Topic: Employment is over rated (build your own empire). (Read 326 times)

Could be true.

But I think a large amount of the stories that we hear about, such as Steve Jobs starting apple from his garage or Zuckerberg starting facebook as a private media venture at Harvard (I think)

These are smart people that were going to do well regardless of their company. They had the brains to be able to do well, they just took it to the next level with owning a large amount of shares of a company that 'took off'

 The forbes richest men on the planet list composed of self made entrepreneur or business men. For too long people around the world more in developing countries depends on regular employment for survival.
Don't get me wrong or misinterpreted there is nothing wrong work round the clock for another person or government helping them build their dream's while you have not set yours rolling but its more annoying to see individuals when jobs are not available continuing there search without trying to look for alternative to means of surviving.
  
   Why should you prefer building your dreams to employment.
1. Like I just earlier said countries can have poor rate of employment no country is bigger than this Even the powerful countries and some times staffs can be cut out throwing them into the unemployment line and the whole cycle of job hunt begins
2. Made to retire at a certain age: as life goes on so does responsibilities and when the source of income is Short lived no matter how much you where initially earning can still affect your survival.
3. Controlled and in some cases over used: developed countries has set up measures to protect employees from silly employer's but in developing counties employers take advantage of their workers, like sexual harassment, over labour, low pays
There are other disadvantages of solely depending on employment.

Self employment has been undervalued and over looked every one wants salary seeing building an idea from the scratch as strenuous
Skill acquisition and self employment aids in alleviating poverty. The real deal is fewer people lack the interest to think,learn and build.

MLM sellers are the worst. They're usually the greediest of people who only care about profit and will push whatever crap they're selling on to you because their business depends on it. Most people won't get rich from this sort or marketing but there is money to be made from it, but it's done in such a sleazy desperate way and they try take others down with them by selling the bullshit dream they're hoping to achieve but as long as they get your money then that's all they care about. 

 The forbes richest men on the planet list composed of self made entrepreneur or business men. For too long people around the world more in developing countries depends on regular employment for survival.
Don't get me wrong or misinterpreted there is nothing wrong work round the clock for another person or government helping them build their dream's while you have not set yours rolling but its more annoying to see individuals when jobs are not available continuing there search without trying to look for alternative to means of surviving.
  
   Why should you prefer building your dreams to employment.
1. Like I just earlier said countries can have poor rate of employment no country is bigger than this Even the powerful countries and some times staffs can be cut out throwing them into the unemployment line and the whole cycle of job hunt begins
2. Made to retire at a certain age: as life goes on so does responsibilities and when the source of income is Short lived no matter how much you where initially earning can still affect your survival.
3. Controlled and in some cases over used: developed countries has set up measures to protect employees from silly employer's but in developing counties employers take advantage of their workers, like sexual harassment, over labour, low pays
There are other disadvantages of solely depending on employment.

Self employment has been undervalued and over looked every one wants salary seeing building an idea from the scratch as strenuous
Skill acquisition and self employment aids in alleviating poverty. The real deal is fewer people lack the interest to think,learn and build.

MLM sellers are the worst. They're usually the greediest of people who only care about profit and will push whatever crap they're selling on to you because their business depends on it. Most people won't get rich from this sort or marketing but there is money to be made from it, but it's done in such a sleazy desperate way and they try take others down with them by selling the bullshit dream they're hoping to achieve but as long as they get your money then that's all they care about.

Well yes. But what I am getting to is that we will always look at the people who flourished through being an entrepreneur and we'll never look at the countless other people who have failed trying to become the next Zuckerberg.

I'm not taking a shot at you at all, as I think it is great (and vital) that we have people starting their own businesses and trying to innovate. Though we shouldn't force everyone down this path.

People like to often cite stories like Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg as an example that anyone can do it.  They were both born rich with connections.  Jeff's parents gave him a 300k loan to help start Amazon.  How many people have that option available to them? not many

But lets be real : This sort of thing is not for everyone. Plus, when you're saying that the reason that the vast majority of people become uber wealthy is due to the fact that they've started their own companies -- that's true, but it doesn't look at everything.

Do you know the amount of people who try to start their own company and fail and lose their savings, their homes, their retirements, and so on and so forth. For every single Bill Gates and Zuckerberg in the world there is 1 million people who lost it all trying to become them.

No one ever went broke working day in and day out -- but there have been many going broke trying to to start their own thing.

Not familiar with that 3rd one. Is that one where you recruit people and you get paid for doing so and then they do the same?

