Electrum - Newly installed but i had an old one

HCP

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Quote from: Kongxx on March 05, 2018, 09:58:41 PM

I never restored the wallet using this seed.
Or is it possible that this seed leads to another wallet not mine?

Electrum allows you to have multiple wallets... So, I suspect that what has happened, is that you're copied down a seed while setting up a wallet in Electrum, but for whatever reason, have actually been using ANOTHER wallet file to get addresses and send/receive transctions... Undecided

It would happen something like this:

- You already have a wallet called "default_wallet" (maybe from a previous install, as Electrum doesn't delete wallet files when uninstalled)
- You create a new wallet, say "wallet_file_1", and write the seed down
- When you re-open Electrum, it opens "default_wallet" instead of "wallet_file_1"... you use this wallet to send/receive
- Your computer harddrive breaks
- You reinstall Electrum and restore seed... but it is restoring "wallet_file_1" which has no transactions or coins Undecided

However, without the original drive, it's impossible to check my theory (you could simply look in the "wallets" folder and see if you have multiple wallet files)...

This is why it is ALWAYS important to make sure that when you create a new wallet, you check that the seed you have written down is working correctly and restoring the wallet with correct addresses before you start using it!

Kongxx

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Quote from: HCP on March 05, 2018, 07:16:28 AM

Can you confirm the number of blocks... Current block height is only 512113... I'm assuming you mean 512095 Wink

If the number is correct, then it looks like it is synced OK... So it looks like another case of "valid, but incorrect seed". Undecided

Have you ever restored your wallet using this seed before or is this the first time you've tried restoring from seed?

Blockchain: 51297 blocks

Connected to 10 nodes

There are various nodes. Current height is 51297.

But these values always change.

I never restored the wallet using this seed.

Or is it possible that this seed leads to another wallet not mine?

HCP

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Can you confirm the number of blocks... Current block height is only 512113... I'm assuming you mean 512095 Wink

If the number is correct, then it looks like it is synced OK... So it looks like another case of "valid, but incorrect seed". Undecided

Have you ever restored your wallet using this seed before or is this the first time you've tried restoring from seed?

Kongxx

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Quote from: Abdussamad on March 05, 2018, 12:58:42 AM

So you are seeing 0 balance in the bottom left corner?

What value are you seeing for blockchain under tools > network > first tab?

Below History, it is blank.

Blockchain: 512905 blocks

Connected nodes contain various values.

Abdussamad

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So you are seeing 0 balance in the bottom left corner?

What value are you seeing for blockchain under tools > network > first tab?

Kongxx

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Quote from: HCP on March 04, 2018, 11:43:29 PM

Do you see ANY addresses from your "old" wallet? Or do you only know that 2 addresses you have used previously in your "old" wallet are not showing in the list in the "new" wallet?

I know only two addresses that i used before from my old Electrum. These two are not in the new Electrum. I am not sure of other addresses in my old Electrum. So i don't know whether those new addresses in the new Electrum used to appear in my old wallet

HCP

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Do you see ANY addresses from your "old" wallet? Or do you only know that 2 addresses you have used previously in your "old" wallet are not showing in the list in the "new" wallet?

Kongxx

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Quote from: Abdussamad on March 04, 2018, 02:48:31 PM

Try creating some change addresses with this command on the console tab:

Code:

for thing in range(0,20): wallet.create_new_address(True)

Then restart electrum and see if the correct balance shows up.

No balance is visible.

Abdussamad

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Try creating some change addresses with this command on the console tab:

Code:

for thing in range(0,20): wallet.create_new_address(True)

Then restart electrum and see if the correct balance shows up.

nc50lc

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Quote from: Kongxx on March 04, 2018, 01:10:28 AM

You misunderstood. I mean i don't know how to put the screenshot here. I don't mean i don't know how to make the screenshot.

Lol, sorry.
Read this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tutorial-how-to-add-image-resize-image-and-make-image-clickable-2958771 for information about posting images.
But since that's a newbie account, use links instead.
Example:

Code:

[url]http.exampleimagehostingsite.com/your_image.jpg[/url]

Kongxx

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Quote from: nc50lc on March 04, 2018, 12:34:11 AM

Quote from: Kongxx on March 02, 2018, 06:19:54 AM

I don't how to show you the screenshot. I can tell you that below Data Description Amount Balance, it is blank.

