Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB - page 189.

Luke-Jr

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Quote from: klondike_bar on April 29, 2014, 12:51:43 PM

I like eligius a lot as a pool, but whatever is causing these DDOS attacks needs to be dealt with properly rather that just fail-safeing the stats page every other day

I agree, please help figure out which government has jurisdiction and rant at them to make an arrest Sad

klondike_bar

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ASIC Wannabe

something is up today - i have been unable to properly load the stats page all morning, now its a 502

atop of that, all my miners went offline briefly nd just started mining normally again ~2minutes ago. not sure if this was a pool issue or a network blip on my end though, since my teamviewer link dropped off briefly as well (but seemingly after the miners stopped hashing)

I like eligius a lot as a pool, but whatever is causing these DDOS attacks needs to be dealt with properly rather that just fail-safeing the stats page every other day

Lucko

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From what I figure out it is/was a P2Pool node...

eleuthria

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Quote from: nwp on April 29, 2014, 10:58:14 AM

I'm new to this, I don't know if they do or don't, I should read up on stratum to have a better understanding of how it works and sniff the traffic to understand what's being sent over the wire. Can someone can explain how the hijacked work is redirected/attributed to someone else? Please excuse my inexperience/lack of understanding. From what I've read in this thread it sounds like work is hijacked and sent to another pool, is that correct? Is the theory that the stats pages are being attacked to mask what's happening to miners by preventing them from seeing their stats?

Quote from: brox on April 29, 2014, 08:40:16 AM

Quote from: nwp on April 29, 2014, 08:27:06 AM

Regarding the MiTM attack that some users reported, are those users able to see the payout address used by sniffing the outgoing packets? Is there a white list of Eligius IPs I can configure in my routers for mining traffic or any other addresses other than the one reported to block?

Why in the world should outgoing packets contain payout address?

The MITM attack isn't rewriting the payout address of your workers. It's actually redirecting you to a different mining server, which is why your stats stop working. If you're affected, you'd see your speed drop off on Eligius.

However, it WOULD be possible to see the Bitcoin address that coins are being mined to on the attacker's server. The stratum work messages include the coinbase which has the payout address in it. That is, assuming the server you're redirected to is it's own mining pool and not a proxy to another mining pool/service.

PlanetCrypto

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Mining Up
Stats page sketchy at best.
5 S1's

nwp

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I'm new to this, I don't know if they do or don't, I should read up on stratum to have a better understanding of how it works and sniff the traffic to understand what's being sent over the wire. Can someone can explain how the hijacked work is redirected/attributed to someone else? Please excuse my inexperience/lack of understanding. From what I've read in this thread it sounds like work is hijacked and sent to another pool, is that correct? Is the theory that the stats pages are being attacked to mask what's happening to miners by preventing them from seeing their stats?

Quote from: brox on April 29, 2014, 08:40:16 AM

Quote from: nwp on April 29, 2014, 08:27:06 AM

Regarding the MiTM attack that some users reported, are those users able to see the payout address used by sniffing the outgoing packets? Is there a white list of Eligius IPs I can configure in my routers for mining traffic or any other addresses other than the one reported to block?

Why in the world should outgoing packets contain payout address?

whizzard

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Quote from: ronin4bits on April 29, 2014, 10:40:40 AM

Quote from: whizzard on April 29, 2014, 09:56:46 AM

Does anyone know how to get in contact with Eligius? I dont care if the web is down but I really hope mining is proceeding! The last block was over 7 hours long and I am renting some miners right now... could be a big loss for me.

+1 for owning your own gear.

Mining up for me - 3x S1s.

I own 3 miners... but I rent when I get a good deal. I am thinking of switching mine to a different pool Eligius has me nervous lately. There was a section of the site down for almost a day on Saturday.

ronin4bits

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Quote from: whizzard on April 29, 2014, 09:56:46 AM

Does anyone know how to get in contact with Eligius? I dont care if the web is down but I really hope mining is proceeding! The last block was over 7 hours long and I am renting some miners right now... could be a big loss for me.

+1 for owning your own gear.

Mining up for me - 3x S1s.

RealMalatesta

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Quote from: whizzard on April 29, 2014, 09:56:46 AM

Does anyone know how to get in contact with Eligius? I dont care if the web is down but I really hope mining is proceeding! The last block was over 7 hours long and I am renting some miners right now... could be a big loss for me.

My miners all are working, it is obviously only the website which is affected (ddos again???)
Well, long blocks are part of the pool-luck...

whizzard

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Does anyone know how to get in contact with Eligius? I dont care if the web is down but I really hope mining is proceeding! The last block was over 7 hours long and I am renting some miners right now... could be a big loss for me.

merv77

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Quote from: masterOfDisaster on April 29, 2014, 09:39:10 AM

Am I the only one who is experiencing issues with http://eligius.st?
Is it only the web frontend or is mining affected as well?

same here,
cannot see stats page, just coming blank

edit. but seems to be mining away just fine

masterOfDisaster

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Am I the only one who is experiencing issues with http://eligius.st?
Is it only the web frontend or is mining affected as well?

soapmodem

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Are we still being credited for NMC? If so where can we check the balance?

