Errol Spence Jr. Vs Manny Pacquiao - page 11.

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Maybe if the fight against Thurman did not happen, we might think that Manny at his age now will not beat a younger and undefeated boxer like spence and Crawford, but thanks to Thurman and his aggressiveness in the fight as he cause some trouble to Manny but Manny was able to survive and win via split decision.

Probably, I've seen Manny fans shifted to Thurman after knowing that he's unbeatable but turned back again to Manny after the match. This is getting intense again as usual in the boxing industry.

Terence Crawford Dares Errol Spence Jr To Fight Him Next Instead Of Pacquiao

Don't get me wrong, but this is a shit and clickbait article, we all know that this fight won't happen. And as much as we wanted to see them in the ring together, the article says it already.

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A Spence vs. Crawford showdown will undoubtedly be a megafight boxing fans would love to see. Unfortunately, there are some obstacles that stand in the way. Crawford is under Bob Arum while Spence is handled by Al Haymon.

Promoters are always the problem of boxing in this era. Golden Boy vs Top Rank, Bob Arum vs Al Haymon, these guys just want a chunk of good money from their boxers, they forget to realize that in order to revive boxing, they need to treat boxing fans quality fights and they should set aside their personal interest.

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Quote from: sunsilk on October 08, 2019, 06:07:17 PM

Quote from: Kasabus on October 08, 2019, 05:30:44 PM

Maybe if the fight against Thurman did not happen, we might think that Manny at his age now will not beat a younger and undefeated boxer like spence and Crawford, but thanks to Thurman and his aggressiveness in the fight as he cause some trouble to Manny but Manny was able to survive and win via split decision.

Probably, I've seen Manny fans shifted to Thurman after knowing that he's unbeatable but turned back again to Manny after the match. This is getting intense again as usual in the boxing industry.

Terence Crawford Dares Errol Spence Jr To Fight Him Next Instead Of Pacquiao

Don't get me wrong, but this is a shit and clickbait article, we all know that this fight won't happen. And as much as we wanted to see them in the ring together, the article says it already.

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A Spence vs. Crawford showdown will undoubtedly be a megafight boxing fans would love to see. Unfortunately, there are some obstacles that stand in the way. Crawford is under Bob Arum while Spence is handled by Al Haymon.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 08, 2019, 06:11:18 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on October 08, 2019, 06:07:17 PM

Quote from: Kasabus on October 08, 2019, 05:30:44 PM

Maybe if the fight against Thurman did not happen, we might think that Manny at his age now will not beat a younger and undefeated boxer like spence and Crawford, but thanks to Thurman and his aggressiveness in the fight as he cause some trouble to Manny but Manny was able to survive and win via split decision.

Probably, I've seen Manny fans shifted to Thurman after knowing that he's unbeatable but turned back again to Manny after the match. This is getting intense again as usual in the boxing industry.

Terence Crawford Dares Errol Spence Jr To Fight Him Next Instead Of Pacquiao

That's good, at least all the possibilities are within the 3 boxers now, this is what we called real boxing where boxers are not cherry picking their opponent, instead they are giving the fans the best match that they will be interested in. if they think like that, they will earn the respect especially for the young boxers, Manny started like that so they have to follow him if they want to also become a pound for pound boxer with no fear.

The hype is real again for these boxers.

Crawford, Spence and Manny. Are these all of them? I think that if there would be a need for another one to get into this hype and start making some noise so that their names will be louder that will get into every boxing fans emotion.

I'll sit right now and wait for a reply from any of them.

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Quote from: sunsilk on October 08, 2019, 06:07:17 PM

Quote from: Kasabus on October 08, 2019, 05:30:44 PM

Maybe if the fight against Thurman did not happen, we might think that Manny at his age now will not beat a younger and undefeated boxer like spence and Crawford, but thanks to Thurman and his aggressiveness in the fight as he cause some trouble to Manny but Manny was able to survive and win via split decision.

Probably, I've seen Manny fans shifted to Thurman after knowing that he's unbeatable but turned back again to Manny after the match. This is getting intense again as usual in the boxing industry.

Terence Crawford Dares Errol Spence Jr To Fight Him Next Instead Of Pacquiao

That's good, at least all the possibilities are within the 3 boxers now, this is what we called real boxing where boxers are not cherry picking their opponent, instead they are giving the fans the best match that they will be interested in. if they think like that, they will earn the respect especially for the young boxers, Manny started like that so they have to follow him if they want to also become a pound for pound boxer with no fear.

