Topic: ETH is a Fail and why ETC will fail as well. - page 2. (Read 1665 times)
i hope that you are right, i dont want any potential threats to bitcoin to be honest and even though i hold some etc it wouldnt be a problem as if it started falling i would sell
of course it does not take a lot of money for people to abandon their principles for short term gain. When i argued against hardfork on reddit early days of hack, some ETH co-founder nearly took my head off, he was almost salivating at the mouth saying basically anyone against hardfork was practically evil. Wierd experience. Especially when most of those reasonable arguments have now come true.
I and many others saw a chance for ETC when the ETH community stood up and said no, that immutability was core. But it is apparent that those from the original ETH scam hold far too much free ETC and have no goal other than to profit off of ETC. Those holders outnumber the true CypherPunks to an extent that they will take short sighted profits over the long term benefits that the ETC chain could have achieved. They laugh and dump on the Idealistic ETC holders and think in their small minded heads that they are winning when they are actually destroying the only chance the ETH platform ever had of becoming the vision of it's original goal (besides making it's insiders stinking rich with the premine).
It is no surprise that the vast majority of original eth holders are nothing more than fools who were trying for a quick money grab and have no ideals as the last few years that is all we have seen in practically the entire alt coin scene. I don't know but I believe that the DAO winner is ideologically adverse to the original ETH scam and call on him or her to take the reins of the chain they have dominated and take the responsibility of creating a roadmap for it's future. I also call on the so called "white hat hackers" to publicly allocate the funds in their possession to the development of the original chain or destroy those coins. Any other action is either creating another bailout which is not what this scene is about or theft which makes them on par with the original Dao winner (according to their own logic).
For those that have no clue.
Disclaimer: I hold 1 ETC (mined during fork) and zero ETH.
If you support the ETC criminal coin their you condone nothing more than thievery. Spoetniktards of your ilk make myself, and all right minded decent people, physically sick think that you dare to call yourself a member of the human race. It is no surprise that the vast majority of original eth holders are nothing more than fools who were trying for a quick money grab and have no ideals as the last few years that is all we have seen in practically the entire alt coin scene. I don't know but I believe that the DAO winner is ideologically adverse to the original ETH scam and call on him or her to take the reins of the chain they have dominated and take the responsibility of creating a roadmap for it's future. I also call on the so called "white hat hackers" to publicly allocate the funds in their possession to the development of the original chain or destroy those coins. Any other action is either creating another bailout which is not what this scene is about or theft which makes them on par with the original Dao winner (according to their own logic).
For those that have no clue.
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A cypherpunk is any activist advocating widespread use of strong cryptography and privacy-enhancing technologies as a route to social and political change. Originally communicating through the Cypherpunks electronic mailing list, informal groups aimed to achieve privacy and security through proactive use of cryptography. Cypherpunks have been engaged in an active movement since the late 1980s.
Disclaimer: I hold 1 ETC (mined during fork) and zero ETH.
It depends on the community support. If many investors and the community support either of the coins, both of them will survive.
Word. That's true of all of crypto. Look at doge and how it's hung on this long, when it should have been dead at birth. Its community is strong and passionate (if a little nutty). Don't know about this whole eth/etc debacle. It's like one shit bacterium divided in two. Someone pass the 70% ethyl alcohol. 
It is no surprise that the vast majority of original eth holders are nothing more than fools who were trying for a quick money grab and have no ideals as the last few years that is all we have seen in practically the entire alt coin scene.
this is not true for all ETH holder. i am a ETH holder - a really small fish - and i did not sell all. i just sold some ETH to have the rest for free. and i still believe in the possibility of ETH. or in the possibility of an advanced blockchain compared to bitcoin.
I believe you and there are many more like you but unfortunately that is not indicative of the majority of holders.
It is no surprise that the vast majority of original eth holders are nothing more than fools who were trying for a quick money grab and have no ideals as the last few years that is all we have seen in practically the entire alt coin scene.
this is not true for all ETH holder. i am a ETH holder - a really small fish - and i did not sell all. i just sold some ETH to have the rest for free. and i still believe in the possibility of ETH. or in the possibility of an advanced blockchain compared to bitcoin.
