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Topic: Envion Scam with locked tokens lasts tooo long - page 3. (Read 688 times)

member
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Hi guys, this threat is for those Envion investors who purchased the tokens during ICO with bitcoin and still have them locked in the envion accounts. The following facts are outrageous:

1) There are at least 10,000 of investors who still can not use their envion tokens.

2) Envion is playing an insolent and deceitful game with bringing their tokens to trade on Hitbtc (Envion is selling the tokens to new investors, while ico investors can NOT trade their locked tokens).

3) Envion support team responds within several days with a template message like "you should be patient and wait for the email with instructions to unlock your tokens" and naive investors think it's a very difficult and high volume process, but in fact Envion continues to grow its capitalization by exclusive trading its tokens as described in #3. And this response is lasting for 6 weeks already.

4) The objective attitude to Envion by a giant number of investors can be read in the comments on Medium (for envion's updates and news) and here in the main thread of Envion ico. I should say the attitude has changed from 95% positive to 30-40% positive... and it is within 1 month only. There are even lots of bounty participant complaints about the tokens they have never received.

5) As of now, many investors are eager to see (during a visit) the real working MMU in Germany, some have written many requests to envion sales to purchase MMU and have never heard back.


So don't you think that Envion is not just one of the biggest ico of 2017, but also a biggest scam? How can we influence envion to unlock our tokens as soon as possible?

this is very bad news, i'm one of bounty participant, to be honest i'm disapointed to their team. because in the beginning i'm very sure this is a very great projet in the future.
newbie
Activity: 107
Merit: 0


I just read this from you. so far envion is a very big ico. even I saw participants of the campaign reach 1000 signatures. this is a record breaker in a campaign that I know.

We are talking about different things. Nobody argues that their ico was impressive but we hope their realization of the project will be as good as predicted, while many details now show their team is not professional and our expectations are in danger.
full member
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I just read this from you. so far envion is a very big ico. even I saw participants of the campaign reach 1000 signatures. this is a record breaker in a campaign that I know.
newbie
Activity: 107
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The problem is that IF it is a scam, then it is an intelligent and polite kind of scam which is closer to determination of low quality and zero potential business project rather than scam. They did KYC and did not allow the US unprofessional investors to participate so SEC has nothing to do with them right now...
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If this is really so, then it seems to me that this is the most expensive scam that was in the crypto currency. They collected more than $ 100,000,000. It seems to me that if it were a scam, then they definitely will be interested in certain people, especially the SEC, which so strongly regulates crypto-currencies.
newbie
Activity: 107
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The whole situation with Envion investment is very poor. The tokens are traded at half price comparing to ICO (while the project is considered to be real and paying dividends, so the token price must not be as weak as shitcoins dramatically falling now), tokens are traded on shit exchanges only, with ICO final amount over $100M they could enter at least 1 reputable exchange, but they have chosen trash exchanges and possibly are NOT accepted by giant major exchanges... Very sad.
full member
Activity: 700
Merit: 105
APESWAP
You can't tag them as scam yet. It's true they're not being straight with their token unlock for Btc investors and until now, they haven't said anything about bounty payouts. And it's very unfair to ICO participants as the unlock process is not that too hard to provide. Just excise patience with them and learn from it too. Participate with ETH in ERC20 tokens ICO to avoid all this drama next time. I am a bounty hunter waiting patiently to be paid.
full member
Activity: 225
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Very often after end ICO company block some of the tokens. I do not know the amount of money you spent. But usually, the more money you invested, the more you got a discount or bonus, the later you get your tokens.
First unlock expensive and then gradually to the cheapest (or bonus).
I think you need to wait.
member
Activity: 420
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I think if they deceive them they will not manage to hide with such money, all the same it was registered in Europe everything, there the laws are tough, I do not think that they wanted problems with the law!
full member
Activity: 280
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LOL. Everyone thought that Envion is a great project at the start but for now, they turn to scam everyone after get a huge amount of money from their investors Smiley. Beside there are a lot of bounty participants also scammed. Smiley. They've worked for months but for now they get nothing and there are no respond from dev team of Envion Smiley. Fuck this shit Smiley
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So someone cries scam and people believe even though they offer no evidence and contradict themselves (10k waiting... not a big volume operation - which is it?).

As i follow this ICO its the credit card purchasers and bounty campaign that have been slow to receive.  Normal KYC completed investors have had their tokens.  As for asking for hardware, they've only just raised funds... some people haven't read the white paper or haven't a clue about investment if they expect delivery of hardware product in such short time.  Roll Eyes

If every ICO that has problems with token distribution is a scam, then they are all scams. 
look at the latest video, where it shows how the finished container is taken from the warehouse. Do you think that the employees of such a project should look like, they are more like a low-wage labor force and it's done to throw dust in your eyes!

newbie
Activity: 110
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They aren't accepting pm's from newbies and tokens still locked and still no reply across any form of communication.

