Topic: Elizabeth Warren claims (Read 324 times)

she just said a claim without evidence, in today's era the majority of people are smart and filter the news they get on the internet.  she said the amount of fraud in crypto was very large but why didn't she say that fraud on fiat was also large..

She's on her own agenda which of course is not in favour of crypto. As most politicians, everyone will say whatever the majority wants to hear, it is what they're paid for.

There's almost no need to read into the words of politician (specially those that don't have the power to do anything) and regard all they say as FUD and nothing more.

Have to agree here because I personally know several socalled HODLers who actually just bought Bitcoin at a platform or app and kept everything there,,, every time they buy it is just their balance on that account that is growing.

Not once did they even actually make a real Bitcoin transaction,,, and they hate to hear about private keys and network fees etc.

In todays world it's actually quite easy to disable things like that so they never work again.
Keep in mind this equipment is not like the stuff that was left in Vietnam back in the day.

It's more along the lines of computers with engines and wings and rotors.

Could you fabricate the engine parts if they did something like dump sand in and watch the turbine destroy itself? Probably. But it's a bunch of high tech alloys so what you can build is not going to work as well or last.
Can they find or fabricate replacement for a proprietary flight management computer? No way.
On the bizarre 1 in a million chance they could get one and replace it, do they have a way of programming & configuring it? No.

Will some vehicles still be working & flying because the US military did not have a way to get to them to disable them before the pullout. Yes.

-Dave

In a previous post, I wrote that it was about as much as $ 2.3 trillion in money that was literally thrown away. As for military aircraft, it is true that quite a number of them remain in Afghanistan, but it is also true that most of them are disabled to such an extent that it will hardly ever take off again. Even if this is not the case, it is not easy to get off a camel or a horse and operate modern aircraft.

I don't hear any words from such person like that. I only hear advice from cryptocurrency related company's CEO or advisors who support cryptocurrency. Their intention is pure to give clear information about situation without have any other intention regarding their jobs and interest. I already did some calculation and adjusting strategies so I am not easily influenced by bad news or any FUD or even current market situation because I did forecasting for future not now.

That number is in hundreds of trillions at least. The American escape in August alone gave up $85 billion worth of weapons. Right now Taliban is among the top 5 countries that have the most number of most advanced helicopters

That covers 90% of it. The last 10% is the fact that she (and most other politicians) have to cater to what they think the majority of their constituents want an like. So people hear ransowmware & crypto she has to give the 20 second sound bite about it.



What gets me is the fact that people keep going back for more. The 1st 5 times Wells Fargo screwed you over were not that bad so you go back for a 6th?
It's not like it's not common knowledge of how bad they are, and what they do. And its not like it's that difficult to go to one of the dozens of other banks and credit unions all over the place and move your account.

I deal with Chase as my primary bank, did not start with them my account wound up there through decades of mergers with other banks. Technically I have had the same account and routing number for 30+ years and probably 6 or 7 bank names. They treat me well and since I have been with them for so long I do get a lot of perks. But lets be honest, the 1st time they screw me over, I am gone. Due to a hilarious miscommunication a couple of years ago I put in a check that was not good at the time I deposited it. So it bounced and I got hit with a $15 fee. I called and they took it off. Would I have left if they had not, probably not since it was my mistake anyway.

Had a the same issue with the 2nd check issued with the same miscommunication. BoA would not take the fee off. This was after they lost another deposit about a month earlier for close to a week and that *was their fault*. Pointed that out to them, they did not care. Moved that checking account to a local credit union. Had I not had the issue with the lost deposit I probably would not have cared, since yes I did put in a bad check. But not to give me back a few bucks after they did make a major whoops a month earlier.  I'm gone.

When I hear about people getting hit by Wells Fargo time and time again, I just think about all the people who send their BTC to the double your crypto scams. Or the ones who we see here on the forum who play at the online casinos that have dozens of scam reports against them but figure "1xBit has scammed 100s of other people, but I'll be fine"

-Dave

We all come to understand that she is a government trying to protect the USD's position as the world reserve currency. Don't heed or follow anything she advises or says. She's part of a group of boomers desperately trying to save a collapsing fiat currency in a new world. Instead, they're spending billions of dollars trying to regulate and crash break it. they just want to manipulate and be in their control so this has caused a lot of people to disagree.

Unfortunately, this is not just the case with the US, the fact is that most politicians in the world are not in the category of capable and intelligent people, but in the category of those who are suitable for their functions in the sense of carrying out the orders of those who rule from the shadows. Therefore, one should not expect the average politician to understand cryptocurrencies in a positive way, because for them everything they cannot fully control is undesirable and unnecessary.


