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legendary
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May 12, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Q Blockchain fixes this. It has reverse gas fees so you never need to worry about gas fees after you initially deposit some Q. Gas fees are redistributed to holders instead of strictly going to validators like other chains.

Never heard of it. But actually giving users a "rebate" for every gas fee paid, sounds like a good idea to me. Why not even remove network fees altogether? TRX, EOS, STEEM, and NANO have zero fees which makes them useful for "De-Fi". There's even a new Blockchain network called "ThunderCore" with near-instant transaction processing times.

With many options available on the market, high gas fees would only become a thing of the past. ETH won't stay expensive forever anyways, so sit tight and wait as the best is yet to come. Who knows if a sudden decline in network fees will boost mainstream adoption for ETH like never before? Just my thoughts Grin
hero member
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May 11, 2023, 07:37:26 PM
My last transaction was 1.5 ETH. I had to cancel. I will not understand at all that there is Buterin with gas to joke like that. Maybe the time has come to completely abandon the first-level blockchain.
We really got hit the heavy network congestion and it was disappointing to see the huge fees. I'd see that it was impossible for small investors to buy and more their money in this situation. For now, nothing to do but to check regularly the chart fees and wait until it goes back to low fees. Honestly, the entire market is been suffering huge fees which include Bitcoin as well. I've been looking for another option but it was hopeless, we can't any other than just wait to calm down.  I think we are urged to hold because of this situation...
seems like common case is if the blockchain has becoming big and congested enough it will surely face scalability issues, the problem needs to be solved fundamentally, even layer 2 right now aren't better either, they requires massive fee unlike before, it's again coming back to the scalability issues.
hero member
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May 11, 2023, 07:22:58 PM
the only way it goes lower is wait for a day where transaction is low.
what acitivity push eth gas high anyway? market is bearish
there are many meme coins and airdrops claiming, which gonna push the activity more over there are also NFT, added with the fact that the sequencer of l2 are also keep on submitting their transaction on eth blockchain, there are so many activities in ethereum despite market being relatively bearish.
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May 11, 2023, 06:43:22 PM
So I have to pay $9 ETH to transfer 70 USDT I just received, out of my wallet? And worse, transferring any amount of ETH will set you back $3 in gas fees.

I've just converted most of my ETH to BTC, and have $0.5 left in metamask. It claims to have an "advanced gas control" when you hit Send, but it's not showing me that.

Is there a way for me to lower the gas fees from metamask, or otherwise import the wallet into some other software?

there is no way to reduce gas fees from ETH, because indeed gas fees from ETH are very expensive, but of course transactions using blockchain from ETH are very fast and even then I'm still too lazy to use blockchain from ETH, because in my opinion the gas fees are very expensive and doesn't suit me, that's why I always use blockchain from BSC or Matic.
member
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May 10, 2023, 01:44:26 AM
I think it's become a classic story for eth gas costs especially during periods of high demand, and it causes frustration and concern about the viability of the network in the long term. what is a question mark now is that many platforms are suspending payments especially at this time. I'm also confused about why it can be delayed, oh, there are those who use the App Trust Wallet here in making transactions, please see if I'm right.!!
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May 09, 2023, 09:21:43 PM
So I have to pay $9 ETH to transfer 70 USDT I just received, out of my wallet? And worse, transferring any amount of ETH will set you back $3 in gas fees.

I've just converted most of my ETH to BTC, and have $0.5 left in metamask. It claims to have an "advanced gas control" when you hit Send, but it's not showing me that.

Is there a way for me to lower the gas fees from metamask, or otherwise import the wallet into some other software?
Q Blockchain fixes this. It has reverse gas fees so you never need to worry about gas fees after you initially deposit some Q. Gas fees are redistributed to holders instead of strictly going to validators like other chains.
legendary
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May 09, 2023, 11:15:53 AM
It looks like the tables have turned, if we look at the current spam on Bitcoin blockchain. That's what Ethereum network has been dealing with since the Bull run of 2017-2018 and the problem has refused to vanish to this date

I think something needs to be done about the Ordinals or those so called BRC20 before things go awful on the oldest and most decentralized blockchain network..

That's the problem with NFTs and "meme" coins. They often clog the network as people hunt these digital assets like crazy with the hopes of becoming rich quick. That, and also the fact that scammers flood the Blockchain with worthless "meme" coins for their own personal benefit. It all started with ETH, and now it has ended with BTC. Don't expect fees to decline anytime soon unless this craze is over (which I doubt it'll ever be over).

