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Quote from: NotATether on July 23, 2022, 03:48:09 AM

To be fair though, I don't think you can import a QR code that is located inside a computer file on Electrum (CMIIW).

Correct. But there should be no need to, really. If you can generate a QR code for an address to import in to Electrum, then you can also just copy the address normally in the first place.

Quote from: NotATether on July 23, 2022, 03:48:09 AM

It requires a webcam and a second device or a piece of paper.

Not necessarily. A webcam on its own would suffice, provided it is not built in and so you could there point it at the screen on the same device. Or there are plenty of websites to which you can upload a QR code as an image file and they will decode the QR code for you - whether this is an unacceptable security or privacy risk to you depends on what you are transferring via QR code. (Of course with the caveats of blindly trusting a third party QR decoder and that you should still double check whatever is decoded against the source.)

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 23, 2022, 03:29:35 AM

Based on this comment (https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/w4f7s3/tx_decided_failed/ih9vq97/) and the screenshot on that Reddit thread, it looks like OP exported his address as a QR code, saved that QR code as a picture, and then tried to import that actual .jpeg file in to Electrum, which is obviously not how QR codes work. The resulting long string of hex data was obviously not a valid bitcoin address but I think Electrum probably interpreted it as a script, which allowed him to proceed but returned the error when he tried to send coins to it. Once he changed whatever he copied to an address belonging to an exchange, it worked fine.

To be fair though, I don't think you can import a QR code that is located inside a computer file on Electrum (CMIIW). It requires a webcam and a second device or a piece of paper.

In the Import screen, there should probably be another option "From QR code" that opens a QR code address, or at least disallow importing from a file whose magic bytes matches that of an image.

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Based on this comment (https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/w4f7s3/tx_decided_failed/ih9vq97/) and the screenshot on that Reddit thread, it looks like OP exported his address as a QR code, saved that QR code as a picture, and then tried to import that actual .jpeg file in to Electrum, which is obviously not how QR codes work. The resulting long string of hex data was obviously not a valid bitcoin address but I think Electrum probably interpreted it as a script, which allowed him to proceed but returned the error when he tried to send coins to it. Once he changed whatever he copied to an address belonging to an exchange, it worked fine.

Which also means, of course, that he wasn't double checking whatever he pasted against the source he copied from (or else he would have realized he didn't copy the address correctly), which means he is a prime target to lose his coins to clipboard malware.

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Quote from: Cyrtokjah. on July 21, 2022, 04:48:59 PM

Quote from: Abdussamad on July 21, 2022, 08:46:13 AM

He made a thread with a screenshot on reddit:

So how do I fix it?

The "TX decode failed" error message below means that the RAW Transaction's structure is incorrect.
The rest of the message is the standard message Electrum shows when failing to broadcast a transaction.

Without the actual RAW transaction or the procedures you've followed, no one can tell what went wrong.
That very long output can't be an address though.

But it seems like you've solved it already?
Based from your reply in Reddit (6 hours ago), you already did.

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Quote from: Cyrtokjah. on July 21, 2022, 04:48:59 PM

So how do I fix it?

I think you can only fix it if you have your own full node or ElectrumX server where you can able to edit the minimum relay fee because most of the nodes or servers listed on Electrum only have a relay fee of 1 sat/vbyte lower than that I think no server offers lower than the current minimum fee but you can try to find server under "green circle" change your server and try to send.
Or your last hope is to have an ElectrumX server where you can able to edit the minimum relay fee.

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Quote from: Abdussamad on July 21, 2022, 08:46:13 AM

He made a thread with a screenshot on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/w4f7s3/tx_decided_failed/

Electrum servers use bitcoin core to interact with the blockchain so that's why the message is from core.

So how do I fix it?

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 21, 2022, 08:10:41 AM

So you go to Send and paste in your address from your Electrum Tails wallet?
You then enter the amount of coin you want to send and hit pay?
You then get a window asking you to set a fee?
You then hit send and get a new window asking you to sign and broadcast the transaction?

Talk us through the steps you are taking and where exactly you get the error message. Also please copy and paste the error message exactly in here.