I've got a bad feeling about this.
newbie
Activity: 107
Merit: 0
My tokens are still locked.

I paid with Eth and completed kyc.

I have emailed, twitter, Facebook - no reply. I also cannot access their telegram for some reason Sad

Can Enviin help me please?

Telegram : @Sophiex1998
Eth: 0x8b2b14ef1B26e651874f1b3875C2BAF623259790

Send them PM through this forum, may be you will be able to reach them. Their profile link is  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/envion-1268103
newbie
Activity: 110
Merit: 0
My tokens are still locked.

I paid with Eth and completed kyc.

I have emailed, twitter, Facebook - no reply. I also cannot access their telegram for some reason Sad

Can Enviin help me please?

Telegram : @Sophiex1998
Eth: 0x8b2b14ef1B26e651874f1b3875C2BAF623259790
member
Activity: 560
Merit: 17
Hi guys, this threat is for those Envion investors who purchased the tokens during ICO with bitcoin and still have them locked in the envion accounts. The following facts are outrageous:

1) There are at least 10,000 of investors who still can not use their envion tokens.

2) Envion is playing an insolent and deceitful game with bringing their tokens to trade on Hitbtc (Envion is selling the tokens to new investors, while ico investors can NOT trade their locked tokens).

3) Envion support team responds within several days with a template message like "you should be patient and wait for the email with instructions to unlock your tokens" and naive investors think it's a very difficult and high volume process, but in fact Envion continues to grow its capitalization by exclusive trading its tokens as described in #3. And this response is lasting for 6 weeks already.

4) The objective attitude to Envion by a giant number of investors can be read in the comments on Medium (for envion's updates and news) and here in the main thread of Envion ico. I should say the attitude has changed from 95% positive to 30-40% positive... and it is within 1 month only. There are even lots of bounty participant complaints about the tokens they have never received.

5) As of now, many investors are eager to see (during a visit) the real working MMU in Germany, some have written many requests to envion sales to purchase MMU and have never heard back.


So don't you think that Envion is not just one of the biggest ico of 2017, but also a biggest scam? How can we influence envion to unlock our tokens as soon as possible?

Although investors are in bad spot , i believe that they are not a scam .
This behavior could be explained by the huge success and applicant number which they were not quite ready for.
newbie
Activity: 107
Merit: 0
Envion sent a PIN finally to unlock the tokens.
newbie
Activity: 107
Merit: 0

I am part of the participation in this bounty campaign project and i am pretty sure this is not a scam in fact it is really a big project that i think of this 2018. I've look this project everyday in telegram and this always been the problem of some others people having impatiently. As many time they said by the Laurent the admin of this project is being locked for moment for analysing the KYC application.


Why don't you read the reason of our complaints?Huh All of us have PASSED KYC SUCCESSFULLY, all of us have paid with BITCOIN, so what the fuck our tokens are LOCKED while envion has launched tokens trade on exchanges?Huh
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 102
My tokens are still locked too though kyc passed and paid with bitcoin


I am part of the participation in this bounty campaign project and i am pretty sure this is not a scam in fact it is really a big project that i think of this 2018. I've look this project everyday in telegram and this always been the problem of some others people having impatiently. As many time they said by the Laurent the admin of this project is being locked for moment for analysing the KYC application.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
My tokens are still locked too though kyc passed and paid with bitcoin
newbie
Activity: 107
Merit: 0

A VERY small percentage of BTC purchases who finished KYC are still receiving tokens. Less than 2% left. 


Absolute blatant cynical lie!!! There are TOO MANY investors who bought your tokens with btc and finished KYC successfully and have their tokens locked for almost 2 months now.


Please make sure you are getting our newsletter and watching our video updates.  Responding to accusations of scam is tiresome and unnecessary for the adults in the room who have some patience and understanding of what it means to build a business. 

Hey adults, if you understand what is building a business in a professional manner, then you MUST understand that unlocking all tokens is the FIRST and launching their trding on exchanges is SECOND.


Please make sure you are getting our newsletter and watching our video updates...we need time to build the business and that we will not sacrifice that business to the demands of impatient traders who are not invested in the long-term success of envion. 


BASTARDS!!! I read all of your updates and watched all of your videos and you advertised and stressed attention in each of your updates about the start of tokens trading on exchanges, so WHO IS IMPATIENT about trading the tokens, YOU or US?Huh?

Any wait for tokens will feel insignificant when MMUs start deploying and dividends start flowing.

Oh really? Give us what we have already purchased first!!!
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