Survivorship bias is a nasty thing, we get these success stories shown to us constantly in the media and we never hear about the failures.  It has everyone thinking they can start the next Facebook or something.

Also, I hate using the term "self made". No one on this planet is self made.  Society has created a system and you always have to rely on other people for something.

But lets be real : This sort of thing is not for everyone. Plus, when you're saying that the reason that the vast majority of people become uber wealthy is due to the fact that they've started their own companies -- that's true, but it doesn't look at everything.

Do you know the amount of people who try to start their own company and fail and lose their savings, their homes, their retirements, and so on and so forth. For every single Bill Gates and Zuckerberg in the world there is 1 million people who lost it all trying to become them.

No one ever went broke working day in and day out -- but there have been many going broke trying to to start their own thing.

Yes we should get more and more people into becoming entrepreneurs -- but not everyone can be the boss.

There are different types of self employment imo.

1. Business owners
2. Freelancers
3. Mlm partakers

The issue with self employment being overlooked is thst too many people are on the base of an mlm pyramid and only earning a bit every month that isn't much.

Business owners (including innovators) do quite well but they generally require other cogs in the machine and need workers. Most people don't see a point in saving money and trying to move 9n as they're happy where they are.

Freelancers are probably my favourite type of people who are generally skilled enough to take on other people's jobs. But sometimes you get freelancers that do very little (and some do too much that they can't keep up with the load they have to do to keep up their reputation).

It should still be for everyone who dreamed of. You are right that in reality most persons who tries to build there own empire are broke. I myself is one of that right now. I am trying to build my own business from scratch having zero budget. I am only getting  slight amount from here and from doing sideline freelancing jobs locally. It is pretty hard for me because I am still young having only a few years of experience. Doing all the stuffs, Making a logo for my branding, UI/UX designs, been studying programming languages for awhile specifically JS Angular Framework for my front end and Node.js for the backend part. I might fail but atleast I tried.

However I  am still very determined to continue doing this because I know for a fact that I am happy doing it even if It is still not yet finished and I am currently not earning even a single penny from it. If I can no longer put a food on my plate thats the time that I might "Pause" this for awhile and find some stable job but then I am surely going back.

I am the type of guy before who doesn't care about dreaming of making a living doing things that i loved which is online gaming. After I got sick tho, I realized that I am not happy with my job and I am too tired dealing with my co employees and employer. Thats the time where you will realize that it is still never too late to do it.

A once philosopher said
"One of the biggest regrets of a dying person is not about the things he have done but those things that he never did".

But lets be real : This sort of thing is not for everyone. Plus, when you're saying that the reason that the vast majority of people become uber wealthy is due to the fact that they've started their own companies -- that's true, but it doesn't look at everything.

I think it's not only about your abilities, but also about your initial capital. The most party of those "self made entrepreneurs" were millionaires from the very beginning. Reading stories of their lives you can see that they are almost never successful with their first project. Mostly it goes like this. They start a company, lose $1 million, start another one and lose another million and so on. Then, after several attempts, they eventually succeed. Most of us simply can't afford this kind of entrepreneurship, and that's why I think that working for a good paying company is much better than starting your own business.

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Yes we should get more and more people into becoming entrepreneurs -- but not everyone can be the boss.

 The forbes richest men on the planet list composed of self made entrepreneur or business men.

 The forbes richest men on the planet list composed of self made entrepreneur or business men. For too long people around the world more in developing countries depends on regular employment for survival.
Don't get me wrong or misinterpreted there is nothing wrong work round the clock for another person or government helping them build their dream's while you have not set yours rolling but its more annoying to see individuals when jobs are not available continuing there search without trying to look for alternative to means of surviving.
  
   Why should you prefer building your dreams to employment.
1. Like I just earlier said countries can have poor rate of employment no country is bigger than this Even the powerful countries and some times staffs can be cut out throwing them into the unemployment line and the whole cycle of job hunt begins
2. Made to retire at a certain age: as life goes on so does responsibilities and when the source of income is Short lived no matter how much you where initially earning can still affect your survival.
3. Controlled and in some cases over used: developed countries has set up measures to protect employees from silly employer's but in developing counties employers take advantage of their workers, like sexual harassment, over labour, low pays
There are other disadvantages of solely depending on employment.

Self employment has been undervalued and over looked every one wants salary seeing building an idea from the scratch as strenuous
Skill acquisition and self employment aids in alleviating poverty. The real deal is fewer people lack the interest to think,learn and build.