ETC is an answer towards a problem: The fact that ETH rolled back to rescue developers invested deeply into a total clusterfuck called DAO.
The only people supporting the amateur madness that ETH is is ETH bagholders themselves. If Ethereum rises, it should do so in its ETC iteration.
The only people supporting the amateur madness that ETH is is ETH bagholders themselves. If Ethereum rises, it should do so in its ETC iteration.
ETC moving from central banker fools to strong hands. ETH moving from strong hands to those fools and their minions.
I don't know if ETC has a future as an immutable computer for smart contract experiments. I am hoping some groups such as IOHK step up and make it so. Charles indicated they could take ETC a different direction from ETH's planned Casper debacle.
Hopefully the back dealings are being done now to bring professional groups into ETC and get the hard work done.
Bogging themselves down by trying to serve two masters may or may not be wise. I am not close enough to it to comment meaningfully.
I figure what ever fucked up shit contracts they put on ETH, someone else will clone, improve, and put on ETC. It is all open-source.
I don't know if ETC has a future as an immutable computer for smart contract experiments. I am hoping some groups such as IOHK step up and make it so. Charles indicated they could take ETC a different direction from ETH's planned Casper debacle.
Hopefully the back dealings are being done now to bring professional groups into ETC and get the hard work done.
Bogging themselves down by trying to serve two masters may or may not be wise. I am not close enough to it to comment meaningfully.
I figure what ever fucked up shit contracts they put on ETH, someone else will clone, improve, and put on ETC. It is all open-source.
It depends on the community support. If many investors and the community support either of the coins, both of them will survive.
I and many others saw a chance for ETC when the ETH community stood up and said no, that immutability was core. But it is apparent that those from the original ETH scam hold far too much free ETC and have no goal other than to profit off of ETC. Those holders outnumber the true CypherPunks to an extent that they will take short sighted profits over the long term benefits that the ETC chain could have achieved. They laugh and dump on the Idealistic ETC holders and think in their small minded heads that they are winning when they are actually destroying the only chance the ETH platform ever had of becoming the vision of it's original goal (besides making it's insiders stinking rich with the premine).
It is no surprise that the vast majority of original eth holders are nothing more than fools who were trying for a quick money grab and have no ideals as the last few years that is all we have seen in practically the entire alt coin scene. I don't know but I believe that the DAO winner is ideologically adverse to the original ETH scam and call on him or her to take the reins of the chain they have dominated and take the responsibility of creating a roadmap for it's future. I also call on the so called "white hat hackers" to publicly allocate the funds in their possession to the development of the original chain or destroy those coins. Any other action is either creating another bailout which is not what this scene is about or theft which makes them on par with the original Dao winner (according to their own logic).
For those that have no clue.
Disclaimer: I hold 1 ETC (mined during fork) and zero ETH.
It is no surprise that the vast majority of original eth holders are nothing more than fools who were trying for a quick money grab and have no ideals as the last few years that is all we have seen in practically the entire alt coin scene. I don't know but I believe that the DAO winner is ideologically adverse to the original ETH scam and call on him or her to take the reins of the chain they have dominated and take the responsibility of creating a roadmap for it's future. I also call on the so called "white hat hackers" to publicly allocate the funds in their possession to the development of the original chain or destroy those coins. Any other action is either creating another bailout which is not what this scene is about or theft which makes them on par with the original Dao winner (according to their own logic).
For those that have no clue.
Quote
A cypherpunk is any activist advocating widespread use of strong cryptography and privacy-enhancing technologies as a route to social and political change. Originally communicating through the Cypherpunks electronic mailing list, informal groups aimed to achieve privacy and security through proactive use of cryptography. Cypherpunks have been engaged in an active movement since the late 1980s.
Disclaimer: I hold 1 ETC (mined during fork) and zero ETH.
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