Topic: ⚙️ Empyria ⚙️: ~ Comparison of Triangular Arbitrage & AI Trading Bots ~ - page 8. (Read 55384 times)

"Cheapest" bots are the open-source ones, if you do not consider your time to be a price.
Popular open-source bots are:

• Trademinator
• Blackbird
• Gekko
• MarginBot

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Yes, it is possible.
Thank you for information!
I am considering your groups in the next update.

Can you add to the bot description additional web sites and support groups.

I focus currently on C.A.T. only.

I setup a web site:
https://cat.elmit.com

It includes an FAQ, ... In the next days I add a form where you can upload your settings xml file and it will analyze and suggest changes, for the outcome you want.

I got a telegram channel (announcements):
https://t.me/cryptobottips

And a Telegram discussion group:
https://t.me/joinchat/CmyUwhITJOcnAjhCLAu1-g

The group has a bot listening to the discussion, and gives suggestion to trigger words. In the next days, I will tune down the talkative bot.

Well said, @tepiero. Another important viewpoint to consider is the stability of the income. While the bot might make a lambo overnight, it might not. Although you could increase your profit with fine-tuning the settings, it is riskier than having a stable business process that sells your virtual product, like a bot, for a fixed price.

What? The author of the bot releases the bot for a price. So they make money because they've made a product which has value. You know, like everything else in the economy: you create something, it has value, you sell it.

Are there any guys who test the bots strategies??
Do the bots works??
If the strategies really work,why the author release them?
Why do the author keep them for himself??
I really doubt it!

I think, the question is more related to MiningHamster service, which is used by multiple bots, than to CPHP.

As far as I know, MiningHamster will release a new feature in the following days, which lets you export the signals. A sample from such exported signals could be uploaded here and the reliability of the signals would be possible to check in the given exchange's historic records. The advantage of this proving method is being direct.

I consider this to be a transparent and logical response to the discussed question.

As for CPHP. I have made over +50% in the past months (without MH signals). So, the bot itself works. The remaining questions are related to the signaling service and how well the bot adapts to the signals. But we might figure that out in the following days!

I’ve used cryptophp for about two month now, happy with the product very powerful for its price, MH is also a very useful tool that comes in handy when market conditions are right, there were many relatively newer users that were having a problem , I assumed it’s their lack of knowledge in trading, and also I think they thought PHP was a turn on and leave bot, if you want to make money in any thing you have to keep up daily, I assure you crypto and MH are legit, don’t let  a few bad apples ruin the whole tree if that’s a saying, I am very happy with the product and the exceptional customer support provided by billy the administrator, you will be doing  yourself a disfavor if you are not gettting one of the most powerful, beautifully built and very affordable bots out there Happy Collection

Hi.
Just for info, a member of my team (veteran-master) stole my telegram channel and now tell to everyone i'm a scammer.
Veteran was my friend, he help me since the beginning, and suddently ... I tell to everyone i'm a scammer, banned me from my own telegram .. I suspect they are a little conspiracy .
I've never banned a member on telegram  !
Also, you can check on the discord history (or ask people) that Veteran-master have banned 3 user on discord just because they talking about crypto-hopper.
I've sent personally  a message to these members with my apologies, i'm ok to speak about other bot on my channel, no problem.


Please ignore the telegram, is whitout my control since one week now, please come to discord and write your message on public channel, ~400 users will see your message, and you'll see, you'll never be banned because i think everyone is free to make an opinion and share it .

 Remember, don't trust random people on internet, don't trust me, make your own opinion.

They are no scam, i'm here to answer to your question if you have a doubt, please ask your question and it will be a pleasure to reply

One more info: Mining hamster is just an addon, if you think it is a scam, please stop using it on crypto-php bot , and use all other strategie/function i've made since 6 months now, more infos : https://www.crypto-php.com/forum/index.php?/forum/3-news-annoucement/

Edit:Also, the website is registred with my own name (crypto-php.com). Also, some user have my personnal cellular number , so , it is the good way to scam people ? Mmhh , note sure
I'm 100% legit, please stop telling I am a scammer (or telling i working with MH to scaming people, it's the same) , I think @Codex know i'm a legit user because she is one of my first customers . You can read the little review by Codex here : https://www.crypto-php.com/forum/index.php?/topic/132-crypto-php-everything-you-need-to-start-trading/ or in this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23374714

Edit2 : If you think i'm a scammer, please check the thread of the Mining hamster beta on my website , you'll see all the hard work i've made on this integration .

Edit3: Also to everyone, please remember, i'm ALONE on this project .
I dev the bot at the same time i reply on discord and on the support of my website, this take all my time, currently the new update is on the way, you can find all info about this update on my website (forum) if you want, "Bot" section . You'll see all the new features related to this new update, i work on it since 1 month .. This will be the biggest update since the beginning .

cheapest/open source best trading bot out there?

I've never spoken a word to you, or typed a single message in the telegram channel, so I have no idea what you're talking about. You still aren't being transparent with your statistics, whatsoever.

You do not show the "Maximum possible profit" because the bots regularly buy over your sell/high price.