RealMalatesta

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Quote from: Bitcoin.Greece on April 28, 2014, 04:57:14 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 28, 2014, 01:20:47 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin.Greece on April 28, 2014, 01:06:03 PM

Quote from: soapmodem on April 27, 2014, 05:08:42 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin.Greece on April 27, 2014, 04:50:16 AM

is there any way to manage the difficulty of the miner manually ?

Pretty sure it's dynamic (server-determined) only, calculated to provide 32 shares/minute:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

So there is no way ... because dragon miners need the difficulty to be handled be the pool .
I try the dragon miner on Eligius and does not give normal speed

See if the Dragon miner people will provide a sample unit and docs so I can implement BFGMiner support.
Besides having support from the leading mining software, BFGMiner support avoids bugs like this.

I think that Eligius experts must take care of this problem and contact them to find some kind of solution.
I like Eligius but I am forced now to go to BTC Guild

I have two dragons working on Eligius. They started with more than 1 TH but soon went down to about 600 Gh. It turned out that Lketc had used bad cables for powering the boards. Finally, when they were burning and the PSU went to electronic heavan, a new PSU did the trick. Since then, no problem at all with Eligius (but I swear: Never again, I'll order a Dragon...)

brox

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Quote from: nwp on April 29, 2014, 08:27:06 AM

Regarding the MiTM attack that some users reported, are those users able to see the payout address used by sniffing the outgoing packets? Is there a white list of Eligius IPs I can configure in my routers for mining traffic or any other addresses other than the one reported to block?

Why in the world should outgoing packets contain payout address?

nwp

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What are your pool settings on the miner? I get close to 1TH/s consistently +- 10%. The diff on the miner config is set to 256. Last difficulty reported in the miner.php page is usually 512 when I check it, sometimes higher. Also, no issues with my antminers or BFLs connecting. This last block is a doozy...

Regarding the MiTM attack that some users reported, are those users able to see the payout address used by sniffing the outgoing packets? Is there a white list of Eligius IPs I can configure in my routers for mining traffic or any other addresses other than the one reported to block?

Quote from: Bitcoin.Greece on April 28, 2014, 04:57:14 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 28, 2014, 01:20:47 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin.Greece on April 28, 2014, 01:06:03 PM

Quote from: soapmodem on April 27, 2014, 05:08:42 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin.Greece on April 27, 2014, 04:50:16 AM

is there any way to manage the difficulty of the miner manually ?

Pretty sure it's dynamic (server-determined) only, calculated to provide 32 shares/minute:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

So there is no way ... because dragon miners need the difficulty to be handled be the pool .
I try the dragon miner on Eligius and does not give normal speed

See if the Dragon miner people will provide a sample unit and docs so I can implement BFGMiner support.
Besides having support from the leading mining software, BFGMiner support avoids bugs like this.

I think that Eligius experts must take care of this problem and contact them to find some kind of solution.
I like Eligius but I am forced now to go to BTC Guild

freebit13

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I got Satoshi's avatar!

Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on April 28, 2014, 04:17:12 PM

Quote from: freebit13 on April 28, 2014, 04:09:09 PM

Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on April 28, 2014, 04:02:05 PM

I thought the S1s were strictly failover. I figure you could probably edit /etc/init.d/cgminer to add the --failover-only to your secondary and tertiary pools, but OOTB, it's not there.

Yes, they are, but apparently the DDOS attacks were causing some miners to disconnect, which would make them failover to the backup pool.

That's my point... since the S1 is failover, if it was disconnected from Eligius due to DDOS attack, it wouldn't go back to Eligius without a reboot (or changing the pool configurations). They wouldn't "leak" shares, they'd simply stop mining on Eligius altogether.

Nope they don't failover until they are rebooted, cgminer will check the connection every 3 mins or so and if the Eligius connection is available, it'll switch back again.

taipo

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Kia ora!

Thanks, good idea, works great.

mdude77

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Quote from: taipo on April 28, 2014, 08:27:22 PM

Quote from: freebit13 on April 28, 2014, 04:09:09 PM

Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on April 28, 2014, 04:02:05 PM

I thought the S1s were strictly failover. I figure you could probably edit /etc/init.d/cgminer to add the --failover-only to your secondary and tertiary pools, but OOTB, it's not there.

Yes, they are, but apparently the DDOS attacks were causing some miners to disconnect, which would make them failover to the backup pool.

The DDoS ( or perhaps the attempts at mitigating it ) appears to be limiting the amount of connections to the stratum servers. No matter how many different ways I restart these ant s1's, only 2 of the three will connect / report an 'alive' mining connection.

Maybe use a proxy on your side? Then you only have one connection going in. I use slush's stratum proxy here w/o an issue.

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taipo

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Kia ora!

Quote from: freebit13 on April 28, 2014, 04:09:09 PM

Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on April 28, 2014, 04:02:05 PM

I thought the S1s were strictly failover. I figure you could probably edit /etc/init.d/cgminer to add the --failover-only to your secondary and tertiary pools, but OOTB, it's not there.

Yes, they are, but apparently the DDOS attacks were causing some miners to disconnect, which would make them failover to the backup pool.

The DDoS ( or perhaps the attempts at mitigating it ) appears to be limiting the amount of connections to the stratum servers. No matter how many different ways I restart these ant s1's, only 2 of the three will connect / report an 'alive' mining connection.

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