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I was actually surprised that ETH is not that affected and even made some increase even though for the past days BTC went down like hundreds of dollars. It is indeed a good sign! So what we need to do is to at least invest some and with ETH's development let see if it will hit the previous ATH.

It should be better if eth can be affected by the price of BTC and return to the top position without being affected by BTC when in a low position. maybe this is one thing why the bull run eth is not in the right time together with the increase in btc.

Both are different paths, the increase in ETH is not based on increase in price of Bitcoin, but increase in price of Bitcoin that reaches next ATH can make other Altcoin prices become pump, including ETH. ETH bull run will definitely happen in the near future. Now the sign is visible

What signs are you seeing?

I'm not seeing any for ETH except for the hype around ETH 2.0 in January.

Yes, both are obvious on a different part, but we can't deny at least both are top coins. Every altcoin is being peg to BTC today including ETH. So we should look at BTC first and see how it goes after the block halving and hope that its bull run will also infect altcoin market.

Maybe because it is already happened. And usually in crypto it is like cycles because it keep happen and happen. But it is supported with ETH 2.0 that actually maybe can help ETH to get pumped and follow bitcoin. A lot of people already predict this thing and usually it happen.

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you are only comparing pictures with each other while disregarding what was going on in the background.

in 2016 it was the mass smapvertisement of ETH all over the internet. there wasn't a day where i didn't receive a PM or Email or something on bitcointalk, reddit and a lot of other places telling me to buy this shitcoin. they spent literary millions to advertise their shitcoin.
then the ICO scam hype began which boasted their pumping power and led to the huge rises.

none of these things can ever be repeated. not this year nor any other year in the future. you can't use the same techniques to pump the same coin again!

what they will do however to pump their shitcoin is going to be the release of their new version (which doesn't really make any difference) then they pump it a little bit to try and revive the coin but it will be pumped soon after.

so far this year we have a >200% rise in bitcoin and that was the bull run. as you can see ETH and a lot of other similar shitcoins dumped hard during the past 9 months that bitcoin has been bull running Cheesy

I because i wasn't talking about FA. But while you are talking about background, why don't you talk about eth fundamentals then? Only thing i see you now criticizing is the spammy marketing and it being a shitcoin, nothing the developers or the developement. Funny thing is that i heard a lot about it being a major scam and shitcoin in 2016 as well.

ETH has never been a scam in traditional meaning of the word. it is a project that had an excellent idea but they used it to make themselves rich. and to do that they have made decisions that has ruined the project. today, it is a centralized shitcoin that is only alive because of the multimillionaires behind it are pumping it and keeping it alive.

the problem with all those who are so hot about Ethereum and defending it is that they have never even used it in real life! they are either holding tokens on exchanges ready to dump and make profit or at most they are using a web wallet to store their tokens as easily as possible. if you have ever bothered actually using it, and compare the platform with other similar smart contract platforms you would have never talked about its developers or development...

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Quote from: velive08 on September 18, 2019, 11:36:19 AM

Quote from: patz22 on September 16, 2019, 08:16:31 PM

I was actually surprised that ETH is not that affected and even made some increase even though for the past days BTC went down like hundreds of dollars. It is indeed a good sign! So what we need to do is to at least invest some and with ETH's development let see if it will hit the previous ATH.

It should be better if eth can be affected by the price of BTC and return to the top position without being affected by BTC when in a low position. maybe this is one thing why the bull run eth is not in the right time together with the increase in btc.

Both are different paths, the increase in ETH is not based on increase in price of Bitcoin, but increase in price of Bitcoin that reaches next ATH can make other Altcoin prices become pump, including ETH. ETH bull run will definitely happen in the near future. Now the sign is visible

What signs are you seeing?

I'm not seeing any for ETH except for the hype around ETH 2.0 in January.

Yes, both are obvious on a different part, but we can't deny at least both are top coins. Every altcoin is being peg to BTC today including ETH. So we should look at BTC first and see how it goes after the block halving and hope that its bull run will also infect altcoin market.

