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Topic: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet - page 171. (Read 966173 times)

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Ps I've played with mine and it's amazing. Beautiful screen, no lag, plug and play except browser plugin, web wallet works great. These oled screens burn up real quick even if not using them though.

I agree. It's very well done:-)
legendary
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Ps I've played with mine and it's amazing. Beautiful screen, no lag, plug and play except browser plugin, web wallet works great. These oled screens burn up real quick even if not using them though. I miss my old Ericsson Bluetooth watch.

I've had to sell it, but I'll buy again if there's an android app and included otg cable.
legendary
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So to detect tampering, the sonically welded plastic case would show signs of being opened?
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Anyone know if there's epoxy inside to destroy it if opened?

Tried to open it, but the plastic is rather
soft and will get damaged in the process.
Sacrificing a 'First Edition' only to have look
at a MCU + OLED display is a bit too much;)  

One picyure for you:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bXllT2y2nkA/U99emAPcg6I/AAAAAAAADEM/L_-3M3UZ2pM/w1280-h800-p-k/IMG_20140530_175838.jpg

Nice:)

- USB connector + with decoupling to GND
- USB ESD protection
- power reversal protection diode
- resetable fuse
- 5V to 3V3 (?) regulator
- STM32F205 ARM with USB + LCD interface
- 8Mc (?) xtal
- two push buttons
- OLED screen
- some passives

It's all firmware...Wink



https://github.com/satoshilabs/docs/blob/master/trezor-tech/hardware.rst
sr. member
Activity: 427
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Anyone know if there's epoxy inside to destroy it if opened?

Tried to open it, but the plastic is rather
soft and will get damaged in the process.
Sacrificing a 'First Edition' only to have look
at a MCU + OLED display is a bit too much;)  

One picyure for you:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bXllT2y2nkA/U99emAPcg6I/AAAAAAAADEM/L_-3M3UZ2pM/w1280-h800-p-k/IMG_20140530_175838.jpg

Nice:)

- USB connector + with decoupling to GND
- USB ESD protection
- power reversal protection diode
- resetable fuse
- 5V to 3V3 (?) regulator
- STM32F205 ARM with USB + LCD interface
- 8Mc (?) xtal
- two push buttons
- OLED screen
- some passives

It's all firmware...Wink

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Activity: 120
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Anyone know if there's epoxy inside to destroy it if opened?

Tried to open it, but the plastic is rather
soft and will get damaged in the process.
Sacrificing a 'First Edition' only to have look
at a MCU + OLED display is a bit too much;)  



One picyure for you:
legendary
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legendary
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So epoxy or not?
legendary
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Thats pretty shame the affilate program is supposed to work only for someone who already bought the trezor... I cant think who else doing this kind of restrictions, maybe some MLM  Cheesy

We don't want just people spamming TREZOR links everywhere. We do prefer people with hand on experience, who actually understand (at least on user level) how this stuff works, write about TREZOR on their blogs, doing howto videos etc. There're already people spreading word about TREZOR advantages, willing to explaining things to beginners, and they deserve some reward.
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So, is SatoshiLabs signed firmware update capable of updating boot loader?

No. Bootloader is locked. Only firmware parts can be changed.
sr. member
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Anyone know if there's epoxy inside to destroy it if opened?

Tried to open it, but the plastic is rather
soft and will get damaged in the process.
Sacrificing a 'First Edition' only to have look
at a MCU + OLED display is a bit too much;) 




I hear it's sonically welded

Just ordered another one...
legendary
Activity: 2912
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Anyone know if there's epoxy inside to destroy it if opened?

Tried to open it, but the plastic is rather
soft and will get damaged in the process.
Sacrificing a 'First Edition' only to have look
at a MCU + OLED display is a bit too much;) 




I hear it's sonically welded
sr. member
Activity: 427
Merit: 251
- electronics design|embedded software|verilog -
Anyone know if there's epoxy inside to destroy it if opened?

Tried to open it, but the plastic is rather
soft and will get damaged in the process.
Sacrificing a 'First Edition' only to have look
at a MCU + OLED display is a bit too much;) 


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The boot loader can never be changed safely, it should be locked like phones

So, is SatoshiLabs signed firmware update capable of updating boot loader?

No the boot loader doesn't need to be updated and shouldn't be

Depends if it's ROM based, how many bootloader stages you have, it's definitely not that simple Smiley


legendary
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The boot loader can never be changed safely, it should be locked like phones

So, is SatoshiLabs signed firmware update capable of updating boot loader?

No the boot loader doesn't need to be updated and shouldn't be
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The boot loader can never be changed safely, it should be locked like phones

So, is SatoshiLabs signed firmware update capable of updating boot loader?
legendary
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The boot loader can never be changed safely, it should be locked like phones
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Did you, TREZOR devs, forget to increase the version number? The new firmware still reports as 1.2.0 after a successful update.

Are you sure? If it is "1.2.0" on display in bootloader, then it is a version of a bootloader not flashed firmware.

I mean what is displayed when plugged in with both buttons pressed. The serial number and a version number.

BLv.1.2.0

So it's BootLoader and the number is only equal to the firmware version we had before by chance.
Okay.
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I guess it doesn't hurt but dont hardware rng's use background radiation to produce entropy? I mean its hard to imagine how that could be exploited. Unless the manufacturers are lying about what is inside their chips. These days anything is possible though i suppose.

No the Intel implementation uses analog transistors to digital. They can be completely fake too.

I can imagine a way to fake radiation. I can even imagine a way (using external magnets) to fake analog-to-digital transistor conversions. It's difficult but it can be done. It's better to not having to trust it.
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