Topic: Erosion of merit. How to prevent it. - page 2. (Read 485 times)

I don't think that matters much: on average, this will turn out okay. It's impossible to be objective when it comes to post quality.

I think Theymos has got a really difficult task in selecting merit sources. There is so much subjective influence in the awarding of merits. My dislike of heavy formatting, images, and long unsnipped quotes are examples. As I stated, there is no shortage of sMerits, but there is a shortage of time, and more responsible merit sources would mean that there is more time available for post hunting. I think that a better solution is the removal of the very low value pollution on the boards, and this would allow the existing sources to work more efficiently. Useless necro-bumping is one annoyance and waste of time, and is something that could be prevented without wasting the time of the mods.

I'm confused: you say you're not much experienced in math, but you can do this:
If you can do that, it doesn't take a math genius to figure out:
user1 > user2 > user1 > user2 > user1 > user2 > user1 > user2 > user1 > user2 > user1 > user2 > user1 > user2 > user1 > user2 would lead to 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 1 > if each Merit gets them 1 sMerit too.

The current system, in which each user can earn sMerit to give, based on his own post quality, is beautiful in simplicity. Spammers' sMerit dries up, and the assumption is that users with good posts will also be good judges of other users' posts.

Theymos already said it wouldn't surprise him if a year after introduction we'll have 100-200 Merit sources.

Sorry if you thought that my comment was addressed to you. It was a more general protest about the current problems on the board. I can read your English fairly quickly, and I can understand your points, so obviously the English part doesn't apply to you. The post was made after a frustrating period of hunting for posts to merit, and I apologise if you have taken my general comments personally, I guess that is a reasonable reactions, and I should have put some qualifications in my post.

The images thing is a personal annoyance, and it comes from my belief that this is a serious discussion and education forum. There are some leisure and relaxation boards here, and I think those are the places for such images. I appreciate that my view is not a popular one, and many posters in a variety of forums seem to have large libraries of images to add to threads.

I will not argue with you as well as you are well reputed member on this forum. I didn't complain here. I just discuss the current situation. I didn't post other people idea honestly. I haven't seen this kind of discussion. I have mention on top of my thread. I just post only what I think. If smae think around your mind then what can I do?  Regarding my image posting I have remember that I have post an image to Welsh merit source application. That's I think was not necessary to post. My other thread with image for scam ICO or connected account. I use picture to clarify easily. Regarding my post I always try to prevent spam from me and always try to fight with spammer and scammer. For that reason if I got negetive trust no problem for me. I am not saying that I am 100% pure. May some of my post low quality. But honestly I don't like get idea from other or spamming on forum. Regarding English, million people here from various country. All their native language is English? All the member's here graduate? Yes I am weak in English. For me if some one can explain successfully any thing in English, I have not complain about him. If I will not post on English then how can I improve myself?  If I make post then may be some one will mention my wrong and I can correction myself.

Anyway i respect you always and I will. Your reply is much appreciated for me.

If you find similar idea that posted recently you can give the link. So I will delete my post.

Lets put this myth to bed. The forum is awash with awardable sMerit. This morning I have almost 200  of them to use to reward posters. If I double my usual award to 2 sMerits, that is 100 decent posts that I have to find. Things are gradually improving, but that is probably about 2 days of hard work. Also, remember that those 200 will generate another 200 for the community to award as they are used. Source merits are also replaced 30 days after I award them. I'm just one merit source, and probably not a major one either.

I would be grateful if posters could stop complaining about a great, and essential, system, and looks at their posting. Be honest with yourself - would you give most of your posts any accolades. Are you just re-posting other peoples' ideas, are you just posting extracts from published articles with any comment, can people even understand what you have written. Also there are some bad posting habits - have you included a stupid image that causes people to skip over your comment, have you included a massive redundant quote, so that people can't even see your comment, is your post a useless necro-bump?

Please give the responsible source merits a chance to do their unpaid work. Don't clog up the threads so that decent posts don't get read. Stop creating threads that are repeats of the same tired old comments. Please make good and constructive posts so that Bitcoin Talk can take a leading place in the golden age that is being created at the moment.

And if you know your English is weak, stop posting on the English boards, and work on improving it. If people can't understand you, then you will just end up on ignore, no matter how good the sentiment behind your comments.

May be you are right I am not much experienced in math. But I think you reply before complete my post. On subject you can see . I think I calculate right. It's user calculation. Not from merit source. I will request you for read now. Btw thanks for your reply.

Look Like you are weak in Mathematics. If 1 Merit generate 1 sMerit , Then you can have infinite supply of Merit by Just getting 1 Merit.
A got 1 Merit so he has default 1sMerit.
A decided it to give it to B, Now B has 1 Merit and 1 smerit.
Now both can do to and froth to game the system and in between they can introduce C,D,E and so on.

Edit:  Merit Sources are replenished with sMerits ( sMerits created without getting any Merit) to solve this erosion problem.

Disclaimer: I don't know if another post similar. I haven't seen. If you know reply here I will lock this thread.

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As well we know once merit system was implement then smerit wasn't 1merit=0.5 merit for all member's.
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From above quote we can see that every one didn't receive smerit half of his merit initially. This is one reasone for erosion of merit.
Anyway this is already gone. Nothing we can do. Current merit calculation is 1=0.5 . Now I will calculate up to end user, if I have 1 smerit initially, then I can send it 1 user. Now he have 0.5 smerit. So will try to explain below up to end user.
(User)  :  Me > user1> user2> user3> user4  >  user5>>>
(Smerit): 1  >> 0.5 >   0.25  > 0.125> 0.0625> 0.03125>>>>

In this calculation up to 5th user have 0.0625 smerit.
So in a result day by day merit is erosion. Thousand of people joined this forum daily. If like this running merit system then it will be impossible to rank up for newcomer, even he is good poster.
Prevent merit Erosion or vanish it's possible to change smerit circulation system. Now it is 1^merit=0.5^smerit . I think it can be implement 1^merit=1^smerit so that merit system will not erosion or vanish.

Now you may think there is merit source to recover for erosion merit. Currently up to now
I think it's not enough for recover. Because million members here ( I don't know exactly how many total member's here). Check Merit source status

Solution:
For me there is 2 solution.
1) Implement smreit to 1^merit=1^smerit
2) Inrease merit source and generate more merit I mean increase smerit limit.

Merit system was implement for prevent spam and keep this forum clean. So it should be continue without erosion for better result.

It's my own opinion you may disagree with me. Share your though is much appriceate.