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No, I don't think things will go that smoothly. Because history is just history, it will be very difficult to happen exactly as it was. It is only a document for our reference, but our purpose is still to consider the actual situation.
Although the ETH days have had a great bull run these days, it does not mean that they will continue to run and the bull price will skyrocket when Bitcoin retests the $ 20k level.

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The misleading commentary will not reach the required discussion circumstance if the OP doesn't want to use the correct tools. The correlation between ETH and BTC doesn't mean the prices will always follow each other. Alt season will start in case of diminished Bitcoin dominance and Ethereum is not an exception in my view.

Quote from: hahay on September 20, 2019, 11:18:32 AM

Bullrun is bound to happen and recently ethereum looks more consistent for a continued surge, ethereum can keep prices in the $200 range even when yesterday the price of bitcoin got a big correction and indeed the market red again, but with such signs the possibility of ethereum will pump up faster than expected.

Ethereum looks bullish in the recent week and the market conditions improve in this uptrend mood of the crypto market. The pump must live for the 2 weeks in order to see the price levels above the 250$, the market price is slightly under the $220 according to the coinmarketcap. The red market will not visit the altcoin if the Bitcoin dominance falls under 65% in my opinion.

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That's what most people are thinking I guess, the last time there was a bull run is because ETH broke its ATH and if that will happen this year, we could possible see a bull run of not only ETH but the entire altcoins market.

Remember that there are also a lot of altcoins that are still sleeping now or have struggled to rise due to the non consistent movement of BTC.
It needs to pump or skyrocket so it will easily reached a new ATH, its high this year was only $13k and then it stopped, so we should try again and break that resistance but it's not possible without positive news to back it.

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What if BTC did not reach another all time high? Does this mean ETH will not have a bullrun? And if BTC reached an all time high, what is it for ETH? They are two separate project, so I do not understand why does BTC need to reach its ATH before ETH to bull run. Though I think ETH may have possibly a bull run when BTC domination goes down. Since the fund from Bitcoin during that time will go out and flow to altcoin market. And I am sure majority of those funds will flow to ETH which then signals its bull run.

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Bullrun is bound to happen and recently ethereum looks more consistent for a continued surge, ethereum can keep prices in the $200 range even when yesterday the price of bitcoin got a big correction and indeed the market red again, but with such signs the possibility of ethereum will pump up faster than expected.

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Quote from: Nivia1st on September 18, 2019, 12:08:30 PM

I'm sure ethereum bull before BTC returned to ATH. at this moment we can see, ethereum has begun to show signs of a bull trend. if this continues, isn't what I'm saying completely true?

maybe eth will pump a little more higher before the bakkt launch after 3 days. Eth must stay stable at 250$ before bitcoin starts to pump starting next week.

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Quote from: Nivia1st on September 18, 2019, 12:08:30 PM

I'm sure ethereum bull before BTC returned to ATH. at this moment we can see, ethereum has begun to show signs of a bull trend. if this continues, isn't what I'm saying completely true?

I hope it will and everyone could have the answers to their long wait for ETH to rise again.
But we can't disclose any moment that it will turn down back in a few days coming. There is something we need to see moving with ETH and that is BTC but it looks like it is getting stable by now and there are no signs for the upcoming ATH. It is all likely to see its good and so the entire market will recover by then.

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Quote from: Bananington on September 17, 2019, 05:15:21 PM

Recently ETH started an uptrend in price. Many argue that it's because of ETH 2.0 approaching whereby the consensus algorithm will be upgraded to POS(Proof of Stake) which is cool. BTC will move up hugely everything being equal come next year before the halving. TA is cool but market emotions will decide finally. Fingers crossed, we hope for the best.

I think that it has nothing to do with 2.0. There's also a strong possibility that this was the start of a HUGE altseason if that line holds -> https://www.tradingview.com/chart/TOTAL2/UF3PWa45-Altseason-is-near-Prepare-to-deal-with-the-euphoria/

And it seems like it does.

Edit: it didn't

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I'm sure ethereum bull before BTC returned to ATH. at this moment we can see, ethereum has begun to show signs of a bull trend. if this continues, isn't what I'm saying completely true?