Developers need to act fast before it's too late. High network fees prevents the average person from getting onboard. They only benefit validators and whales alike. If Blockchain is all about equality and decentralization, then ETH must increase its network capacity to fulfill this. Otherwise, it would become no different than the traditional banking system where the rich get richer, and the poor, poorer. Maybe there will be brighter days ahead for ETH? Just my thoughts Grin
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May 08, 2023, 05:53:37 PM
the only way it goes lower is wait for a day where transaction is low.
what acitivity push eth gas high anyway? market is bearish
I just don't know now why the transaction fee of many coin are desperately increasing with a reason that is so annoying. Take a look at Bitcoin that we all think will spear us but now the gas fee is just like Ethereum. I hope all these high gas fee would reduce with time especially for Ethereum and Bitcoin that had suddenly been increase. I have to pay $7 to transfer $11 in Bitcoin...so annoying.
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May 08, 2023, 04:17:09 PM
My last transaction was 1.5 ETH. I had to cancel. I will not understand at all that there is Buterin with gas to joke like that. Maybe the time has come to completely abandon the first-level blockchain.
We really got hit the heavy network congestion and it was disappointing to see the huge fees. I'd see that it was impossible for small investors to buy and more their money in this situation. For now, nothing to do but to check regularly the chart fees and wait until it goes back to low fees. Honestly, the entire market is been suffering huge fees which include Bitcoin as well. I've been looking for another option but it was hopeless, we can't any other than just wait to calm down.  I think we are urged to hold because of this situation...
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May 08, 2023, 03:46:14 PM
My last transaction was 1.5 ETH. I had to cancel. I will not understand at all that there is Buterin with gas to joke like that. Maybe the time has come to completely abandon the first-level blockchain.
newbie
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May 08, 2023, 12:50:15 PM

And also hope to see the lunch of your project very soon and how you develop your one chain that could possibly push down gas fees against what is mostly achievable with layer 2 networks.

Thanks for your wishes. I think my solution would be a bit different because we are somewhat centralized and anchored in real assets so the dynamics are a bit different.

In most cases I would say that, if the org behind the chain could be profitable besides the token, the org should cover the fees of the TX (as in permissioned network or downright having their wallet pay it). For cases when full decentralization is not possible or required.

I plan to do just that, have a minimal tax for TX that goes to a common pool/fund that will pay up the cost of providing the chain (hardware, network, talent). For me is more valuable to offer a relatively free chain so people can learn, and play around so they can stay, bring their assets, and develop in it.

Developing a real business, you don't get to be established as a company in a "Testnet Estate", you go right in to the real deal. As @Bolivar_Tony said, even glitches and high fees on testnets can scare potential users. Days ago I was being charged ~$150 gas for minting a BSC test token in some ILO platform. $150 is probably reasonable in ETH, but BSC?

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May 07, 2023, 07:02:34 PM
So I have to pay $9 ETH to transfer 70 USDT I just received, out of my wallet? And worse, transferring any amount of ETH will set you back $3 in gas fees.
It looks like the tables have turned, if we look at the current spam on Bitcoin blockchain. That's what Ethereum network has been dealing with since the Bull run of 2017-2018 and the problem has refused to vanish to this date

I think something needs to be done about the Ordinals or those so called BRC20 before things go awful on the oldest and most decentralized blockchain network..
sr. member
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May 07, 2023, 06:43:25 PM
I went to Binancechain at that time to buy a few tokens after finding the gas fee on Ethereum to be abnormal but I was able to compare the gas fees that we charged when doing transactions using Metamask. I assume that the gas we need is considerably more when we use a third-party wallet because we will need a higher gas price when using Metamask than when using the online wallet offered by the Ethereum platform. We can also decide how much gas we'll need or when the transaction will be void.
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May 07, 2023, 05:25:21 PM
So I have to pay $9 ETH to transfer 70 USDT I just received, out of my wallet? And worse, transferring any amount of ETH will set you back $3 in gas fees.

I've just converted most of my ETH to BTC, and have $0.5 left in metamask. It claims to have an "advanced gas control" when you hit Send, but it's not showing me that.

