Topic: Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB - page 218. (Read 1061449 times)

That is how it's designed to operate. Each share will never receive 100% of it's value paid, so therefore each share will forever sit around in some partially unpaid state. It's a highly convoluted way of charging operating fees without using the word "fee".

Not that fees are bad, they're needed to cover all sorts of things - especially in (effectively) a PPS pool... just misleading the way it's currently advertised.

this pool doesn't seem to payout the way it explains itself..  been watching it like a hawk the past week and seems payouts has a mind of its own

a detail on the mechanics (not the theory) would be useful since it doesn't seem to behave in practice as it is intended... basically it seems all accumulated work gets held ransom regardless of current block luck cycles which in theory should be paying out portions past your pay threshold but in practice it just sits there and says you are going further and further behind as if all your current work is old work that has to wait for super luck to include you .. and that doesn't even seem to trigger it either

it is broken

I will do, I just wanted an update, your job is done for now. :-)

Please do. Saves me the trouble.

Aye, now we can quote this over and over again for the next 10 pages of questions. *giggles* ;-)

P.S. I have no problem to wait for my NMC. Just keep the pool running.

There was a bug in some old stats code that allowed some SQL injection to the web stats (fixed here) and someone used it to mess up the web server side copy of the My Eligius data.  The pool servers were in no way affected by any of this.  The web server, by definition, is considered insecure and not able to affect pool operations.  Everything pulled from the webserver (signatures for options) is re-verified on other servers.  So, even if an attacker were actually able to compromise the web server (which they didn't) it wouldn't have any real effect.

The NMC payout code runs on another server, pulls this data, reverifies the signatures, and then pays out the proper amount of NMC.  The issue was that my code for re-verifying the signatures was broken and I didn't realize, so, one set of payouts got messed up and used corrupt data.  I fixed the stats bug, fixed any broken options from the previous day's backup, and am in the process of completely rewriting and testing the NMC payout code.

My time has been extremely limited.  Combine that with battling constant DDoS attacks against the pool for nearly a week now and I hope you can understand why this isn't quite complete yet.  I am working on it, haven't forgotten about it, and it will get done.  Also, when I do make the next NMC payout it will include backpay from the last valid payout (Mar 8th I believe off the top of my head) to the next valid payout.  The pool is still mining NMC for you guys and everyone will be paid their NMC.

No offense to anyone, but I have been ignoring most questions about whats going on about NMC (via PM, email, IRC, etc) just because answering the same question 1000x is a waste of time I should be using to actually work on the problem.

Stay tuned.  I'm hoping to have it done today, but no promises.

-wk

IMHO they shutdown the payouts, not the merged mining. An offical update on this topic would be nice.

Last I heard they got hacked (or, at least, noticed suspicious activity) and temporarily shut down NMC [payouts].

EDIT: added "payouts" for clarification

For some reason the side Namecoin mining appears to have stopped about a month or so ago...has merged Namecoin mining been disabled?

Too bad the NSA killed IPsec.

*sigh*

Continuous DoS attacks... although the attacker seems to be running out of resources lately since they're not nearly as strong as they were.

Unfortunately its still enough to play havoc with the webserver.

There was a time when the shelved shares almost caught up - I think it was back at 100% for a while. Will that ever happen again?

stats are down again?  

EDIT: UP Again.

Thank You mdude77, that clears things up in my mind after reading this: "The difficulty is the measure of how difficult it is to find a new block compared to the easiest it can ever be. It is recalculated every 2016 blocks to a value such that the previous 2016 blocks would have been generated in exactly two weeks had everyone been mining at this difficulty. This will yield, on average, one block every ten minutes. As more miners join, the rate of block creation will go up. As the rate of block generation goes up, the difficulty rises to compensate which will push the rate of block creation back down." from the Bitcoin wiki. May your Hash rate always increase, Jesse11

Yes.  In this case, the "one" is the pool.  You get a piece of it based on your amount of shares submitted for that block try attempt.

M

I understand, but the one that "creates" the new block is the one that gets it?

The one who finds a block that works.  Doesn't matter how many transactions are in it.  If one of the pools finds a hash of that block beginning with 0000000000000000 then that pool gets the block.  (I believe it's presently 16 0's... could be more or less.  It was less in the past, it will be more in the future.)

What I don't understand, who gets a newly mined block. With all the Pools mining on the blockchain and all the mining power out there, who gets the block. The one with the most trans in the new block or the one with the last trans in the newly mined block?

Thanks. I read more about it and figur out it is my missunderstending of the system.