$100 billion would be money most would not blink at, but an adventure called Afghanistan has cost US taxpayers about $2.3 trillion so far - and the only result is that terrorists suddenly became good guys.

Most of these government shills run blind on their own faults and focus largely on what they are targeting to make them look like they're trying to save the day when in fact they aren't.

Don't get me wrong, scams related to cryptocurrencies are really a huge problem, but the amount that she's getting mad about is laughable compared to other matters concerning fraud and scams made on other financial institutions like banks. Perhaps they should try to look even further on the other side of the spectrum before they 'grind' their gears on cryptocurrencies.

And I wonder how many billions have been robbed from ordinary people that are at the mercy of large banking institutions?

No one takers her seriously anyways, see her failed 2020 US Presidential campaign. The only interest she shows in crypto is devising ways to tax it to fund her lunatic socialist programs.

Elizabeth Warren is trying to throw any FUD she can on Bitcoin. She tries to portray herself as a champion of the people but that could not be further from reality. She is not trying to protect consumers. Trying to restrict Bitcoin will only deprive millions of people from financial opportunities that are not possible within traditional finance. There was even this open letter to Elizabeth Warren stating all the benefits Bitcoin offers. Apparently, she does not care and is even willing to screw over minorities and women for the sake of protecting the US dollar's hegemony.

HODLing doesn't count as use for the purposes of comparing the relative occurrence of scams in crypto and fiat.  If you take two similar scenarios - like buying something on a p2p market with crypto or with fiat, the chance of getting scammed when you use crypto is higher, because there's no chargebacks and the receiver is pseudonymous.



Even these uses that you mention are mostly just about getting rich quick. This isn't going to last forever.

Elizabeth Warren represented some people who could no understand something like Bitcoin can be now gaining the interest of growing number of people. She literally and miserably to understand why there is really Bitcoin. We have to remember that Bitcoin was born coming from the last huge financial crisis that hit the country years ago during the Bush administration and into the Obama regime. the lady will continue to be spewing out figures that are one-sided and maybe even half-truths, half-lies. We are not listening to this woman since she has no power over our financial decisions. She is though trying her best to stop newbies to come to cryptocurrency but she will not succeed just like her failed presidential bid.

Elizabeth Warren is sometimes called "Pocahontas" by americans. She claims to represent a minority of native american indians by heritage and ancestry. She took a genetic test to support these claims. The test concluded she may have had a single native american ancestor "6 to 10 generations ago". People might want to take anything most american politicians say with a grain of salt. We're usually not sending our best or brightest when it comes to politics.

US healthcare and welfare programs routinely send out billions in aid which turn out to be fraudulent. I think I may have seen articles published by approved media sources claiming the upper ceiling for this figure could range in the hundreds of billions. $80 million is an insignificant sum in contrast to waste and inefficiency perpetrated by state bureaucracy.

American reconstruction efforts in afghanistan alone could have costed in excess of $100 billion.

Its not hard to label Elizabeth Warren's comment as the pot calling the kettle black.

The government and the banks works together, so they will always do anything in favor of the banks. Since whatever is favoring the banks it's also going to be favoring the government as they will be getting something from it.

So, it shouldn’t be a surprise to you when you see them saying things in favor of banks and saying bad words that will ruin cryptocurrency. They will always talk about scams that are being carried out with cryptocurrency, but they are forgetting that there are lots of scammers that are carrying out their activities by making use of banks. scam has been occurring many years even before we thought of cryptocurrency.

This kind of method is their main weapon back then they are using mainstream media to execute their plan to brainwash people with their claims. now they talking huge numbers to attract readers about their so-called research which has not been proven.

They wanted to cause confusion to the public or they wanted to get some attention with their hoax unique research. If you wanted to publish such news, you need to tell every source you got it from. no need to hide anything if you are truthful about your claim.

I think although she claimed,,, she would have had to back it up from stats or the numbers were given to her from her minions So I think we do not have to argue about that. The problem is what else in fiat is either hidden or unreported, like what you said, the 12 B of overdraft people paid for nothing, which, by the way most of it is extremely unfair.

Both are scams,,, the only difference is overdraft is a legal scam.

Depends on what you actually mean with "using" crypto. It comes down to personal opinion: if you hold bitcoin for investment/hedging purposes, then merely doing nothing and just holding is considered "using".

And also with other cryptocurrencies: like them or not and while there's a lot of BS, the fact is, some people do use them. (yield farming, blockchain gaming, NFTs, etc)