elmanchez exit scam, loan default - page 2.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 25, 2020, 03:44:57 PM

He made a couple of ridiculous borrowing attempts:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delet-it-please-5196718
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5206544

In the second topic, I was surprised TMAN gave the Newbie a loan: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5206544.html

That happened 2 days before TMAN started TMAN's Services Bitches.. You want to be seen? TMAN is keen..
From TMAN's feedback on elmanchez:

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This user took a loan from me with no collateral, I think I was probably drunk to agree with it. since then he has repaid the loan x4 with work that I required. I trust this user, I am not advising anyone else to lend, but I do believe elmanchez will be a great addition to the crypto community

It looks like he wasn't paid back in Bitcoin, but in services provided. I saw that topic back then, but didn't remember who started it. Now it's starting to make sense Sad

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I can't recall who had left but there was negative feedback on his profile at the beginning due to unreasonable loan requests. But we must say, elmanchez is a very clever person who knows how to manage people. He gained trust very fast and skip very fast as well. For lenders, it's become more difficult to spot the likely scammer. Hope OP will avoid such as borrower in the future and get a lesson from this story.

Sorry for your loss.

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So sorry brother, these loan defaulters are really eating up your capital. Cry

Pay attention to low ranking accounts that are less than 2 years old here and seem to be applying for loans very frequently. I think they do it to first build trust while planning to pull of an exit scam.

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He made a couple of ridiculous borrowing attempts:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delet-it-please-5196718
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5206544

But then apparently figured out that requesting a loan like that attracts too much scrutiny, whereas chatting with a lender directly he can impart the con(fidence) more successfully.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on July 25, 2020, 02:29:29 PM

Believe me, I'm salty enough a little more is hardly noticeable. I feel like an idiot myself.

I am sure you learned the lesson.

Elmanchez reached me out in PM multiple times earlier to remove my neutral rating regarding his earlier loan repayment issues. I was feeling suspicious since then. Anyway will support the flag and add the rating unless resolved.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 25, 2020, 02:22:32 PM

DireWolfM14, I'm not trying to pour salt in your wounds here, but why didn't you get any collateral from this idiot? I know you've been around long enough to know that no-collateral crypto loans between complete strangers on the internet are as risky as loans can get.

Believe me, I'm salty enough a little more is hardly noticeable. I feel like an idiot myself.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 25, 2020, 01:17:05 PM

His account has no reputation left so most possibly he is not coming back anymore.

Yeah, the amount he scammed is worth way more than the value of his account so I'd agree this is most likely an exit scam.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 25, 2020, 01:41:57 PM

imagining being so desperately poor you’re willing to scam & lose your account over that much money

That account wasn't that old, nor was he exactly a trusted member. I'm sure he's not regretting the fact that the account is now all but useless. In any case, I seriously doubt scammers weigh the costs like we do after they've committed a scam--my guess is that most scammers on bitcointalk have multiple accounts anyway.

DireWolfM14, I'm not trying to pour salt in your wounds here, but why didn't you get any collateral from this idiot? I know you've been around long enough to know that no-collateral crypto loans between complete strangers on the internet are as risky as loans can get.

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sorry for your loss. you easily trust to give loans, you have been a victim many times already.
elmanchez has so much troubles in the past where he always encounter some disputes and scam accusation. the previous ones were not really very clear sign but this time it could be it. if a person has kind of brush with scams, you might wanna wait til he regains trust from other users.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 25, 2020, 01:41:57 PM

The joke’s on him, hopefully he spends it on hookers & cocaine & dies of a heart attack or gets AIDS.

How about getting Corona and listen to Trump for a whole night LOL

Sorry about the jokes, @DireWolfM14 this no collateral lending business is very risky now a days. I hope you move on and find few good clients to recover your lose in the business.

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Sorry about this buddy, seems like a real lowlife, imagining being so desperately poor you’re willing to scam & lose your account over that much money, fucking loser. The joke’s on him, hopefully he spends it on hookers & cocaine & dies of a heart attack or gets AIDS.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 25, 2020, 01:17:05 PM

Sorry to hear that bro! Flag supported and left a negative feedback. This is unacceptable. No one can recover your lose and I hope this is not a big amount for you.

No kids are going to starve, but any loss is painful nonetheless. Unfortunately my lending activities are at a net negative as a result of one big loss, and now this one just makes it even harder to recover.

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Sorry to hear that bro! Flag supported and left a negative feedback. This is unacceptable. No one can recover your lose and I hope this is not a big amount for you.

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on July 25, 2020, 01:12:42 PM

At this point I am of the belief that elmanchez has no intention of paying back the loans.

His account has no reputation left so most possibly he is not coming back anymore.

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What happened::

On June 2, 2020 I gave elmanchez a loan for 0.3 ETH.
On June 3, 2020 I gave him another loan for 0.043 BTC.

On June 20 I received a message from elmanchez through telegram informing me that he will pay back the loans in time. I have not communicated directly to him since then. Shortly after that elmanchez deleted the telegram account he used in our communications.

Since then, the user account "elmanchez" has been associated with a banned user, suspected of attempting to use a banned account to feign trust as an established member, and suspected of selling Bitcointalk.org accounts. After this revelation, on July 20, 2020 I sent elmanchez a personal message here on the forum asking him for clarification about the loans. To this date I have not received a reply, and yet I believe he has been active using other accounts.

At this point I am of the belief that elmanchez has no intention of paying back the loans.

Scammers Profile Link:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elmanchez-2553198

Reference Link:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54551013
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54556648
[Archive]

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54835208

Amount Scammed:

0.3 ETH
0.043 BTC

Payment Method & Proof of Payment:

ETH:
0x2e22b87af9f9131ad16630c23e560872fd2e527b3d85578dded046a8917da33e

BTC:
ddb42b114ced565508b5e6b8fc576c113005314542dcafcde68193716089606f
7868574e8f998cde58d6d0773b6b371fba3d2a9a4036edd31bec99598a7adcb3

PM/Chat Logs:

Additional Notes:

Type 3 Flag link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2163

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