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Topic: El Salvador's success? - page 2. (Read 287 times)

legendary
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February 16, 2024, 01:33:37 AM
#8
US is really a land of opportunity

one persons opportunity is another persons expectation not yet filled
the pursuit of happiness is different to achieving happiness
the land of dreams is different to reality
liberty vs border policy
job opportunities = positions not filled

same things mean different thoughts about said things depend on who says it and how its said
legendary
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February 16, 2024, 01:16:48 AM
#7

When a government doesn't do their job of keeping the streets crime free, you call them failed government. But when they actually do what they are supposed to do, you are calling them dictator!
LMAO except US, US has a privilege, even though there are a lot homicide and they learn LGBTQ+ since kindergarten, a lot people are saying US is the best country. Cheesy

I don't consider US as the best country. Every country has their fair share of issues and US is not an exception. US is really a land of opportunity with a high per capita income. That's why immigrants try to move in there and make money so that they can live a comfortable life back home. But the subject matter here is El-Salvador.

This is a country where the crime rate has dropped down to an optimum low level after the current president started cleaning up the mess. That's commendable and this effort should be applauded! 

Nayib Bukele is giving another opportunity to his people towards a better life. Not sure why the Human rights organizations are crying foul around it! Not to mention that most of these Human Rights organizations are funded by the Western people. 
legendary
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February 16, 2024, 12:47:24 AM
#6
one countries dictator is another countries executive leader.. both the same legally. but different synonyms to change the mood/mindset of media story readers
hero member
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February 16, 2024, 12:45:24 AM
#5
El Salvador is success, there's a high chance they catch a wrong person because they arrested a lot suspected gang members, but at least this will make El Salvadorian feel safe and they won't try to doing a bad thing due to punishment.

I didn't hear if someone talks bad or not voted Nayib Bukele, he will going to jail, so he's not yet a dictator which like in North Korea.

When a government doesn't do their job of keeping the streets crime free, you call them failed government. But when they actually do what they are supposed to do, you are calling them dictator!
LMAO except US, US has a privilege, even though there are a lot homicide and they learn LGBTQ+ since kindergarten, a lot people are saying US is the best country. Cheesy
copper member
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February 16, 2024, 12:23:50 AM
#4
I have read information about this and watched a short video on how they managed to turn around that country. There would always be people who would criticize the government's actions like calling them a dictator but maybe that's the only way and it has become effective. But the people who have a say on this are the people of El Salvador.

We have an outsider's perspective but we can see results and I think it's a success if the goal is to lessen the crimes and it did. The other issues are a different discussion. It all boils down to the goal you are about.
legendary
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February 16, 2024, 12:10:34 AM
#3
a dictator, much like dictation is someone that writes.. in political terms its the top guy that has powers to write executive orders
which is different than committees, parliaments, senates and congressing where laws only come into effect by mass agreement of the assembly

when a dictator abuses the power they become tyrannical dictators

if a country fairly voted him in without mass corruption, and he uses the power to make the country better its not tyrany

..
ever since the roman times governments have had policies that in times of emergency the leaders can dictate law fast and swiftly in response to emerging problems that need fast results to overt damage, harm, distress of a nation.

in times of war or civil unrest you usually see these cases of where the Chief executive of the federal government. Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces use the emergency powers to dictate, but in some countries they call these dictations by other names like "executive orders"

el salvador also does have a legislative assembly of 84 members..

so just like in america.. both have presidents. who have executive power.. and then a legislative level of elected people that set policy, laws, regulations and such aswell

but it is funny to see how western media like to tweak the buzzwords
legendary
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February 15, 2024, 11:38:55 PM
#2
When a government doesn't do their job of keeping the streets crime free, you call them failed government. But when they actually do what they are supposed to do, you are calling them dictator!

The people of El-Salvador knows it better and that's why they have re-elected Nayib Bukele for another term with over 85% of votes. let's respect their choice of life. El-Salvador is a democracy and not anywhere similar to North Korea where there's no opposition party. I have got the news of this re-election just a week back, and it seems, everyone is praising Nayib Bukele for his strong stance against the criminals in the country.

I would definitely not call him a dictator, rather I will call him a leader of the people. I sometimes don't understand the role of these human rights organizations. Where were they when peoples' live were lost due to gang wars? Now someone is cleaning the mess and these organizations are coming around crying for human lives! What an irony!
hero member
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February 15, 2024, 03:42:52 PM
#1
Nope, this won't be one more thread about El Salvador's Bitcoin adoption. With that being said, let's dive into the subject of this topic.

El Salvador is a small country in Central America that has become extremely popular in the forum in the last few years due to it recognizing Bitcoin as legal tender and attempting to adopt it in its economy on a daily basis. Whether or not this adoption was successful remains unknown. From what I've read, a large number of citizens claimed the early bonuses and never bothered again, so it's hard to say that Bitcoin adoption has been a success, although it's best not to jump to conclusions again.

Now let's jump into the actual subject of this topic. Recently, it has come to the attention of the media that El Salvador, a country that was considered one of the most dangerous in the world, has turned upside down and is ranking as one of the safest countries and the safest in Latin America, lowering the homicide rates by 70%. 154 homicides were recorded in 2023, the lowest in decades.

El Salvador has been struggling with notorious gangs for years, while according to government data, over 120.000 civilian lives have been lost due to gang rivalries, while it was claimed that over 80% of the country's territory was controlled by gangs. The country was declared in a state of emergency in early 2022, which allowed the police to arrest and jail suspected gang members while at the same time suspending their right to an attorney and court approval of preliminary detention. Although this crackdown has severely decreased crime rates in the country, human rights organizations are claiming that the crackdown included abuses, torture, and even deaths in custody. The police have arrested over 75.000 suspected gang members and released 7.000, while human rights groups have reported 190 deaths and over 5.000 cases of abuse.

Although President Nayib Bukele was recently re-elected with over 85% of the votes cast, human rights organizations are calling him a dictator; however, the citizens have ruled that they prefer safer streets rather than supporting human rights.

What's your opinion? Do you support the way president Bukele tackled corruption and crime, or is he rightfully being called a dictator?

Sources:
1. https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20240205-el-salvador-s-president-bukele-claims-record-reelection-victory
2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/25/el-salvador-crime-human-rights-prisons/
3. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/el-salvador-says-murders-fell-70-2023-it-cracked-down-gangs-2024-01-03/
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