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Quote from: patz22 on September 16, 2019, 08:16:31 PM

I was actually surprised that ETH is not that affected and even made some increase even though for the past days BTC went down like hundreds of dollars. It is indeed a good sign! So what we need to do is to at least invest some and with ETH's development let see if it will hit the previous ATH.

It should be better if eth can be affected by the price of BTC and return to the top position without being affected by BTC when in a low position. maybe this is one thing why the bull run eth is not in the right time together with the increase in btc.

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Quote from: caffu chino on September 16, 2019, 11:34:04 AM

The question is when will BTC return to ATH? or is there still another chance?

if not, wouldn't ethereum not be bull?

I don't agree with relying on repetition. the market isn't that simple

BTC will still be able to increase and now BTC just needs to adjust to a big step and make a surprise to remain in the highest position, BTC is still potentially high I'm sure of that.

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It makes sense that huge Bull run would follow in the event of BTC hitting 20k and more . But also we have seen that alts can perform in times when BTC is stagnant as in the last few days, your idea makes me think that we will not see incredible gains from alts just yet. Possibly BTC action will cut it short.

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Yes, we usually call it alts season and it's coming. The alts have been rising sharply over the past few hours and it will certainly increase until Bitcoin Dominance is only 60%.
This is a good time for us to buy and hold the top alts, it's getting hyped up.

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There are tentative signs now that an ETH bull run is starting, with other alts following. ETH is up 20% in the last day. BTC hasn't really moved. XRP started later but now has a similar daily increase to ETH.

It is starting to look like there might be an alt run starting already. Very early days though, so obviously it can change, but looks quite promising at the moment.

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It's not possible because bitcoin always influence ethereum so there's a possibility that it will always make pump during the journey of bitcoin to ATH. But i didn't say it will constantly to bull as wel because you know sometimes it change direction due to some cuases, so must be aware and always monitor the growth to assure you don't miss the opportunity to dump.

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Quote from: traderethereum on September 16, 2019, 08:36:55 PM

I see many of my friends talk about the ethereum bull run that will happen in a short time, but I still doubt that it will happen quickly because the price needs a hard way to increase.
But ethereum can make us shock by making a fast pump that could come in anytime, and some of my friends already calculate what price they should buy.
I guess that could happen after bitcoin reach the highest price so ethereum and the other altcoin can follow to increase and I hope that the altcoin will also get a bull run like bitcoin.
Ethereum now has trying to break $200 and stay at that level price before it could increase higher.
Soon, if bitcoin can stay at a price now or increase higher, ethereum will start to rally.
But that is only a prediction we can make, and we don't know if that could happen or not.

Maybe you have a point. I myself am also still hesitant to increase prices. On one hand Ethereum can make a price pump shock. I remember some time ago when Bitcoin rose but many Altcoins flushed in exchange except for one coin, Ethereum, from here I also worth if Ethereum itself has a strong bond with Bitcoin (maybe).

But we can hope that Ethereum can increase in shortly because I see that many people are predicting the Ethereum price will rise.
I see that many people are drawing the line regarding the chart of Ethereum in the market, so they believe that the price will increase.
But I still doubt that the price can directly to jump to the highest price because that will depends on the bitcoin price itself.
As long as the bitcoin price can not reach the next higher price, it will be difficult for the altcoin, especially Ethereum, to increase higher.
But everything can happen in the crypto market, and all we can do is be patient and waiting for the time to come.
Meanwhile, we need to draw more line or analyze the Ethereum movements so we can get the right time and right price to enter the market.
So be careful to determine the price, make sure you are ready for anything that will happen later.

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Quote from: caffu chino on September 16, 2019, 11:34:04 AM

The question is when will BTC return to ATH? or is there still another chance?

if not, wouldn't ethereum not be bull?

I don't agree with relying on repetition. the market isn't that simple

Good question lol😀😀😀 I suggest always be positive and do not lost hope, according to the speculation and technical analysiis from the financial expert all time high is possible to uprise before end of this year.
We the potential of ethereum and we know ethereum how useful in every project in crypto space so possible if but ycoin start rising into bullrun ethereum is possible to follow also to their king.

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