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Project: RED Energy Trading Platform by EU Provider
Project has more or less the same idea as other energy based projects. It is based in Romania, which they praudly states as in EU and has some mysterous EUenergy company support which i couldnt find.
What are your thoughts on this project?
On first sight i think that uses good idea , big dreams but dont think that they are realistic.
Topic: Energy Based Projects (Read 2407 times)
Check out https://powerledger.io/ if you haven't already. Looks very interesting.
Power-Ledger is tight, just saw them in Perth!
If you are interested in energy related projects you should really check out Windcoin. Its in early stage still and the distribution is almost done (airdrop #4 this saturday) but its a project with great future. This could be the one gem between all the shitcoins that are being airdropped. They choose the airdrop method for a fair distribution and because they are sick of money grabbing ICO's. Whitepaper is coming really soon and then we will see what value proposition this project offers to us. So far I am heavily impressed by this project.
Look at POWR and how those tokens moved. The large investors that will move into Prosume energy will make an absolute fortune.
Better team, better set up - Powerledger have a market cap of 240m USD currently.
Prosume Energy is the chance of a lifetime.
Better team, better set up - Powerledger have a market cap of 240m USD currently.
Prosume Energy is the chance of a lifetime.
It looks that you are saying that if there is company that controls the grid than there is no possibility of decentralisation? Who will sustain the grid in your ideal decentralisation model?
I meant to say that giving several companies the possibility to use the grid is step in right direction and is decentralisation compared to monopoly. And if one of these companies would be willing to start experimenting with blockchain and using as you say " freelance generators" and kept growing at one point the company would be becoming almost exclusively just a sustainer of system.
I do not see that person that started this thread and also the discussion going solely about centralisation vs decentralisation, It seems more that it is about quality energy projects, which could positively change the energy market using blockchain.
I don't think that a decentralized grid would work specifically for that reason, but this thread is about using fully decentralized systems to manage the grid (something a lot of projects seem to be focused on lately); and if you look back at my posts in this thread you'll see that I'm stating that this is not possible nowadays because the companies control the grid (and probably always will, although that isn't inherently bad).I meant to say that giving several companies the possibility to use the grid is step in right direction and is decentralisation compared to monopoly. And if one of these companies would be willing to start experimenting with blockchain and using as you say " freelance generators" and kept growing at one point the company would be becoming almost exclusively just a sustainer of system.
I do not see that person that started this thread and also the discussion going solely about centralisation vs decentralisation, It seems more that it is about quality energy projects, which could positively change the energy market using blockchain.
Also, looking back at my last reply I hope I didn't come across as being rude (it's always hard tell when expressing via text).
I like the look of 4New which is green friendly by converting waste to energy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23622544
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23622544
I believe this area is where the real upside is possible going forward - massive market, natural integration of crypto and trading is obvious. Which projects do you think one should have a look at ?
I agree with you and the energy sector based on blockchain technology will definetely face a big growth in the very near future.
So there are two projects in my opinion that you should keep an eye on : powerledger.io and wepower.network
I have personally invested in PowerLedger on the ico stage and have already made a good profit
I'm not sure about this because central and big profit companies would oppose blockchain based energy projects. Suncontract project is the first that comes to my mind. There was also another hydrominer project in the forum, I remember.
Very important is the usage of energy why many people do samo research and project about energy.
Still as I keep saying: While you can sell electricity to the grid in most countries, you’re effectively becoming a freelance power generator for the power company; you’d still be unable to implant one of these systems since it’s not your grid, and this thread was about creating a decentralized grid using one of the systems being developed for just that.
Its not true. Actually the situation now in EU at least in some EU countries is that GRID is being used by multiple companies. They sell their energy to customers and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!
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Its not true. ... and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!
You say it's not true, and then you precede to say it is true and that it's necessary. Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant and/or the topic of this thread?It looks that you are saying that if there is company that controls the grid than there is no possibility of decentralisation? Who will sustain the grid in your ideal decentralisation model?
I meant to say that giving several companies the possibility to use the grid is step in right direction and is decentralisation compared to monopoly. And if one of these companies would be willing to start experimenting with blockchain and using as you say " freelance generators" and kept growing at one point the company would be becoming almost exclusively just a sustainer of system.
I do not see that person that started this thread and also the discussion going solely about centralisation vs decentralisation, It seems more that it is about quality energy projects, which could positively change the energy market using blockchain.
I believe this area is where the real upside is possible going forward - massive market, natural integration of crypto and trading is obvious. Which projects do you think one should have a look at ?
