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Quote from: ranochigo on January 20, 2018, 09:49:46 AM

Quote from: chris190 on January 20, 2018, 08:09:50 AM

I also tried to confirm the second transaction due to low fees, but that's not what I wanted! I think I did a useless double transaction! The transaction has been confirmed, but the other transaction remains, it has not disappeared! Tongue

however it does the same, there is no problem. it was only to understand the reason for that transaction still there! Wink

None of your transactions that were confirmed spends any loutputs from the transaction (37c4286c9772a9519a7). It will remain there until the inputs of that transactions is used and confirmed in another transaction or if the network drops it. The inputs of that transaction is still not confirmed so it probably won't happen for a long time.

thanks for the explanation!

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Quote from: chris190 on January 20, 2018, 08:09:50 AM

I also tried to confirm the second transaction due to low fees, but that's not what I wanted! I think I did a useless double transaction! The transaction has been confirmed, but the other transaction remains, it has not disappeared! Tongue

however it does the same, there is no problem. it was only to understand the reason for that transaction still there! Wink

None of your transactions that were confirmed spends any loutputs from the transaction (37c4286c9772a9519a7). It will remain there until the inputs of that transactions is used and confirmed in another transaction or if the network drops it. The inputs of that transaction is still not confirmed so it probably won't happen for a long time.

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I also tried to confirm the second transaction due to low fees, but that's not what I wanted! I think I did a useless double transaction! The transaction has been confirmed, but the other transaction remains, it has not disappeared! Tongue

https://blockchain.info/it/address/1JAzCquFwPQG7Ko7Bjz8HpJGQb6kkVnRyT

Input RFB
https://blockchain.info/it/tx/80a7db4f3d955e279b2836d984864cd44d233a3ab0ac2e33d0c1a685e54dc325

old transaction not confirmed
https://blockchain.info/it/tx/37c4286c9772a9519a741fbe8a3e84c685249d1846466732bf8fd278c67fb20a

however it does the same, there is no problem. it was only to understand the reason for that transaction still there! Wink

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Quote from: Thirdspace on January 14, 2018, 08:18:09 AM

Quote from: chris190 on January 14, 2018, 06:31:50 AM

wow, it works! Thanks guys, after more than a month, I did it. Now I understand how it works. It is not so difficult! Thank you Kiss

Congrats! you could have just sent it directly to your exchange Cool

now with those small amount utxo, you can consolidate them when the network fee dropped to low level
or you could just send them with low fee (but higher than 10s/B) and try to accelerate it thru viabtc every hour Grin

I'd better wait for fee to reduce. If I make a transaction again the maximum fees that allows me are 84 satoshi/byte! Wink

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Quote from: chris190 on January 14, 2018, 06:31:50 AM

wow, it works! Thanks guys, after more than a month, I did it. Now I understand how it works. It is not so difficult! Thank you Kiss

Congrats! you could have just sent it directly to your exchange Cool

now with those small amount utxo, you can consolidate them when the network fee dropped to low level
or you could just send them with low fee (but higher than 10s/B) and try to accelerate it thru viabtc every hour Grin

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Quote from: ranochigo on January 13, 2018, 11:21:49 PM

Quote from: chris190 on January 13, 2018, 12:38:17 PM

So it's okay like that? I add these transactions except the (5d2532) and proceed with the payment? and what amount should I put?

Actually, no. Upon closer inspection, I've saw that your address has loads of dust unspent output related to it. Spending them would result in you paying more to spend them than to actually receive.

I would recommend you to exclude any inputs that has 0.0006BTC or less value in it. You can spend however much you want, just like how you are going to spend to Yobit. To spend all, adjust the fee slider to the middle and press max.

wow, it works! Thanks guys, after more than a month, I did it. Now I understand how it works. It is not so difficult! Thank you Kiss

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Quote from: chris190 on January 13, 2018, 12:38:17 PM

So it's okay like that? I add these transactions except the (5d2532) and proceed with the payment? and what amount should I put?

Actually, no. Upon closer inspection, I've saw that your address has loads of dust unspent output related to it. Spending them would result in you paying more to spend them than to actually receive.

I would recommend you to exclude any inputs that has 0.0006BTC or less value in it. You can spend however much you want, just like how you are going to spend to Yobit. To spend all, adjust the fee slider to the middle and press max.