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Quote from: Kasabus on October 08, 2019, 05:30:44 PM

Maybe if the fight against Thurman did not happen, we might think that Manny at his age now will not beat a younger and undefeated boxer like spence and Crawford, but thanks to Thurman and his aggressiveness in the fight as he cause some trouble to Manny but Manny was able to survive and win via split decision.

Probably, I've seen Manny fans shifted to Thurman after knowing that he's unbeatable but turned back again to Manny after the match. This is getting intense again as usual in the boxing industry.

Terence Crawford Dares Errol Spence Jr To Fight Him Next Instead Of Pacquiao

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Quote from: DarkDays on October 08, 2019, 04:49:53 PM

Quote from: Finestream on October 06, 2019, 03:39:43 AM

Quote from: milewilda on October 06, 2019, 02:16:57 AM

Lets crossed out ~~Mayweather~~ on the list.There are some rumors that Crawford would be the next opponent of spence? Arrangements is really
unpredictable yet these promoters are do changed out fight arrangements.Manny and Spence still questionable but since its being talked about the there might be some
light for it to happen.Winning rate? Young champions are capable but wont really be that enough.

It would be an interesting fight if these 3 fighters are involved.

Manny vs Spence
Manny vs Crawford
Crawford vs Spence

Either any of the 3 possible fights would happen soon, I will surely watch and bet at the same time.
But hopefully it will be Manny's fight before he will retire.

Well at least two of those fights need to happen for there to be an undisputed fight, this is what everyone wants to see.

Realistically though, Crawford beats both Spence and Pacquiao, he's just too young and fast for Pacquiao and too experienced for Spence.

They will all be good, competitive fights though, Pacman and Spence are certainly no pushovers.

I personally think Pacquiao beats Spence too.

Do Crawford can beat out Pacquiao? Still questionable though but it do have higher chances yet Pacman is already aging but still not a guarantee
but as said these fights is everyone who do love to see.So whatever comes first will really be interesting.Im not focusing too much on statistics
but we cant avoid not to point out which one is more experienced and of course whose younger.lol

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Quote from: DarkDays on October 08, 2019, 04:49:53 PM

Quote from: Finestream on October 06, 2019, 03:39:43 AM

Quote from: milewilda on October 06, 2019, 02:16:57 AM

Lets crossed out ~~Mayweather~~ on the list.There are some rumors that Crawford would be the next opponent of spence? Arrangements is really
unpredictable yet these promoters are do changed out fight arrangements.Manny and Spence still questionable but since its being talked about the there might be some
light for it to happen.Winning rate? Young champions are capable but wont really be that enough.

It would be an interesting fight if these 3 fighters are involved.

Manny vs Spence
Manny vs Crawford
Crawford vs Spence

Either any of the 3 possible fights would happen soon, I will surely watch and bet at the same time.
But hopefully it will be Manny's fight before he will retire.

Well at least two of those fights need to happen for there to be an undisputed fight, this is what everyone wants to see.

Realistically though, Crawford beats both Spence and Pacquiao, he's just too young and fast for Pacquiao and too experienced for Spence.

They will all be good, competitive fights though, Pacman and Spence are certainly no pushovers.

I personally think Pacquiao beats Spence too.

Maybe if the fight against Thurman did not happen, we might think that Manny at his age now will not beat a younger and undefeated boxer like spence and Crawford, but thanks to Thurman and his aggressiveness in the fight as he cause some trouble to Manny but Manny was able to survive and win via split decision.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 06, 2019, 03:39:43 AM

Quote from: milewilda on October 06, 2019, 02:16:57 AM

Lets crossed out ~~Mayweather~~ on the list.There are some rumors that Crawford would be the next opponent of spence? Arrangements is really
unpredictable yet these promoters are do changed out fight arrangements.Manny and Spence still questionable but since its being talked about the there might be some
light for it to happen.Winning rate? Young champions are capable but wont really be that enough.

It would be an interesting fight if these 3 fighters are involved.

Manny vs Spence
Manny vs Crawford
Crawford vs Spence

Either any of the 3 possible fights would happen soon, I will surely watch and bet at the same time.
But hopefully it will be Manny's fight before he will retire.