I can’t send pictures on here but yeah I made a Reddit thread on it. Also maybe the electrum tails address is wrong but I took a picture of it on my phone then sent it it through my email and then downloaded the image to my desktop windows computer and uploaded that image to the send address and I did everything as the following steps as how much I want to send then put the fee but it said it was below the relay some reason then I hit finalize then I signed it and tried to broadcast it and I get the same tx error. I switched servers and tried many things but it not working. I hope I didn’t loose my money it was only about 100 dollars worth of Bitcoin. Still wouldn’t want to loose it.

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He made a thread with a screenshot on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/w4f7s3/tx_decided_failed/

Electrum servers use bitcoin core to interact with the blockchain so that's why the message is from core.

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So you go to Send and paste in your address from your Electrum Tails wallet?
You then enter the amount of coin you want to send and hit pay?
You then get a window asking you to set a fee?
You then hit send and get a new window asking you to sign and broadcast the transaction?

Talk us through the steps you are taking and where exactly you get the error message. Also please copy and paste the error message exactly in here.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 21, 2022, 08:00:23 AM

Quote from: Cyrtokjah. on July 21, 2022, 07:28:00 AM

I’m am trying to send Bitcoin through my electrum wallet to my electrum tails wallet and yes they are different wallets not on the same seed.

"TX decode failed" is a Bitcoin Core error message, not an Electrum one. Are you trying to sign a transaction on Electum and broadcast it on Core? Or are you trying to export a partially signed transactions? What version of Electrum are you using? Are you getting some other error message from Electrum?

I’m new to using electrum. I installed the latest version they had and I’m using windows 10. I don’t know what you mean by Core or partially signed. I just followed the YouTube tutorials and other tutorials on how to set it up and it’s not working. No I am not getting any error message from electrum only this. I appreciate the help.

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Quote from: Cyrtokjah. on July 21, 2022, 07:28:00 AM

I’m am trying to send Bitcoin through my electrum wallet to my electrum tails wallet and yes they are different wallets not on the same seed.

"TX decode failed" is a Bitcoin Core error message, not an Electrum one. Are you trying to sign a transaction on Electum and broadcast it on Core? Or are you trying to export a partially signed transactions? What version of Electrum are you using? Are you getting some other error message from Electrum?

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 21, 2022, 07:25:02 AM

Quote from: Cyrtokjah. on July 21, 2022, 07:20:03 AM

The price went up significantly for fees.

It didn't. The mempool was empty 24 minutes ago, meaning everything with the minimum fee of 1 sat/vbyte was confirmed. The current next block fee rate is only higher than this because we haven't found a block in 24 minutes. Just make your transaction with 1 sat/vbyte and it will likely confirm within the next hour. If you are unlucky and it doesn't, then it will confirm overnight when the mempool empties out again.

Quote from: Cyrtokjah. on July 21, 2022, 07:20:03 AM

Also I get a TX decoded failed?

What are you trying to do with your transaction?

I’m am trying to send Bitcoin through my electrum wallet to my electrum tails wallet and yes they are different wallets not on the same seed.

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Quote from: Cyrtokjah. on July 21, 2022, 07:20:03 AM

The price went up significantly for fees.

It didn't. The mempool was empty 24 minutes ago, meaning everything with the minimum fee of 1 sat/vbyte was confirmed. The current next block fee rate is only higher than this because we haven't found a block in 24 minutes. Just make your transaction with 1 sat/vbyte and it will likely confirm within the next hour. If you are unlucky and it doesn't, then it will confirm overnight when the mempool empties out again.

Quote from: Cyrtokjah. on July 21, 2022, 07:20:03 AM

Also I get a TX decoded failed?

What are you trying to do with your transaction?

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Quote from: CoinSkipper on May 19, 2019, 05:13:28 AM

Hello Everyone Grin

I would like to send transaction under 1 sat/byte from Electrum.
When I change fee manually there is message:

Code:

This transaction requires a higher fee, or it will not be propagated by your current server
Try to raise your transaction fee, or use a server with a lower relay fee.

Is there anyway to send this transaction? Do you know any Electrum servers that allow to send transactions with fee under 1 sat/byte?

The price went up significantly for fees. Is there anyway it can work. Also I get a TX decoded failed?