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Quote from: ranochigo on January 13, 2018, 12:33:03 PM

Quote from: chris190 on January 13, 2018, 12:22:35 PM

yes, but these transactions are all confirmed, there are no unconfirmed transactions! How can I do?

You aren't supposed to be including any inputs that is unconfirmed. If you do, your transaction can't confirm until the inputs are confirmed.

The unconfirmed transaction (37c4286c) has been dropped from the mempool of whichever node you are connecting. That isn't a problem since can't use it for now. Delete the transaction (5d2532) from your from column; it cost more fees to spend it than you would receive.

So it's okay like that? I add these transactions except the (5d2532) and proceed with the payment? and what amount should I put?

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Quote from: chris190 on January 13, 2018, 12:22:35 PM

yes, but these transactions are all confirmed, there are no unconfirmed transactions! How can I do?

You aren't supposed to be including any inputs that is unconfirmed. If you do, your transaction can't confirm until the inputs are confirmed.

The unconfirmed transaction (37c4286c) has been dropped from the mempool of whichever node you are connecting. That isn't a problem since can't use it for now. Delete the transaction (5d2532) from your from column; it cost more fees to spend it than you would receive.

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Quote from: Thirdspace on January 13, 2018, 10:46:55 AM

the last screenshot seems captured from coinb.in page?
are you following my tutorial from another thread? you don't need to do that because you have it on electrum already
I gave you the link for you to understand only how to obtain the actual private key that works for your uncompressed address
you should just use the feature on electrum, and follow what HCP said:

Quote from: HCP on January 13, 2018, 12:24:11 AM

The "Coin" Tab (View -> Show Coins) IS the "coin control" in Electrum... you can select "ctrl+click" all the coins you want to spend...

Quote from: HCP on January 13, 2018, 06:11:27 AM

You should also avoid creating that 0.00003602 output that sends to "1JAz" addreesss... it is below the "dust" limit and a lot of nodes are likely to reject your transaction as it is attempting to create a "dust" output.

in addition to that, you should just choose all coin with amount greater than 0.0005 BTC
anything lower than that would cost you more to send that its own input value

yes, but these transactions are all confirmed, there are no unconfirmed transactions! How can I do?

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the last screenshot seems captured from coinb.in page?
are you following my tutorial from another thread? you don't need to do that because you have it on electrum already
I gave you the link for you to understand only how to obtain the actual private key that works for your uncompressed address
you should just use the feature on electrum, and follow what HCP said:

Quote from: HCP on January 13, 2018, 12:24:11 AM

The "Coin" Tab (View -> Show Coins) IS the "coin control" in Electrum... you can select "ctrl+click" all the coins you want to spend...

Quote from: HCP on January 13, 2018, 06:11:27 AM

You should also avoid creating that 0.00003602 output that sends to "1JAz" addreesss... it is below the "dust" limit and a lot of nodes are likely to reject your transaction as it is attempting to create a "dust" output.

in addition to that, you should just choose all coin with amount greater than 0.0005 BTC
anything lower than that would cost you more to send that its own input value

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You should also avoid creating that 0.00003602 output that sends to "1JAz" addreesss... it is below the "dust" limit and a lot of nodes are likely to reject your transaction as it is attempting to create a "dust" output.

I'd remove that as well and let it just become part of the transaction fee.

As for where you want to send it... send it wherever you want, yourself, yobit whatever... just make sure you're sending it to the correct address! Wink

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Quote from: HCP on January 13, 2018, 12:24:11 AM

The "Coin" Tab (View -> Show Coins) IS the "coin control" in Electrum... you can select "ctrl+click" all the coins you want to spend...

Not sure why that other transaction is not showing. I guess the Electrum server you are using has dropped the transaction from it's mempool. In fact, most of the explorers seem to have dropped it as well. It is currently only showing on b.info.

These are the inputs of the transaction, except the highlighted one that I have to delete. Now if I copy them on elecrum you say it works? and then who should I send it not to my address but to that of yobit right?

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The "Coin" Tab (View -> Show Coins) IS the "coin control" in Electrum... you can select "ctrl+click" all the coins you want to spend...