Well at least two of those fights need to happen for there to be an undisputed fight, this is what everyone wants to see.

Realistically though, Crawford beats both Spence and Pacquiao, he's just too young and fast for Pacquiao and too experienced for Spence.

They will all be good, competitive fights though, Pacman and Spence are certainly no pushovers.

I personally think Pacquiao beats Spence too.

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To make it short, Spence purse will increase when he will fight pacman and manny might earn bigger as well.
But of course, we can't compare it to May Pac fight as that rematch would surely be a blockbuster, they will break their own record for sure.

Boxing is a business afterall so its no surprise that they would mind up those money on how much they would able to purse. Cheesy

While Spence is still on hype,he would make up or use that opportunity to fight up a popular fighter.We dont know whats actually on their
minds but making or pursing out millions is one of their priority for sure.For people above talking about Pacquiao and Garcia fight then i would like to see this rather
than with spence but well anything is on teams/admin decision.

With Spence's caliber he deserves to get a 7 digit check already. He holds a lot of belt so definitely his next fight should earn him a good chunk of money specially that there's a lot of hype around him, young champion and undefeated. But him getting Pacquiao next? Business wise he could get the biggest purse of his career simply because it is Manny. Boxing managers do set up their fighters to get the most money out of their fight so for sure they are going after Manny here.

Spence wanted to fight big names and he will not even back down if Mayweather will fight him which is less likely to happen as Mayweather are good in picking opponents that he thinks he can easily beat, Manny was an excemption since he was injured during their fight.

Back to Manny vs Spence, I think Manny's camp right now are already thinking of this possibility, this is good that Spence called Manny so we can only hope that Manny will agree,.. If he fought Thurman, I think there's a chance here.

Of course, Manny's camp has been thinking that the fight could happen next year. And I have no doubt that it a hearbeat, Pacquiao will sign the dotted line and face Spence. I agree that he shows a lot of heart against a young Thurman. But Spence is different though, and this Spence is going to be a big challenge for Manny if ever he chooses to fight him next because Spence is the best welterweight for me right now. And we don't want to see Manny takes a lot of punishment, IMHO.

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Quote from: mich on October 04, 2019, 08:22:16 AM

Some people forget that PACQUAIO is a Senator in the Philippines and does not need to fight to make his living
He is in this position where he will need to get public interest or he will not fight
A fight with EP could get the Senator injured so I don’t think he fights him

some other point thats why he continues to fight is the publicity ofcourse because i believe that being a senator won't last for long and being a politician he needs to grow and the best way is to target the vice presidential position or the highest one in which the presidency .and being a Hero as Boxing Legend this is advantageous in his part because in boxing alone he is gaining profit and also free campaigning.but lets not forget about the pride he brings to Filipino people and i'm proud of it

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Quote from: milewilda on October 06, 2019, 02:16:57 AM

Lets crossed out ~~Mayweather~~ on the list.There are some rumors that Crawford would be the next opponent of spence? Arrangements is really
unpredictable yet these promoters are do changed out fight arrangements.Manny and Spence still questionable but since its being talked about the there might be some
light for it to happen.Winning rate? Young champions are capable but wont really be that enough.

It would be an interesting fight if these 3 fighters are involved.

Manny vs Spence
Manny vs Crawford
Crawford vs Spence

Either any of the 3 possible fights would happen soon, I will surely watch and bet at the same time.
But hopefully it will be Manny's fight before he will retire.

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Quote from: Vaculin on October 03, 2019, 05:00:32 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 03, 2019, 03:55:23 PM

Quote from: milewilda on October 02, 2019, 02:46:09 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on October 02, 2019, 08:04:52 AM

To make it short, Spence purse will increase when he will fight pacman and manny might earn bigger as well.
But of course, we can't compare it to May Pac fight as that rematch would surely be a blockbuster, they will break their own record for sure.

Boxing is a business afterall so its no surprise that they would mind up those money on how much they would able to purse. Cheesy

While Spence is still on hype,he would make up or use that opportunity to fight up a popular fighter.We dont know whats actually on their
minds but making or pursing out millions is one of their priority for sure.For people above talking about Pacquiao and Garcia fight then i would like to see this rather
than with spence but well anything is on teams/admin decision.

