Topic: EMEKA OKOLI using someone elses work - please permaban - page 2. (Read 1016 times)

You created those videos after someone else published them https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53325981 therefore you used their voice.

How do you explain different voices in video? Did You create videos using your different voice or something?

It is not plagiarism if you create video meme and then you create another video meme and change few words. You can't plagiarise yourself.

EMEKA OKOLI said that they created both videos so you can't tag them because someone posted their video, unless you have proof that EMEKA OKOLI's video is created by someone else and they are presenting it as their own.

My logic tells me they are alt accounts so if that is the case it is not plagiarism, if they are friends and friend tried to claim reward for himself then it is plagiarism, if friend posted video for EMEKA OKOLI then it is not plagiarism.

I just don't see here case of someone presenting someone else's work as their own. Even if it is plagiarism, why would you tag person who created video and not tag person who took that video? Doesn't make much sense. Whole topic and tag was about that video.

Problem with evidence is that they sometimes disappear. Whoever reads thread will see that something was there, some excuses but not really solid evidence.

Circumstantial evidence. Of course, I have my own opinion about this account  

That's not issue at all here, taking some clip from movie, nor I ever claimed that. Exactly the same captions, word for word (just changed names) were the issue.

First issue is explained in the first post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53311888
EMEKA OKOLI claims that he is behind both of those videos.

Ok, even if that is true, I found another issue, that is explained in this post
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53325981
In that post it is obvious that he took someone else's voiceovers, combined with his video and shared on his YouTube channel. And he did that for 2 separate bounties, Athero and KitToken. Plagiarism, therefore I tagged him. After my discoveries, he deleted those videos from his channel.

There are few other connections with some previously tagged accounts for merit abuse and bounty cheating, and that is explained in this post
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53367552

May I step in for a second and ask if someone uses bunker scene from movie Downfall, would anyone look at it as a plagiarism? I don't think so.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3SsM1RYdI4  

Youtube is full of similar examples, it is just like a video meme, it might be the same case here.

Does the presumption of innocence not work here?

I had 2 red trusts. A man deleted 1 red trust because he did not find evidence that I was a cheater. And the second person does not want to remove the red trust because he has started all this and it is not convenient for him to step back. If we went to court with this, then Rikafip could not prove that I was cheating.

You need to open a topic here in the reputation section bring out all the details and ask from the community to give you an opinion about your red trust.

but I don't think you have a great chance. You have not proved anything against these accusations, except your words.
You accuse freelancers because of plagiarism from which you buy a video, we already hear this explanation many times. Also, you publish them here, you portrayed him as your own, so it is your responsibility if they are plagiarised. Deleting and cleaning your YT channel it looks like you're hiding something

I explained everything in this post, i won't repeat myself all over again
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53325981



Let's check you alt account yakin102 that you allegedly gave to your friend. That account has an interesting merit history.


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First you received 10 merits from Embat that made you Member. What is interesting about Embat  is that he has been already tagged by 2 members  for merit abuse and cheating bounty campaign with alts.
After that, you gave 5 merits to yan.s.var. That account is alt of previously banned member and is waiting to be banned as well, with few other accounts connected . I reported ban evasion here. It is not a surprise that Embat gave merit to few of those accounts as well.

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Now let's check that Athero bounty videos. Those were submitted by Somare.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LQIsywX5Hs_Ssjulihq4pTiU8CHRR4y5rwH6Ev5-Ccc/edit#gid=1268678379

This is the address used for that submissions
0x55a66E0fD88De991f804cB07f2E66c09FB9D7a2c


This address has been used by Visesrion as well.

Somare used same telegram username in one bounty

Interesting thing about Visesrion is that he has been involved with previously mentioned Embat, and is also tagged for merit  and bounty abuse.


So no, i don't trust you, and my feedback stays.

And where can I write to the arbitrator? What should I do if a person does not want to delete a red trust? Who will judge us?

Emeka did mention that he/she paid freelancers to create a video for him/her then submitted them for bounties. The freelancers were probably responsible for the plagiarism.

It's a case similar to those projects with plagiarized whitepapers. They also claim they hired someone else to write for them.

I didn’t take anything from other videos. why are you kidding? I am an honest person

No, red trust stays. You took parts of someone else's videos  and used for your own, and then submitted for bounty.  You cheated before, so i don't trust you  that you won't do it again in the future.

I ask you to remove the red trust

I write to you 3 times that the video did not. I made only the last video for the contest. And I have no idea about "voicovers" and who put it where.

You took someone else's voicovers and added them to your videos, and then submitted for bounty. That is plagiarism, plain and simple.

I deleted the video because they turned out to be a scam. I have been waiting for payments for a year but haven’t received them. And these videos were made for me by different freelancers that I paid.

I ask you to remove the negative trust. Thank you for taking the time to clear this forum of bad people. In the future I will be more serious about these matters and not make mistakes.

Quote for reference.

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I'm going to change my negative feedback to neutral until we look at all the aspects of this accusation.
I am following this thread.

You do have a proof , you actually proved that they are the same person, he admitted that himself to be more accurate.


and here


I edited my first post, so  I will quote myself again

Ok, lets say, for the sake of argument, that i don't have proof strong enough for this EMEKA OKOLI-yakin102 thing, but please check this post
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53325981

There i showed undeniable fact (and proofs) that EMEKA KOLIE stole  voicovers and used them for his videos. He did it for  aleast  3 different videos (Athero and KitKat). Guess what happened after i showed that? He deleted those videos.


Here is EMEKA KOLIE YouTube channel this morning



And look at it now, he deleted all those incriminating videos

You need to prove that EMEKA OKOLI stole the video/content from someone else for this to be considered plagiarism ,  and for this to work you need yakin102  to actually complain and say  " EMEKA OKOLI stole my work" which is not going to happen because apparently EMEKA OKOLI is yakin102 , and yakin102 is EMEKA OKOLI  .

You might argue that yakin102 doesn't have to do that , because EMEKA OKOLI could have used the work of Steven Spielberg and Steven Spielberg wouldn't come here to complain , that makes sense, but the moment EMEKA OKOLI posts here using his "friend" account yakin102 and says that was his own work, this case is closed as far as plagiarism/ban is concerned.

as for tagging the user for having an alt or using the same video twice, it's hard to judge , I don't tag alts unless they try to scam , if this user have not participated in the same contest using two different accounts , I don't think a negative is deserved, but hey that is just me, I am sure many others will have a different opinion.

Sorry to let you down, you did a great job out there, I have no doubt that EMEKA OKOLI is yakin102 and he is the typical shitposter , bounty/contest hunter which the forum would do much better without, but really, you can't make this a perfect place, this isn't a perfect world after all.

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I forgot to comment about this post > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53325981  

it's quite interesting, assuming those are plagiarized / stolen , I think you should report them to Youtube so that they ban his account or delete those videos or whatever they do for these kind of cases , ,I don't think "mistakes" made outside the forum are judged by the mods here, but you can try to take this case to meta and see what the mods have to say.

I didn’t do the last videos myself, I ordered them from people on freelance and paid them $ 10 for 1 video. And the last video I myself did for many hours; I spent it invented a script and cut the frames from the film. You judge me for the latest videos and everything was honest there.

And I can take the account from a friend back if it is necessary for you to delete me the red trust. I do not need to be embarrassed because the rules of the forum are not forbidden to manage multiple accounts. or am I wrong?