Topic: Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB - page 135. (Read 1061417 times)

Ok so then if the round luck is tied to finding a new block, then why does it affect the amount of shares paid during that round.  The miners are still processing shares and shares are still being processed, but when a round luck stretches 10 - 12 hours long it seems the shares go flat line also.

Is there a conciliation between the round luck and the shares awarded. 

What i see is the round luck severely affects the shares rewarded.

So i am lost hehe...

Wizkid

Sorry for all the dumb questions, just trying to get my hard head to understand all this.

What exactly defines a round, in reference to the round luck percentage.

And if the round luck is 32% thats a bad luck for that specific round.  ok

So then i go look at the block stats and 99% of the time there is a block thats has extreamly low luck percentage, and that would make since to me.

Right now the pool round luck is about 32 % for the past 8-9 hours,
but here are the blocks.

8 hours   2014-07-18 08:50:23   00:29:03   3,155,503,232   17.34G   549.4%   7,775.55 Th   61 of 120   19MNLWfGxL...   311,302   ...4dca784a5cb214fccb
8 hours   2014-07-18 06:22:54   02:27:29   16,020,373,632   17.34G   108.2%   7,775.68 Th   64 of 120   1BE9a3t5Uk...   311,299   ...6c5e9827bee907ee03
11 hours   2014-07-18 04:48:41   01:34:13   10,219,502,720   17.34G   169.6%   7,764.45 Th   78 of 120   1PQdNewEGf...   311,285   ...28a6bb140c9d8bb0c2
12 hours   2014-07-18 02:47:34   02:01:06   13,025,143,424   17.34G   133.1%   7,699.22 Th   85 of 120   17xetsNGyr...   311,278   ...d659bd9489205e65f7
14 hours   2014-07-18 02:36:38   00:10:56   1,163,010,176   17.34G   1,490.6%   7,614.47 Th   104 of 120   1DJpsvnM7x...   311,259   ...dfee1e69ef36da484c
15 hours   2014-07-18 01:02:54   01:33:45   10,065,529,856   17.34G   172.2%   7,685.53 Th   108 of 120   1CS7gyvYjM...   311,255   ...b5b8503693a10d2979
16 hours   2014-07-18 00:02:22   01:00:31   6,515,309,696   17.34G   266.1%   7,706.70 Th   118 of 120   1AXrcQBnLB...   311,245   ...54224ee76103a5487f

nothing with a low luck percentage and the completed blocks prior do not either.

Can some one on here please explain this so i can stop asking so many dumb questions.

Thanks so much for your time in helping us learn all this.

There's virtually zero risk of opening a hole of any kind by adding a firewall rule that allows known *outbound* traffic on a known port from a known device... *shrugs*

I do have access to the firewall, however I would like to not need to go around making holes in it just for my own pleasure. Thats the simple reason.

That being said, I guess i'll end up doing just that.

I actually had decided (a while ago) to stop officially supporting non-mining ports for mining.

Generally, if you don't even have access to *outbound* traffic through a firewall for mining, and you also don't have access/authority to fix that situation, then it is most likely that you don't have authority/permission to be mining at that location in the first place... and abuse/theft of resources is not something I condone.

My suggestion would be to get outbound on port 3334 enabled.

Is it possible somehow to mine on eligius on port 443? (firewall issue)

OK  thanks for your time.

I do greatly appreciate. it  Just a crappy rounds not a problem.

No need to take this private.  If anyone else is having similar questions it's better to keep everything open.

I'm confused as to why you think you havent been rewarded for any work.  At the time for each block Eligius has found there is a corresponding increase in your balance graph.

Likewise, with this current long round (12 hours!?), you balance graph has leveled off as shares are shelved due to the crappy round.

I see nothing unusual here.

Wizkid

Here is my address 1P66KUPHNSh9DjcHHN5nBC6AuaPfoCQkut I have reviewed other contributors and there stats appear about the same as mine for the same time period.  Whats strange is the stats page for my address us at 22%,  and when i called it a night 8 hours a go it was 75 % not uncommon and the pool was working on 14 blocks.  We are now down to 2 blocks working on so we completed 12 blocks in that 8 hour period not bad at all. But not to be reward any work in the last 12 blocks seems strange.   

I do understand the PPS,  but to say that i have not process any shares in that amount of time does not sound right based on my total hash rate of 6TH.  I will check my miners and see if i have high rejection rate, but i would be surprised if i did.

I am not complaining at all, just trying to learn.  I am a numbers person and understand stats. 

I think you run a very professional and straight up Pool. I have been in the Information Technology business for the past 29 years, i understand the large amount of work this must be for you.  I can not thank you enough for all your hard work.

I have recommended this pool to everyone i share the BTC mining experience with.

We can take this discussion to email if you like.  I will be glad to send you my email address if you like

JC

The amount you earn per block is not based on luck. You are paid up to 100% PPS.  I'd guess your shares rewarded as of last block is at or near 100% already with the recent luck paying your shelved shares.

Seems to be no stats issue.

Can check further if you share your address though, but above is what I guess is happening... which is normal behavior. You cant be paid more than the work you put in. Eligius does not use proportional reward system since this is broken. Neither does any other pool.

Wizkid

I suspect the stats are broken or stuck.

In the past 20 hours or so we have solved approximately 14 blocks.

The 24 hour luck rate is 131.64 Last 10 blocks 158.16 last 12 hours 99.88 which all are great, but according to my stats i have not been awarded not even .019 btc with 6TH of hashing power. 

So i suspect a stats issue some where.

Just thought you might want to know.

With luck rates that high i usually mine about .019 per block and the last 12 or 13 blocks 0.0

Depends on how long the DoS lasted before safeguards kicked in.  A lot of the time only a handful of people are affected and need reconnecting and it happens quickly enough to not affect the pool.
If you look back at when we were getting regular large DoS attacks, you can see the little dips as people failed over for short periods.

There haven't been any DoS attacks that have caused any real issues lately though, thankfully.

so when you said awhile back, the reason for my dc's from pool was cause of being ddos'd, would that show up on pool hashrate as well? or does it only happen to a few ppl here and there for some reason?

I see no outages or anything out of the ordinary on this side.  Also, a pool wide issue is generally easily noticed in the pool hash rate graph... which shows no issues in the recent history, either.

No problems here. Connecting from US.

no problem here...sometimes my hosted miners drop connection for a few mintues but come back...my home miners are rock steady on here thou...hosted in china...thank god for backup pools

and wow our 90 day luck has gone upto 100.35%...we're beating guild at something hehe course theirs is 4 month avg...mine only goes 90days so idk what our 4month would be...

Your work is highly appreciated.
Daily payments coupled with lowest difficulty rise in a long time, plus nice round luck makes georgem happy!

Is anyone else having connectivity issues or is a problem in my DC?

I try not to let it get backed up too much.  Unfortunately I get swamped with tons to do and it hits the back burner often.

I'll try to keep it in check a bit better.  (Was 6 weeks between manual payouts this last time)