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Topic: ETH Bounty for Gigabyte G1 4GB RX470 (Read 2069 times)

newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
April 14, 2017, 06:25:27 PM
#28
Try minergate there you can set intesitivy.You will then know what best is configuration.

I want to know more about minergate working and which graphics card will be best for working with minergate. I am currently working through CPU there which can not give me much handsome income, so please suggest me the good one. i have core2quad with 4gb ram.

It's a noob trap, use actual miner. Also, "handsome income" with cpu mining is long way gone.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 259
April 13, 2017, 09:10:56 AM
#27
Try minergate there you can set intesitivy.You will then know what best is configuration.

I want to know more about minergate working and which graphics card will be best for working with minergate. I am currently working through CPU there which can not give me much handsome income, so please suggest me the good one. i have core2quad with 4gb ram.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
April 12, 2017, 08:35:36 PM
#26
(68.3 + ~40 ) = 108.3 W + min. 40w for motherboard = total 148w

No, it cant be 95w from wall, im sorry.
Even a photo wouldn't convince me.

Smiley this is just an example from the few rigs I have running ... no one in the right mind would mine with just two cards. This is my daily pc. Each of my full time rigs are running 6 cards each.

( 68 x 6 ) + 120 riser + 55 system = X
X / 6 = 90 - 95.

My AMP meter has the same value at 2.35 to 2.42a.



Is that AMP meter reading a true r.m.s (Root mean square) current? or time average current?
because time average current can be some 20% lower from the truth...
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
April 12, 2017, 08:27:52 PM
#25
Yes the RX series use like 45-60Watts to power the memory and aux. This doesn't come from the PCIe 6/8 pin connectors but slot, its the way they are designed.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
April 12, 2017, 08:11:55 PM
#24
I can guarantee you that there is not a single 470/480 out there that uses 25watts of power thru the riser. Any 6 PIN GPU usually uses about 45-70 Watts from the PEG connector.

The only GPU that I measured that used 25watts from the PEG connector was a ASUS 7970 which had 2x8pin slots to get most of its power from.

The Gigabyte G1 uses 44Watts from the PEG
The MSI 470 4GB uses 60 Watts from the PEG
The MSI 370 OC uses 70 Watts from the PEG


PEG = PCIe slot power / riser power

So, you wanna say that my G1 uses ~40W from Extender out of ~90W total power? What about cards connected via only cable riser?
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
April 12, 2017, 06:37:01 PM
#23
(68.3 + ~40 ) = 108.3 W + min. 40w for motherboard = total 148w

No, it cant be 95w from wall, im sorry.
Even a photo wouldn't convince me.

If your riser is taking up 40w then I would recommend you change another brand as it will surely melt any of the power cable. It is taking 60% value of a graphic card.

Not very efficient running at 40w just to power up a riser.

40w in my math is what adaseb wrote 44w, the value in gpu-z is not the real w, its just the gpu, approx you have to add 40-45w to what you see in gpu-z, and that's only the video card.
40-50w for the mobo,hdd with one card idle.
If you have 6 cards on the mobo then it's about 120-130w for the mobo and idle cards.

I do agree that the riser requires juice but 44w for each riser is just rediculous. I am only drawing 20w to 25w for mine. You need to check your source and change manufacture as 44w per riser alone is too high.


I setup my rigs with one card full load was 160w off the wall. Then i added an additional card at the metered showed 240w to 250w and never exceeding 250w. When i added all six my energy on the wall showed 600w to 650w.

That's why I am asking if there is anyone that could produce with a custom strap or bios modification to achieve higher result with the current energy requirement.

I can guarantee you that there is not a single 470/480 out there that uses 25watts of power thru the riser. Any 6 PIN GPU usually uses about 45-70 Watts from the PEG connector.

The only GPU that I measured that used 25watts from the PEG connector was a ASUS 7970 which had 2x8pin slots to get most of its power from.

The Gigabyte G1 uses 44Watts from the PEG
The MSI 470 4GB uses 60 Watts from the PEG
The MSI 370 OC uses 70 Watts from the PEG


PEG = PCIe slot power / riser power
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
April 12, 2017, 06:21:28 PM
#22
I've seen people slightly modify 1500 strap to be able to achieve greater memory clock. 1150/2040 for 28+ MH/s and slightly higher power consumption.

I've got 18 Gigabyte 4GB RX470 (Hynix) and 6 Gigabyte 8GB RX480 (Samsung). Since I don't have to pay for electricity, I managed to push RX470 with 1500 strap and 1280/2000 to about 28 MH/s. Stable.
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 250
April 12, 2017, 06:08:59 PM
#21
(68.3 + ~40 ) = 108.3 W + min. 40w for motherboard = total 148w

No, it cant be 95w from wall, im sorry.
Even a photo wouldn't convince me.

If your riser is taking up 40w then I would recommend you change another brand as it will surely melt any of the power cable. It is taking 60% value of a graphic card.

Not very efficient running at 40w just to power up a riser.

40w in my math is what adaseb wrote 44w, the value in gpu-z is not the real w, its just the gpu, approx you have to add 40-45w to what you see in gpu-z, and that's only the video card.
40-50w for the mobo,hdd with one card idle.
If you have 6 cards on the mobo then it's about 120-130w for the mobo and idle cards.

I do agree that the riser requires juice but 44w for each riser is just rediculous. I am only drawing 20w to 25w for mine. You need to check your source and change manufacture as 44w per riser alone is too high.


