Putin in Nazi uniform fucking a goat on a flag of the Soviet Union, all while holding the "Star of David" and being fucked in the ass by a strong Black man?

Would I become a Nazi, anti-Semite, Jew, gay or communist?

What about if I get a Seal Trident tattoo? Would I be a US Navy SEAL?

For you even to talk like that suggests that you have been going that direction for a long time now. How do you look when you stare at yourself in the mirror?

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 26, 2022, 03:01:38 PM

I am in favor of Nazis and their supporters marking themselves with swastika tattoos since it makes it more efficient for me to figure out who to avoid. Please do move forward on 'standing with Ukraine' project, and if you really want to impress your friends, show some balls and put that swastika right on your face. Right between the eyes is the best place for inveterate mask-tards like yourself.

Now that sounds like something a true Nazi would say.

But from what I remember, in most posts you make you manage to add your anti-semite messaging.

I didn't even bother to mention the Star-of-Remphan tattoos that some of these 'defenders of Ukraine' people seem to be sporting (unless it is a hoax.) But yeah, Zionism and Nazism do seem to be the flip side of the same coin in a lot of cases. Literally sometimes:

Quote from: Cnut237 on May 26, 2022, 02:21:32 PM

Tell us more about how you would love to kill people you do not like.

I guess you started in on the scooby-snacks early today, eh?

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 26, 2022, 10:12:14 AM

tattoos

I hate this right-wing cancel culture that's so ubiquitous these days. Just because you're scared of tattoos, it doesn't mean that everyone else needs to have them removed. Their body their choice, right?

I am in favor of Nazis and their supporters marking themselves with swastika tattoos since it makes it more efficient for me to figure out who to avoid. Please do move forward on 'standing with Ukraine' project, and if you really want to impress your friends, show some balls and put that swastika right on your face. Right between the eyes is the best place for inveterate mask-tards like yourself.

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 26, 2022, 10:12:14 AM

tattoos

I hate this right-wing cancel culture that's so ubiquitous these days. Just because you're scared of tattoos, it doesn't mean that everyone else needs to have them removed. Their body their choice, right?

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Quote from: Cnut237 on May 26, 2022, 07:59:10 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on May 26, 2022, 12:04:39 AM

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Here's a more simple-minded, and far more ambiguous and less reliable test:

- Who has the swastika tattoos?
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Did you get your Hitler, Bandera, and swastika tattoos to show to your woke friends that you stand with Ukraine yet? You know, 'show solidarity'. Or maybe the baphomet ones are more to your liking? The heroic defenders of Ukraine who surrendered at Avoztal seemed to have them all.

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 26, 2022, 12:04:39 AM

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Here's a more simple-minded, and far more ambiguous and less reliable test:

- Who has the swastika tattoos?

If 'Putin' doesn't have one, it won't stop him behaving like a modern-day Hitler. And it's irrelevant whether or not a few random people in Ukraine have them.

Absurd and irrelevant seems to constitute 100% proof of something you want to believe.

Tell us how it feels to wake up and find out that you're posting nonsense, when you just wanted to come up with any argument at all to signal that you stand in opposition to those you call "the 'woke' crowd". Your humiliation shows. Here's a little tip: When you find yourself in a hole, best to quit digging and look for a different method of getting out of it.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 25, 2022, 06:23:44 PM

Seems that Russia has turned into the good guys, and the Allies and Allied Command have turned bad.

There is a very simple and reliable ethical test to determine who is on the light side of the force in this story, and who is on the dark side - the attitude towards captives.

There is a very simple test on who is the nazi here:

- Who invaded?
- Who is a Russian supremacist that is sending the non ethnic Russians to die by the thousands.
- Who has declared illegal to say anything that is not the "official truth"
- Who has invaded several other neighbourghs.
- Who has destroyed any sign of democracy from inside the system.
- Who has encouraged hate and genocide?

Yup... that is Putin.

Here's an even simpler, and far less ambiguous and more reliable test:

- Who has the swastika tattoos?

If 'Putin' has one I'd be somewhat surprised. They are known to be quite common in Ukraine though. I suppose it's possible that them evil Russians sneaked into Azovstal and did some tattoo artistry on the Azov guys while they were sleeping then let surrender later and took pics. I mean, anything is possible...and 'possible' seems to constitute 100% proof of something you want to believe.

Tell us how it feels to wake up and find out that you've become a nazi supporter when you just wanted to virtue signal a bit in order fit in with the 'woke' crowd. Your humiliation shows. Here's a little tip: When you find yourself in a hole, best to quit digging and look for a different method of getting out of it.

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