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Quote from: nc50lc on May 21, 2019, 01:56:46 AM

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you should click preview before setting fee to lower than 1 s/b. here are the steps:

3374120 = 0x287c330000000000
3375000 = 0x987f330000000000
45505446ff0002000000000101f986276600cd73853eb4bb0f19cf268c1f76a5c4c08d17bac0351 ff3c
647b9882a00000000fdffffff01287c330000000000160014f913638202550e3dc872f3b22443a5027c
d7ed99feffffffff987f33000000000000000201ff53ff04b2474601eaf2ae8580000000cf38e49 fe705077
6ee853c96ba4586eef5174e5af04f5875bfeaca63a518c11003e0b4cdc469de81434fed3e70fbee 77b3
48322a33fcb1c4e3cc638bd07680a00a0000000095ce0800

change to:
45505446ff0002000000000101f986276600cd73853eb4bb0f19cf268c1f76a5c4c08d17bac0351 ff3c
647b9882a00000000fdffffff01987f330000000000160014f913638202550e3dc872f3b22443a5027c
d7ed99feffffffff987f33000000000000000201ff53ff04b2474601eaf2ae8580000000cf38e49 fe705077
6ee853c96ba4586eef5174e5af04f5875bfeaca63a518c11003e0b4cdc469de81434fed3e70fbee 77b3
48322a33fcb1c4e3cc638bd07680a00a0000000095ce0800

it can successfully sign the transaction with no problems. then you will have to find a way to broadcast this which is the problematic part.

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Quote from: jackg on May 21, 2019, 11:44:59 AM

Messages no longer come from the server since the phishing attack. It might still be possible to send a no fee transaction but it won't get confirmed...

They do. They just don’t allow ANY message to show up.

If they return an known pre-specified message, it will show up (with its hardcoded phrase on Electrum). If they return an unknown (custom message), it will show “Unknown error” by Electrum.

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Messages no longer come from the server since the phishing attack. It might still be possible to send a no fee transaction but it won't get confirmed...

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Quote from: pooya87 on May 20, 2019, 11:09:00 PM

-snip-

Test Transaction:

Don't know if it's intended or a bug but, even Offline Electrum wont allow you to open "preview" if the tx fee was set lower than 1sat/byte.
It's offline and haven't connected to a server Huh

yet the message said:

"This transaction requires a higher fee, or it will not be propagated by your current server Try to raise your transaction fee, or use a server with a lower relay fee."

like the one in the OP.
If Electrum will allow you to directly click "send" after importing the Raw TX to sign it without clicking preview and the selected server allowed it, those methods might work.
Console command can be used as a workaround for signing the TX but requires intermediate to advance knowledge.

Anyways, let's wrap it up:
@CoinSkipper Currently, it's hard to pull this out and probably will cost you more if you want to push it "for the sake of testing".
Just wait for the Bitcoin developers to implement a change in default relay minimum fee before attempting to send a <1sat/byte transaction.

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Quote from: nc50lc on May 19, 2019, 11:02:27 PM

The only way to make the transaction is by using other tools like coinb.in by exporting the required private key(s) for signing ~

you don't need to import the private key anywhere though. you just have to build the transaction elsewhere and then import the hex (raw unsigned transaction) into your Electrum and sign it that way (it is safer). or if you are familiar with a transaction structure you can simply build one with Electrum, click preview, copy the hex and manually edit the amount to have a lower (or 0 fee) and then import it in Electrum and sign that. that way everything is done inside your wallet without needing another tool.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 20, 2019, 09:37:09 AM

Even if he finds a node which would broadcast it, the vast majority of other nodes won't relay it. If it isn't relayed between nodes, it will never been seen by miners. And if miners don't see it, they can't mine it. And even if they do see it, they won't bother mining something with zero fees.

That's what the underlined last sentence said Undecided

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Quote from: Abdussamad on May 20, 2019, 04:45:49 PM

Quote from: jackg on May 20, 2019, 11:29:45 AM

Did they stop the new rollout that came with the version 0.18 where they said they were going to reduce it to 0.25 sat per byte? Am I dreaming or was this not a thing a while back (speculation if nothing else).

I don't see anything about that here: https://bitcoincore.org/en/releases/0.18.0/

The only related Pull request regarding lowering the default relay fee to 200sat/KvB that I searched from Github is this: Pull Request #13922
But is was a year old, closed and never got merged.

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Quote from: jackg on May 20, 2019, 11:29:45 AM

Did they stop the new rollout that came with the version 0.18 where they said they were going to reduce it to 0.25 sat per byte? Am I dreaming or was this not a thing a while back (speculation if nothing else).

I don't see anything about that here: https://bitcoincore.org/en/releases/0.18.0/

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