I setup my rigs with one card full load was 160w off the wall. Then i added an additional card at the metered showed 240w to 250w and never exceeding 250w. When i added all six my energy on the wall showed 600w to 650w.

That's why I am asking if there is anyone that could produce with a custom strap or bios modification to achieve higher result with the current energy requirement.
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 250
April 12, 2017, 06:03:03 PM
#20
LoL ... you can go faster my dear countrymen (OP)

just do your homework & test

just don't really get it, lowest power & fastest speed .. just go as high as possible, if power is really a concern then you shouldn't be mining.

do the math, low power does NOT mean 1 is saving power. hashrates from dual mining vs power used & work out the profitability, i think my math tells me max + dual mining is ahead. ah by looking at your gpuz you will have more of a temp issue instead of power imo.

btw, there's no more or just few left of this GPU in local market, well, i do have a bunch of them.

simple rule of thumb, you want more hash from gpu, give it more power = more work, less power less work.

just find the balance.

i'd assume the power consumption is NOT accurate from you. go get a killawatt of even better a clamp meter n go clamp then come back n ask.

with 31 Celcius in an environment without Air condition, you need to stretch as much as you can from the system. Limitation to 60a circuit breaker on each line, i am able to achieve 15 sets and maxed out at 45 rigs. Power management is very crucial for my setup. Not to forget it still have to provide some juice to the rest of the building for daily operations Smiley

I am already pushing all my rigs to 80c to 89c...

The figures I am producing is from a clamp meter Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1500
Merit: 1002
Mine Mine Mine
April 12, 2017, 05:16:48 PM
#19
LoL ... you can go faster my dear countrymen (OP)

just do your homework & test

just don't really get it, lowest power & fastest speed .. just go as high as possible, if power is really a concern then you shouldn't be mining.

do the math, low power does NOT mean 1 is saving power. hashrates from dual mining vs power used & work out the profitability, i think my math tells me max + dual mining is ahead. ah by looking at your gpuz you will have more of a temp issue instead of power imo.

btw, there's no more or just few left of this GPU in local market, well, i do have a bunch of them.

simple rule of thumb, you want more hash from gpu, give it more power = more work, less power less work.

just find the balance.

i'd assume the power consumption is NOT accurate from you. go get a killawatt of even better a clamp meter n go clamp then come back n ask.
hero member
Activity: 2548
Merit: 626
April 12, 2017, 02:13:48 PM
#18
(68.3 + ~40 ) = 108.3 W + min. 40w for motherboard = total 148w

No, it cant be 95w from wall, im sorry.
Even a photo wouldn't convince me.

If your riser is taking up 40w then I would recommend you change another brand as it will surely melt any of the power cable. It is taking 60% value of a graphic card.

Not very efficient running at 40w just to power up a riser.

40w in my math is what adaseb wrote 44w, the value in gpu-z is not the real w, its just the gpu, approx you have to add 40-45w to what you see in gpu-z, and that's only the video card.
40-50w for the mobo,hdd with one card idle.
If you have 6 cards on the mobo then it's about 120-130w for the mobo and idle cards.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
April 12, 2017, 01:40:23 PM
#17
Whatever value you have shown in the GPU-Z, add 44 Watts and thats your exact true power consumption.

The 44 Watts is what I measured with my current amp meter and its what's being consumed by the PCIe slot. The power is always constant at 44 Watts whether you are solo ETH, dual ETH, overclocked, undervolted, underclocked, etc its because its what powers the AUX and Memory controller. The 8 pin PCIe is what powers the GPU core.

sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 250
April 12, 2017, 08:59:26 AM
#16
I am not trying to proof a point but just to share it is possible as this is one of my rigs.



sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 250
April 12, 2017, 08:38:02 AM
#15
(68.3 + ~40 ) = 108.3 W + min. 40w for motherboard = total 148w

No, it cant be 95w from wall, im sorry.
Even a photo wouldn't convince me.

If your riser is taking up 40w then I would recommend you change another brand as it will surely melt any of the power cable. It is taking 60% value of a graphic card.

Not very efficient running at 40w just to power up a riser.
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 250
April 12, 2017, 08:35:41 AM
#14
(68.3 + ~40 ) = 108.3 W + min. 40w for motherboard = total 148w

No, it cant be 95w from wall, im sorry.
Even a photo wouldn't convince me.

Smiley this is just an example from the few rigs I have running ... no one in the right mind would mine with just two cards. This is my daily pc. Each of my full time rigs are running 6 cards each.

( 68 x 6 ) + 120 riser + 55 system = X
X / 6 = 90 - 95.

My AMP meter has the same value at 2.35 to 2.42a.

hero member
Activity: 2548
Merit: 626
April 12, 2017, 06:15:15 AM
#13
(68.3 + ~40 ) = 108.3 W + min. 40w for motherboard = total 148w

No, it cant be 95w from wall, im sorry.
Even a photo wouldn't convince me.
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 250
full member
Activity: 157
Merit: 100
April 12, 2017, 03:02:30 AM
#11
What strap are you using?
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 250
April 12, 2017, 01:00:39 AM
#10
Its a 4GB Card Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 250
April 12, 2017, 12:58:38 AM
#9
27.8MH/s using 95 Watts from wall is not possible. That's like 3.4W/MHS. The best I've seen with the RX series is like 4W/MHS but that's with a 8GB and Platinum PSU.

And especially impossible without an undervolt. You are probably not measuring it correctly.





Smiley if it was on GPUz its like this


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