I have provided plenty of proof, why do you say I haven't?

It's just more of the same every time you respond, and still no clear answers.

Has anyone tested MH on cryptohopper? I'm curious if it even works whatsoever there, but I'm not about to pay for it again.

hey guys, which is the cheapest/open source best trading bot out there?

Ok here are a lot of allegations, partly for personal reasons, partly because of incomprehension or because you have misunderstood.
You only talk about your personal experience, which does not correspond to the majority at all, because we get good feedback every day.
I still do not know why you doubt the statistics, the allegations have been refuted and presented with various database exports that they agree.

We also did not ban anyone, because we do not have a general telegram channel at first, and certainly not the right to ban anyone.
Your allegations of the former moderator were invalidated, because this moderator has lost money due to wrong attitudes, a risky investment with too much money, wrong stop loss settings or whatever!

This former moderator had personal reasons, moreover, also deleted the owner of the channel in order to spread massive lies here. This user has now been deprived of all rights.
Therefore, please inquire in advance and learn the background before making any allegations.

That we show the maximum possible profit is understandable and it is common practice in these services. These profits are also possible if the personal settings have been optimized so that they are also achievable.
If you are in a baerish market, everyone should reduce their profit targets and adjust their stop loss settings if necessary! MH and the bot give the user a lot of optimization settings. If you ignore all this and do not use it, then you must not be surprised if you make small profit or loss.

In the end ... do not talk about anything you have heard anywhere but refer to facts.
We are transparent and the results are based on facts.
But if you deny this and tell lies, then please prove it. That would be fair to all.

This user has also been confirmed by several other users that his suspicions are unfounded. Nevertheless, this thinks of a conspiracy or whatever. There are people who are suspicious of everything and everyone and just want to be heard, maybe because they have no one else to communicate. We do not know it! The fact is that this acts for personal emotional reasons and has no proof of his allegations.

The kind of user who says the sky is yellow, even though it shows that this is blue.
The bot and Signals are only the tools. Its up to you what you are doing with it. And dont forget that all depends on the market situation, believe it or not! 

You can also read some important notes that everyone should consider when trading with crypto.
if you have not the knowledge or the patient, then not the service is the reason.. its up to you! Dont forget!
https://www.mininghamster.com/faq/tactics/

If you do not like our service, then you are free not to use it!

Thank you

I've made the same assumption about MiningHamster. They just only show the Max price so it never gets "red". You can say the marketing is blinding your eyes.
The accusation that they work together... can be..but i wouldn't bet my money on it. (lets be honest, you never know who works with others).

But:
The bot is solid and has potential, but its a "beta". The developer is answering to my questions. But he is alone, so development speed is "slow".

so kick the signal service, DYOR, and work with Whitelists/Blacklists...

I forgot to mention: In customer polling, I have yet to hear from a SINGLE user of the bot who was able to achieve over 4% profits per month. While still not a loss, it's almost certainly worse than simple buying and holding, while Mininghamster shows gains of over 4% possible several -- sometimes dozens -- of times per day.

I tried to include as much solid evidence as possible. Believe me there are many more screenshots of examples.

Outside of the MH signals, it is a VERY basic bot -- it buy random coins (or your own signal based on volume only) and holds in hopes of profit. It functions in that regard. However the bot integration is explained away, the fact remains that MiningHamster is intentionally reporting false numbers to appear to be a much more effective signaler than in actuality, and at the absolute least, that needs to be addressed.

Thank you for providing evidence, @catorparrot! I was sorry to hear the same claims elsewhere, too. Unfortunately, evidence was not shown until your efforts. I think, it is a good direction to bring all potential evidence into one place and communicate. I will not delete it  

I will appreciate if @CRYPTO-PHP owner and @MiningHamster owner, too, come here and provide their explanations, as well as, if exists, counter-evidence. I am hopeful that we can make the truth clear, but if not, I could include the different evidence in the thread, at least.

In my personal experience, CPHP is working as expected, but I use own strategies, which do not include MiningHamster signals.

Second this question.

Who here found consistent success arb trading using bots?

Any tips would be greatly appreciated

WHY HASN'T ANYONE NOTICED THUS FAR??
Many did, but many had their comments scrubbed from the forums. However, although this happens with the VAST majority of signals, SOME SIGNALS ARE STILL PROFITABLE. I am not sure if this is by design to curb suspicions or what, but with VERY conservative settings, looking to make VERY small gains, it is still possible to turn out 1-2%/day. This is a far cry from the +/-100% claimed from the mininghamster signal stats, though.

Regardless, until the Crypto-PHP and/or Mininghamster team manage to give a sensible, understandable explanation other than blaming nonexistent user settings or "the market" (if the market is to blame, then the stats on the MH site should reflect this), I'm going to have to advise everyone DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A BOT THAT SERVES ONLY TO LEAVE YOU HOLDING DOZENS OF BAGS ON THE WRONG END OF MININGHAMSTER'S PUMPS!!

Profit Trailer is one trading bot, i'm finding fascinating as i learn more on it