Not sure why that other transaction is not showing. I guess the Electrum server you are using has dropped the transaction from it's mempool. In fact, most of the explorers seem to have dropped it as well. It is currently only showing on b.info.

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Quote from: Thirdspace on January 12, 2018, 01:55:23 PM

Quote from: chris190 on January 12, 2018, 11:52:34 AM

So I could do a new transaction, without unconfirmed input, great! But how? Grin

enable coin control and choose all inputs from 1JAzCquFw... except the amount 0.00395 BTC
and allocate sufficient fee to get the transaction confirmed in reasonable time
do not create a dust change (0.00003602 BTC) like you did in old transaction before
a small change like that would simply burden your future transaction, it costs more to send that its value

I can not find the coin control. The only one is the coin tab, but the transactions are all confirmed!

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Quote from: chris190 on January 12, 2018, 11:52:34 AM

So I could do a new transaction, without unconfirmed input, great! But how? Grin

enable coin control and choose all inputs from 1JAzCquFw... except the amount 0.00395 BTC
and allocate sufficient fee to get the transaction confirmed in reasonable time
do not create a dust change (0.00003602 BTC) like you did in old transaction before
a small change like that would simply burden your future transaction, it costs more to send that its value

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Quote from: ranochigo on January 12, 2018, 11:46:06 AM

Quote from: chris190 on January 12, 2018, 11:41:56 AM

So even doing with a double spent does not solve the problem, right?

Is there a way to get out of it? Undecided

I corrected my post. I wasn't clear on what transaction was the deposit to Yobit.

If it's this: 36f93d3b456756671a4451e2143faefd19220eb30110fcb102b4aa9a4a400f57. You can create a replacement transaction but do not include the 0.004BTC unconfirmed input.

the deposit is this
https://blockchain.info/it/tx/36f93d3b456756671a4451e2143faefd19220eb30110fcb102b4aa9a4a400f57

So I could do a new transaction, without unconfirmed input, great! But how? Grin

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Quote from: chris190 on January 12, 2018, 11:41:56 AM

So even doing with a double spent does not solve the problem, right?

Is there a way to get out of it? Undecided

I corrected my post. I wasn't clear on what transaction was the deposit to Yobit.

If it's this: 36f93d3b456756671a4451e2143faefd19220eb30110fcb102b4aa9a4a400f57. You can create a replacement transaction but do not include the 0.004BTC unconfirmed input.

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Quote from: ranochigo on January 12, 2018, 11:37:30 AM

Quote from: chris190 on January 12, 2018, 11:27:51 AM

now I understand. Perfect I succeeded, thank you.

Now, in your opinion, is it better to accelerate the transaction at a paid accelerator or with double spent?

I would not like to pay a lot for the transaction, but only to unlock the transaction with little ammount! It's possible?

If your request is as per your last sentence, definitely not a paid accelerator

Paying an accelerator would definitely be out of the equation since there is a huge chain of unconfirmed parent transactions and you have to accelerate each and every of those transaction. Creating a replacement transaction wouldn't work either, if the previous transactions pays a small fee. Either you pay a huge sum of money to an accelerator or create a new transaction with a huge sum of money, neither is viable. Woops.

You should script a new transaction and broadcast the new one, excluding the unconfirmed input.

So even doing with a double spent does not solve the problem, right?

Is there a way to get out of it? Undecided

If I do as you say, the other 0.09BTC transaction will be unlocked?
and how do I do this procedure?

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Quote from: chris190 on January 12, 2018, 11:27:51 AM

now I understand. Perfect I succeeded, thank you.

Now, in your opinion, is it better to accelerate the transaction at a paid accelerator or with double spent?

I would not like to pay a lot for the transaction, but only to unlock the transaction with little ammount! It's possible?

If your request is as per your last sentence, definitely not a paid accelerator

Paying an accelerator would definitely be out of the equation since there is a huge chain of unconfirmed parent transactions and you have to accelerate each and every of those transaction. Creating a replacement transaction wouldn't work either, if the previous transactions pays a small fee. Either you pay a huge sum of money to an accelerator or create a new transaction with a huge sum of money, neither is viable. Woops.

You should script a new transaction and broadcast the new one, excluding the unconfirmed input. You probably can't get the 0.004BTC transaction confirmed anytime soon though.

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