I agree with you and the energy sector based on blockchain technology will definetely face a big growth in the very near future.
So there are two projects in my opinion that you should keep an eye on : powerledger.io and wepower.network
I have personally invested in PowerLedger on the ico stage and have already made a good profit
Still as I keep saying: While you can sell electricity to the grid in most countries, you’re effectively becoming a freelance power generator for the power company; you’d still be unable to implant one of these systems since it’s not your grid, and this thread was about creating a decentralized grid using one of the systems being developed for just that.
Its not true. Actually the situation now in EU at least in some EU countries is that GRID is being used by multiple companies. They sell their energy to customers and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!
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Its not true. ... and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!
You say it's not true, and then you precede to say it is true and that it's necessary. Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant and/or the topic of this thread?
There is this one. https://4new.co.uk/
Do anyone have some information about it?
For me it seems as Scam, since the wallet does not have funds even close to the total they are claiming that they have.
Do anyone have some information about it?
For me it seems as Scam, since the wallet does not have funds even close to the total they are claiming that they have.
Still as I keep saying: While you can sell electricity to the grid in most countries, you’re effectively becoming a freelance power generator for the power company; you’d still be unable to implant one of these systems since it’s not your grid, and this thread was about creating a decentralized grid using one of the systems being developed for just that.
Its not true. Actually the situation now in EU at least in some EU countries is that GRID is being used by multiple companies. They sell their energy to customers and yes they pay some amount to grid company but the amount is actually very small. But this is normal, someone has to sustain the grid, we need it!
In effect solar companies are already doing 1 element of this. Mass adoption is the hard part, but if you can feasibly get a useable & affordable service to consumers. I like the idea that anyone could say, throw some panels on their roof & in effect mine.
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But, then again I cannot predict the future and it could very well happen; I just feel like it’s to big of a feat at the moment.
Check out ElectricChain, which is closely tied to SolarCoin too, used as an incitative towards switching to solar energy. It can potentially help retail consumers save 2-3 years of equipment reimbursement. The private sector is in need of such initiative and taking back the control of it’s own future now that most state’s financial aids are cut back versus what they were some years ago.
Current view on Solar with decentralized microgrids makes it a perfect goal for a crypto application. However, the papers I read mostly didn't cover the most important part where the blockchain meets the electrical grid. This is where centralization starts because there is always the utility company that is managing the meters and that's where it quickly degrades to an old trusted party approach.
I believe this area is where the real upside is possible going forward - massive market, natural integration of crypto and trading is obvious. Which projects do you think one should have a look at ?
There are a few energy-based projects, namely Pylon Network, Suncontract, WePower, Greeneum, though it's hard to talk about its investment potential, including risks, as they are relatively newly established.
this is my favorite category despite there are few energy blockchain projects available at the moment. I like wepower more in those projects as it is more like green energy project.
I think now in the near future will be the implementation of IT projects for mass decentralization, then the market will develop into other industries
I hate to sound negative, but I will believe it when I see it.You can’t have a decentralized power plant unless the whole thing was run by robots controlled by some sort of AI, and in that case I feel there would be plenty of room for bad things to happen.
I believe the energy market will be massively changed through the implications of so many customers becoming prosumers instead of remaining consumers - this is part of the large scale revolution taking place in energy - furthermore, the massive utilities are aware of this change and embracing instead of fighting it, with pilot projects with the real entities such as Prosume Energy.
That means that there is an immediate head start and inclusion, and then it will boom as more and more people join - then people are not only making their own energy, also selling, making money, decreasing energy cost and waste.
All of this based on blockchain and decentralisation.
It is the chance of a lifetime - forget all the wannabe energy "projects" that have only slapped blockchain on existing risk models, and go for the real revolutionary future that has already started. There is real upside.
Prosume is the first and clearly the one with the most upside.
https://prosume.io
But, then again I cannot predict the future and it could very well happen; I just feel like it’s to big of a feat at the moment.
Depends on country,Garmany is good example of support small energy producents,thay are buying energy from small producentss,there is thousends of them in Germany,in Autralia people can share sell his solar power to others,it is even good from security point view
Hi, good question. even i am interested in such projects.
i see there are a lot of answers and discussion. It would be nice of you to edit and summarize things people said on the first post so that the discussion can go further and is not redundant
Thankyou
i see there are a lot of answers and discussion. It would be nice of you to edit and summarize things people said on the first post so that the discussion can go further and is not redundant
Thankyou
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