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Topic: Enhancing the security of this forum by integrating two factor authentication. - page 2. (Read 10250 times)

sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
aka 7Strykes
Yes, please add 2FA! But how would OpenID be connected to that? I'm usually just annoyed by sites that want to rely on OpenID or Google accounts and not have their own account credentials. Separate credentials + 2FA for each site is much better and simpler IMO.

If we used OpenID as a 2FA method, it would be separate from Google Authenticator.
donator
Activity: 1419
Merit: 1015
I can't imagine what would happen if my account were compromised.

Wait, you mean that's wasn't your address I sent 100 BTC to when you asked for it earlier today?

EDIT: Sorry, I probably shouldn't leave this without the obvious /sarcasm tag. I'm not going to lie, though, I'm dreading the day someone posts something like this to me. I would recommend anyone trading on here use OTC or phone or email to like double-verify, regardless of mod, VIP, donator, etc.
legendary
Activity: 1018
Merit: 1000
I get a lot of inquiries via the pm system of this forum and as with others if my account is compromised it could hurts a group of people who trust me enough to do business with me. Besides the reputation wreck which can in a way be healed (but never in full) by asking the admin to show that the ip's were not from my regular access points, what prevents the attacker from using a host within my isp ip range.

If im hacked other people would be hurt.

I've implemented measures like using a specific email to confirm they are talking to me. But human error based on trust can always happen.

Please consider 2FA auth protocol for this forum.

Vite
sr. member
Activity: 657
Merit: 250
Yes, please add 2FA! But how would OpenID be connected to that? I'm usually just annoyed by sites that want to rely on OpenID or Google accounts and not have their own account credentials. Separate credentials + 2FA for each site is much better and simpler IMO.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
aka 7Strykes
2FA authentication would be something nice to have. Some users have been saying a virus has hijacked their computer and have promoted YAC. Probably originating from the pre-compiled miner code. 2FA would prevent passwords from being pulled and being useful.
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
Optional 2FA is practically a requirement these days.

Huzzah!

I understand that using the words 'optional', 'practically', and 'requirement' in the same sentence may disconcert some of the more pedantic readers and I apologize.

All I am saying is that passwords are not secure and 2FA just makes sense.
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
Optional 2FA is practically a requirement these days.

Huzzah!
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1072
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
Fancy authentication options should be provided via OpenID support. It doesn't seem easy to add OpenID support to SMF, though.

I have implemented OpenID for CIYAM Open (although not publicly yet but it has been thoroughly tested) and it wasn't that hard so if you have any questions feel free to PM me.

I did use "mod_auth" for Apache though so I guess that might make things more tricky since you moved away from Apache (is there an equivalent for nginx?).
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1226
Away on an extended break
Please, I want this feature goddamnit.  Sad
I can't imagine what would happen if my account were compromised. This is about the last non-trivial site that I don't have 2FA on, and yet it has the most potential of causing damage to me and everyone.
administrator
Activity: 5166
Merit: 12850
Fancy authentication options should be provided via OpenID support. It doesn't seem easy to add OpenID support to SMF, though.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1065
I'm going to meekly oppose this. Please don't go deeper into mixing the trade with the talk. Please let this forum stay the "talk" forum, an information exchange. Spin off the trade to Bitcointrade.biz or whatever and have as many authentication factors as you can stand.

I know it is hopeless, but I'm going to ask for the return of the plain http:// acccess to this forum, I'd really miss accessing it through the Opera's proxy servers on the low-bandwidth connections.
edd
donator
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1001
I worry that this might give some a false sense of security if dealing with forum members. What if I don't utilize the 2 factor auth and my account gets hacked? Potential victims may feel they have no reason to question suspicious or odd behavior from a previously trustworthy individual, just assuming that the chance of a hack is nil.

I guess a warning should be given when creating an account: "Two factor authentication highly recommended! The reputation you save may be your own."
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
I have to agree, this would be something that would benefit the forum. I know I personality, if someone got my exchange account, I probably be upset. But if someone got into my forum account that would be 100000x worst not only for me, but people in the forum who can be scammed.
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
Given the volume of deals and other economic activity which occurs on this forum compromising an account is a potentially lucrative attack.  Where there is the potential for profits, attacker are soon to follow.  I hope the mods/admins strongly consider upgrading the forum to allow the use of 2FA. Google authentication is one easily implemented option and is based on the open standard RFC6238.  Services like DropBox & LastPass are Google authentication compatible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-factor_authentication
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Authenticator
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6238

One example of a recent compromise:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199747.20

I use 2FA for all exchange accounts (both personal and company) as an added layer of security despite using large unique random passwords for all websites.  An attacker could do good damage to my reputation and result in financial losses for other forum members if they compromised my account identity.

In this modern age simple passwords don't provide the level of security they once did.  One should adopt secure practices like using unique passwords (don't repeat across sites), ensure passwords are not on any known/compromised password list, and ensure passwords are long with sufficient entropy.  However these measures only provide protection against indirect attacks where attacker attempts to brute force (to include dictionary attacks) the password.   With users adopting longer more complex passwords and sites getting better as hashing and salting password lists this attack vector is becoming harder and less common.  The more direct attack is to steal the password through 0-day exploits, malware, or phishing sites.  The only true defense against that is a second factor.
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