With Spence's caliber he deserves to get a 7 digit check already. He holds a lot of belt so definitely his next fight should earn him a good chunk of money specially that there's a lot of hype around him, young champion and undefeated. But him getting Pacquiao next? Business wise he could get the biggest purse of his career simply because it is Manny. Boxing managers do set up their fighters to get the most money out of their fight so for sure they are going after Manny here.

Spence wanted to fight big names and he will not even back down if Mayweather will fight him which is less likely to happen as Mayweather are good in picking opponents that he thinks he can easily beat, Manny was an excemption since he was injured during their fight.

Back to Manny vs Spence, I think Manny's camp right now are already thinking of this possibility, this is good that Spence called Manny so we can only hope that Manny will agree,.. If he fought Thurman, I think there's a chance here.

Lets crossed out ~~Mayweather~~ on the list.There are some rumors that Crawford would be the next opponent of spence? Arrangements is really
unpredictable yet these promoters are do changed out fight arrangements.Manny and Spence still questionable but since its being talked about the there might be some
light for it to happen.Winning rate? Young champions are capable but wont really be that enough.

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Quote from: Oceat on October 04, 2019, 06:46:44 PM

I wonder why Spence is not healthy for him but I'm sure he can handle him just like as he handles Thurman on his previous fight. A rematch for Thurman would be fine too.

Spence for me is a better boxer that Thurman. Team Pacman chooses Thurman because he is inactive due to injury and his last fight with Lopez is not impressive. If not for that knockdown in the first round, the outcome of the fight could be different. That knockdown really take the confidence of Thurman out. As we can see in the second half of the fight, Pacman slowed down (age factor came in) and Thurman bounces back but unfortunately it's not enough though. Take a look at the compubox of that fight, Thurman edges Manny except for the jabs department. Thurman by now already had an idea on how to beat Manny if there is a rematch so is Spence.

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Compubox said that Thurman’s 192 is the most punches landed of any of Pacquiao’s opponents in the past 43 fights tracked by organization.

Bottomline, i don't want Manny to be like Freddie Roach. Hope you get what i mean bro.

Well, it's up to him or to his team on who would be his next opponent since he just misses the training I guess he's ready to come back to the stage. And also on the second half of his fight against Thurman, I think it's not like he's slowing down because all I can see is that he is playing safe because he knows how Thurman would change pace every round and I think that was his coach been trying to say to him.

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Mickey Garcia? - No, it will be a mismatch

Agree.

Quote from: Jating on October 04, 2019, 02:32:22 AM

Amir Khan? - Khan just fight for the paycheck now.
Doesn't make sense for Pacquaio to either fight any one of them. He should really target Spence now that's all the money are. Don't give any one the chance to have their biggest purse unless they have something to offer like a belt.

His sparring partner before but this guy's career's is going down, his soft chin made him vulnerable of getting knock down.
I think since Manny has fought a younger boxer, then he must focus on that, the best boxers now that are in his way are Spence and Crawford, but I like him fight with Spence first then Crawford next.(these 2 are both undefeated)..

There has been a lot of talks before that Manny is going to face Khan before. Amir Khan is a good boxer, no doubt, but his china chin is his biggest problem.

I also like him to fight Spence Jr and that's what the fans wanted. If he wins then definitely he can go after Crawford. I think this scenario will make Manny the best fighter in that division if he ever win against the two young and at the prime of their careers.

We can forget about Khan at the moment as he loss to Crawford, he doesn't deserve to face Manny at his state now.
Fans deserve a better fight and its either Spence or Crawford, I am sure that would be a sold out fight.

These young fighters deserve to have a good paycheck, and as long as Manny is fighting, he can help them to have that, but their undefeated record will be at risk as well.

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Quote from: Oceat on October 04, 2019, 06:46:44 PM

I wonder why Spence is not healthy for him but I'm sure he can handle him just like as he handles Thurman on his previous fight. A rematch for Thurman would be fine too.

Spence for me is a better boxer that Thurman. Team Pacman chooses Thurman because he is inactive due to injury and his last fight with Lopez is not impressive. If not for that knockdown in the first round, the outcome of the fight could be different. That knockdown really take the confidence of Thurman out. As we can see in the second half of the fight, Pacman slowed down (age factor came in) and Thurman bounces back but unfortunately it's not enough though. Take a look at the compubox of that fight, Thurman edges Manny except for the jabs department. Thurman by now already had an idea on how to beat Manny if there is a rematch so is Spence.