If your Laptop is windows:

Hold Ctrl+PrintScreen to copy the whole screen then
Create a new image to the desktop. Right Click on the Desktop>New>Bitmap Image.
Right Click the blank image>Edit then Ctrl+V to paste the Screenshot Image (crop it if you want).
Click "Save As" and save it as a jpg image.

If it is Windows 8/10, doing a screenshot is much simpler. Hit WindowsButton+PrintScreen. The image will be saved in *User>Pictures>Screenshot Folder.

You misunderstood. I mean i don't know how to put the screenshot here. I don't mean i don't know how to make the screenshot.

nc50lc

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Quote from: Kongxx on March 02, 2018, 06:19:54 AM

I don't how to show you the screenshot. I can tell you that below Data Description Amount Balance, it is blank.

If your Laptop is windows:

Hold Ctrl+PrintScreen to copy the whole screen then
Create a new image to the desktop. Right Click on the Desktop>New>Bitmap Image.
Right Click the blank image>Edit then Ctrl+V to paste the Screenshot Image (crop it if you want).
Click "Save As" and save it as a jpg image.

If it is Windows 8/10, doing a screenshot is much simpler. Hit WindowsButton+PrintScreen. The image will be saved in *User>Pictures>Screenshot Folder.

Kongxx

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Quote from: HCP on March 03, 2018, 11:12:33 PM

If the old wallet was from Dec 2017, then it is NOT reason c. (assuming you didn't create it with Electrum version 1.9 Tongue

).

So, the "missing" addresses are most likely because of reason a. or b.

- Did you check the "change" address list for the addresses you think are missing?
- Did you try setting the "gap limit" to a larger value as per the link from Abdussamad? On the "Console" tab (View -> Show Console), use the command:

Code:

wallet.change_gap_limit(50)

Then shutdown and re-open Electrum...

I checked the "change". I tried gap limits 50 and 20.
But i still don't get my balance.

I still hope....

HCP

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If the old wallet was from Dec 2017, then it is NOT reason c. (assuming you didn't create it with Electrum version 1.9 Tongue

).

So, the "missing" addresses are most likely because of reason a. or b.

- Did you check the "change" address list for the addresses you think are missing?
- Did you try setting the "gap limit" to a larger value as per the link from Abdussamad? On the "Console" tab (View -> Show Console), use the command:

Code:

wallet.change_gap_limit(50)

Then shutdown and re-open Electrum...

Kongxx

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Quote from: HCP on March 03, 2018, 09:13:09 PM

Quote from: Kongxx on March 02, 2018, 10:16:01 PM

I also can't see two of the old addresses that i used before from my old WALLET in my new wallet.

If you have missing addresses then it is possible that:

a. The addresses you're looking for a "change" addresses - Electrum displayed "receiving" address only by default. Did you adjust the dropdown on the "Addresses" tab from "receiving" to "change"?

b. The addresses you can't find are past the "gap limit" of your wallet - Default gap limit is 20, did you try adjusting the gap limit like the article in Abdussamad's post suggested?

c. You have a (VERY) old wallet that allowed storing imported private keys AND keys generated from seed - How old is your wallet? If this is the case, you will likely not be able to recover those keys/addresses, unless you have them or your old wallet file backed up.

I created my old wallet on Dec 2017.

HCP

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Quote from: Kongxx on March 02, 2018, 10:16:01 PM

I also can't see two of the old addresses that i used before from my old WALLET in my new wallet.

If you have missing addresses then it is possible that:

a. The addresses you're looking for a "change" addresses - Electrum displayed "receiving" address only by default. Did you adjust the dropdown on the "Addresses" tab from "receiving" to "change"?

b. The addresses you can't find are past the "gap limit" of your wallet - Default gap limit is 20, did you try adjusting the gap limit like the article in Abdussamad's post suggested?

c. You have a (VERY) old wallet that allowed storing imported private keys AND keys generated from seed - How old is your wallet? If this is the case, you will likely not be able to recover those keys/addresses, unless you have them or your old wallet file backed up.

Kongxx

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Quote from: Abdussamad on March 03, 2018, 01:50:10 PM

did you try all the things mentioned in that link on post 15 above?

I think i already tried all that were relevant to me and that i understood.

Abdussamad

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did you try all the things mentioned in that link on post 15 above?

Kongxx

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I also can't see two of the old addresses that i used before from my old WALLET in my new wallet.

Abdussamad

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In post 5 he says he restored from seed. @kongxx try the things listed here.

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