Is there a way for me to lower the gas fees from metamask, or otherwise import the wallet into some other software?
The thing is really frustrating just today Gas in Ethereum Goerli testnet exceeded 4000 gwei ($600) probably due to Linea testnet. if you imagine this to a mainnet then you start wonder when or how will the adoption happen
 
hero member
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May 07, 2023, 04:05:58 PM

Great to read this reply from you and of course I did not totally misunderstood you point in the previous comments and even at that I am glad to see that my comment drive you down to this reply where you covered a wide rang of areas including the limitation with L2 network Layer which were supposed to provide the best alternatives.

And also hope to see the lunch of your project very soon and how you develop your one chain that could possibly push down gas fees against what is mostly achievable with layer 2 networks.
newbie
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May 07, 2023, 03:36:45 PM
I was also under the impression that PoS merge addressed the fees but is actually a later update for sharding what is going to improve that. ETH changed a lot in the 6 months since I reviewed it for feasibility for my project.

There is a big economy build around L2s and that is not going anywhere either. Just for small money transfer ETH is overkill. The community have shared plenty of good tips, but probably the easiest is to just hold until you really need it so it pays the transfer itself with valuation.

Is all about perspective. $10 fee might be a lot transferring $70, but a $70 fee is nothing transferring thousands, millions. People were paying hundreds in just fees to mint NFTs back in the original craze.
So what point it is then to keep holding a coin with such high networks problems?

Oh don't misunderstand me I'm not defending Ether, neither I'm going to endorse any alternative, I don't hold anything and a $50 is not too little from my POV, is higher than just doing an overseas SWIFT transfer + Taxes + bank tax. Even if the L2s were the real solution, it goes back to your question. Then what's the point of holding ETH?

I'm probably biased because I'm developing an idea, but seems like the pragmatic answer is: the EVM and ecosystem. I wish, but I'll not be using ETH due to, precisely, the fees and congestion. Even the fees and constrains of an L2 are too limiting for what I want to so, so I'll be doing a sidechain, and that will eventually need a bridge, and then we are back to step 1: you'll need to hold ETH and likely the token of wherever you want to bridge.

And free market kinda doesn't apply completely here, by having more L2 fees should go down, but since those are intrinsic to the L2 tech, then having more L2s will only make it harder to lower fees since there will be more pressure to keep the L1 fees as they are. 

ETH fees may lower someday, but it will not go that down as to nuke the L2 ecosystem, not happening.
newbie
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May 07, 2023, 10:48:41 AM
the only way it goes lower is wait for a day where transaction is low.
what acitivity push eth gas high anyway? market is bearish
sr. member
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May 07, 2023, 10:42:38 AM
You're basically sacrificing decentralization for low fees and faster transaction speeds. Rising gas fees on the ETH Blockchain, tells us that people are using it more frequently
Expect doing that,  i don’t aware of any method that help to make eth fee low along with smooth transaction. If anyone hesitate to sacrifice, then giving high fee is only an option. I agree that Rising fee means more traffic, more user using ether but i guess most of them have ability enough to afford such fee but alas! op isn’t in their list and so he is complaining.

ETH developers will soon roll out a series of network upgrades aimed to improve on-chain scalability. Once that happens, high gas fees will only become history. As long as ETH remains decentralized, nothing else matters
agreed. decentralized is only matter, otherwise Ether developers have been trying for many years but still no significant change has been seen durning transaction fees but i'm also optimistic about ether network upgrade what will let people transaction with low fee
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May 07, 2023, 09:24:21 AM
the best way to avoid high gas fees on the ETH network is to wait for transactions on the ETH network to decrease, if transactions on the ETH network are still high there is no way to avoid high gas fees. arbitrum and SUI are making retroactive airdrops even more desirable and many people britge and swap using ETH. this is not a joke, if you are an airdropper with small capital you should avoid the ETH network. Yesterday I tried some of the features on metamask and did britge on the zk network hoping to qualify for the airdrop and from $100 ETH I only had around $70 ETH left.
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May 06, 2023, 02:55:50 PM
ETH gass fee is very high. It is very difficult to pay that’s fees for traders and holders. For high gass fee eth network people reduce trajection.  I think it is very helpful for eth goodwell. Many prople use eth network but the now use BSC, Polygon or another Network. I couldn’t sell some  erc-20 token for high gass fee. I think the team members of this project should control this gass fees. Otherwise people will avoid eth.
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