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Compubox said that Thurman’s 192 is the most punches landed of any of Pacquiao’s opponents in the past 43 fights tracked by organization.

Bottomline, i don't want Manny to be like Freddie Roach. Hope you get what i mean bro.

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Quote from: freedomgo on October 04, 2019, 05:54:55 AM

Quote from: Jating on October 04, 2019, 02:32:22 AM

Mickey Garcia? - No, it will be a mismatch

Agree.

Quote from: Jating on October 04, 2019, 02:32:22 AM

Amir Khan? - Khan just fight for the paycheck now.
Doesn't make sense for Pacquaio to either fight any one of them. He should really target Spence now that's all the money are. Don't give any one the chance to have their biggest purse unless they have something to offer like a belt.

His sparring partner before but this guy's career's is going down, his soft chin made him vulnerable of getting knock down.
I think since Manny has fought a younger boxer, then he must focus on that, the best boxers now that are in his way are Spence and Crawford, but I like him fight with Spence first then Crawford next.(these 2 are both undefeated)..

There has been a lot of talks before that Manny is going to face Khan before. Amir Khan is a good boxer, no doubt, but his china chin is his biggest problem.

I also like him to fight Spence Jr and that's what the fans wanted. If he wins then definitely he can go after Crawford. I think this scenario will make Manny the best fighter in that division if he ever win against the two young and at the prime of their careers.

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Yeah, Errol Spence Jr. said it but there is no confirmation yet to the team of Pacquiao. There are fighters who wants to face Pacquiao as their next opponent. I think the team of Pacquiao is making some adjustments due to his political career in the Philippines. I can't wait to see who's his next opponent next year.

Fighting Spence next year is not the top priority of Team Pacquiao in fact there is a news that i've read (just can't remember the name of the writer) saying the Manny's representative is now actively talking and negotiating the camp of Floyd Mayweather for a possible rematch next year. For me that is the very practical move Team Pacman should be doing.

I also read it from sportbible that Manny's representative is in talks with Floyd Mayweather people but we still can't be sure if the rematch fight will happen cause if the money is not good to make Floyd Mayweather fight he won't agree to give Manny the rematch he wanted.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 04, 2019, 05:46:16 PM

Floyd Mayweather maybe cherry picking on his opponents but he fight Manny on a rematch it would still be cherry picking as Manny will be having a hard time aginst a defensive boxer like Floyd. Besides the money involve on this fight would be huge so expect Mayweather to give a go signal when the right time comes, that we don't know.

Spence like i said is not a healthy fight for the Pacman at this stage of his career. That fight is very winnable for Manny but he is also compromising his health in doing so. Fight against Thurman is ATH in term of blows taken from an opponent and it would be new ATH if the fight with Spence push through. Manny had already enough of the beating and should consider fighting opponents level with his age but equally entertaining also.

I wonder where do you get all of this information but I would guess, you might have a very reputable sources than mine. Tongue

Anyway, if Mayweather would accept the fight for a rematch then it is not a cherry picking anymore but I really doubt that if he would actually gonna accept it. Grin

I wonder why Spence is not healthy for him but I'm sure he can handle him just like as he handles Thurman on his previous fight. A rematch for Thurman would be fine too.

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Quote from: jakoylantern on October 04, 2019, 12:51:18 PM

Well, to the article that I have read, Errol Sepence Jr, wants to fight Senator Manny Pacquiao just to show off and want to make more money than fighting against Danny Garcia. Also, they said Pacquiao, has not shut the door on a showdown with Amir Khan, so I think if both groups agree, we will be facing a match of Amir Khan Vs. Manny Pacquiao.

I don’t think that will happen mate because I am pretty sure that Spence Jr. is the most competent opponent fo Manny Pacquiao and we already knew the fighting senator ,he wants a Good and tough fight and he will not choose fighter that he knew he can dominate in ring so basically with all the publicity going around in the end it’s Errol Spence Jr. is whom Manny will face

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 04, 2019, 05:46:16 PM

Manny had already enough of the beating and should consider fighting opponents level with his age but equally entertaining also.

Though we know its the best for Manny but let's admit it hard to find someone who can give that to him, instead of Mayweather.
I hope Mayweather will just grant the request of the people for them to fight again before Manny retires, although there's a possibility that it would be a boring one but at least he has proven that he is in this boxing to entertain the fans, not only to protect his undefeated record.

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